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« on: October 05, 2008, 12:29:19 PM »

Yes. I'm surprised fundies haven't gone crazy over this movie.
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« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2008, 01:50:12 PM »

That might just be the dumbest thing you've ever posted BRTD.
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« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2008, 05:31:25 PM »

That might just be the dumbest thing you've ever posted BRTD.

Every time I think he can't post anything any dumber he goes and surprises me like this.
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« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2008, 08:38:55 PM »

That might just be the dumbest thing you've ever posted BRTD.

From you I'll take that as a compliment.

Seriously people stop and think what the whole message of this movie is.
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« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2008, 08:47:09 PM »

I can hear it now, from Americas' pulpits, "Get the Gimp".
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« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2008, 09:33:59 PM »

That might just be the dumbest thing you've ever posted BRTD.

Seriously people stop and think what the whole message of this movie is.


If I remember the movie correctly, it centered around a case that Ving Rhames was trying to retrieve. It implied that the case held his soul. It's been a while since I've seen it, but even with a spiritual undertone, I don't see how it's a "pro-christian propaganda" movie.
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« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2008, 09:47:58 PM »

I remember when I was a kid my grandma went to see this in the theater not realizing it was a "dirty" movie. She was really offended at all the language. Lol.
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« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2008, 09:48:56 PM »

I remember when I was a kid my grandma went to see this in the theater not realizing it was a "dirty" movie. She was really offended at all the language. Lol.

LOL. I wish I could have been a fly on the wall!
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« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2008, 12:01:12 PM »

Yes. I'm surprised fundies haven't gone crazy over this movie.

No it is not.

Plus, even if it was -- there is buttsex in it, BRTD.  No fundie would go near it.
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« Reply #9 on: October 06, 2008, 12:02:38 PM »

I can hear it now, from Americas' pulpits, "Get the Gimp".

COMEDY GOLDMINE FOR SURE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ROFLMAO and you owe me a new keyboard.  Coffee everywhere...
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« Reply #10 on: October 06, 2008, 03:00:03 PM »

please make the case that it is, BRTD.
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« Reply #11 on: October 06, 2008, 03:07:01 PM »
« Edited: October 06, 2008, 03:09:14 PM by Alcon »

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« Reply #12 on: October 06, 2008, 03:07:23 PM »


The movie implies that Vince and Jules were saved and given a second chance by God. Jules takes it as a sign to turn his life around and redeem himself like what he does at the diner. Vince doesn't, and then he pays the penalty for it. Butch's story also has a theme of redemption of forgiveness.
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« Reply #13 on: October 06, 2008, 04:45:06 PM »


The movie implies that Vince and Jules were saved and given a second chance by God. Jules takes it as a sign to turn his life around and redeem himself like what he does at the diner. Vince doesn't, and then he pays the penalty for it. Butch's story also has a theme of redemption of forgiveness.

It also had this scene. If you believe this was a Christian propaganda piece then you're reading way too much into it. Sure, you might get a bit of a religious message out of it, but the message isn't blatant enough to be considered propaganda.
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« Reply #14 on: October 06, 2008, 04:59:58 PM »


The movie implies that Vince and Jules were saved and given a second chance by God. Jules takes it as a sign to turn his life around and redeem himself like what he does at the diner. Vince doesn't, and then he pays the penalty for it. Butch's story also has a theme of redemption of forgiveness.

It also had this scene. If you believe this was a Christian propaganda piece then you're reading way too much into it. Sure, you might get a bit of a religious message out of it, but the message isn't blatant enough to be considered propaganda.

How is that scene related to religion in any way?
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« Reply #15 on: October 06, 2008, 08:52:30 PM »


The movie implies that Vince and Jules were saved and given a second chance by God. Jules takes it as a sign to turn his life around and redeem himself like what he does at the diner. Vince doesn't, and then he pays the penalty for it. Butch's story also has a theme of redemption of forgiveness.

It also had this scene. If you believe this was a Christian propaganda piece then you're reading way too much into it. Sure, you might get a bit of a religious message out of it, but the message isn't blatant enough to be considered propaganda.

How is that scene related to religion in any way?

That's my point, it isn't. It's completely unrelated to religion. If this really was a Christian propaganda piece as you claim then why would such an unrelated scene exist in it?
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« Reply #16 on: October 06, 2008, 11:05:19 PM »

Propaganda implies somebody intentionally trying to influence others, who do you think was creating this propaganda?  Tarentino?  Roger Avary?  Propaganda by accident isn't, by definition, propaganda.
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« Reply #17 on: October 07, 2008, 01:13:36 AM »

Propaganda implies somebody intentionally trying to influence others, who do you think was creating this propaganda?  Tarentino?  Roger Avary?  Propaganda by accident isn't, by definition, propaganda.

Tell that to Gully, Gustaf and anyone else accusing 300 of being fascist propaganda.
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« Reply #18 on: October 07, 2008, 01:21:19 AM »

Propaganda implies somebody intentionally trying to influence others, who do you think was creating this propaganda?  Tarentino?  Roger Avary?  Propaganda by accident isn't, by definition, propaganda.

Tell that to Gully, Gustaf and anyone else accusing 300 of being fascist propaganda.
Ok, I will next time it comes up.
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« Reply #19 on: October 07, 2008, 05:55:36 AM »

I agree that redemption is a theme of Pulp Fiction; I disagree that this is enough to qualify it as "a pro-Christian propoganda piece".
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« Reply #20 on: October 08, 2008, 01:18:23 AM »

I agree that redemption is a theme of Pulp Fiction; I disagree that this is enough to qualify it as "a pro-Christian propoganda piece".

The true theme of Pulp Fiction is...

"Only the truest of friends will safeguard your watch for future generations by keeping it in his ass."
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« Reply #21 on: December 08, 2008, 07:48:37 AM »

I actually understand where BRTD is coming from here. The movie clearly carries a pro-Christian or at least pro-religious message.

Calling it "pro-Christian propaganda" is over the top, but that's BRTD for you. I wonder if Tarantino is a believer... he never struck me as one, honestly.
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« Reply #22 on: December 08, 2008, 09:01:00 AM »

Next time I see it I'll be on the look out for this. The whole Vince and Jules choosing different paths is definitely an overarching theme of the story, however to call it explicitly Christian may be overreaching.
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« Reply #23 on: December 26, 2008, 01:47:55 AM »
« Edited: December 26, 2008, 01:50:24 AM by The Tension Between Stillness and Motion »

Interesting how over 30% agree with "the dumbest thing I've ever posted"...

Next time I see it I'll be on the look out for this. The whole Vince and Jules choosing different paths is definitely an overarching theme of the story, however to call it explicitly Christian may be overreaching.

Dude, Jules quotes the Bible and then tells the robbers that he will spare them and let them live (and he even gives them all of his money, basically "turning the other cheek") as his first act of redemption. That sounds pretty explicitly Christian to me.
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« Reply #24 on: December 26, 2008, 07:54:33 AM »

But for it to be a propaganda piece instead of simply borrowing for a biblical theme or two in its mayem, it would have to make you want to be a Christian.

The movie doesn't do that.

The Matrix movies have extreme biblical undertones, but they're not propaganda for Christianity.

Hell, Steven Colbert's Christmas Special has lots of Biblical and Judaic undertones as well.
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