Dirty South Initiative Proposals and Debate

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

Hey all,

I felt like we needed to move the discussion of the initiatives from the RPP thread to a thread more accessible to all the citizens of the Dirty South. Feel free to propose and debate anything on your minds for inclusion on the October ballot. I've currently proposed to relocate the capital of the Dirty South to Charleston, South Carolina and to replace the flag with a new design. I realize that it isn't cheap to relocate, but I feel like the city of Charleston represents everything the Dirty South stands for. We've had a rich history of standing up for region's rights, and Charleston was the center of the fight for state's rights in the 1800's. Also, the move is one of symbolism. This region has gone from nothing to something in a short period of time. We've gone from the laughing stock of Atlasia to one of the largest and most active. I'm proud of the team that has worked with me to make this all happen. Moving the capital to Charleston would represent the region coming full circle. We will finally have a completely new face in a completely new city with a history of standing up for things they hold dear.

The Flag change is also up for debate about first, whether we actually want to do it, and second, what it would look like. My proposal is in my signature and looks like the South Carolina flag. I'm all for having the Palmetto tree and crescent moon, but whether the background is blue or not is less important. Please consider these and propose whatever else you wish. This thread will run until the elections this month.

Dirty South Flag Act  of 2008

1. Effective immediately following the passage of this law by vote of the region's citizens, the flag of the Dirty South will change from the current generic flag to a design [consisting of a navy background with the Palmetto tree and crescent moon in the center].


Dirty South Capitol Relocation Act

1. Effective immediately following the passage of this law by the votes of the region's citizens, the capitol city of the Dirty South will be relocated from Memphis, Tennessee to Charleston, South Carolina, and the funds for building a Governor's Plantation will be up for debate.

** Things in brackets are up for debate.

[Associate Justice PiT]

     Yay! We have a regional thread now!

[Bacon King]

I agree that we have rebounded as a region and that should be represented by a new flag.

To move the entire capital is more than just symbolism though, and although I love Charleston I believe the capital is fine where it is. A move would be costly (and we'd be abandoning the current, billion dollar capitol complex) and as I stated in the other thread a hurricane hitting the South Carolina coast would leave the government effectively decapitated. Memphis is also at a more central location within the region and would thus be more accessible to the people of the region.

To represent the newly rejuvenated "Dirty South" we could also create a new motto or regional seal (if anyone's good with photoshop).

Also, Duke, I believe you mentioned something about the region's finances in the RPP thread. If it's alright with you I'd like to try my hand at creating a new budget. No guarantees but I think I could do it.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

Also, Duke, I believe you mentioned something about the region's finances in the RPP thread. If it's alright with you I'd like to try my hand at creating a new budget. No guarantees but I think I could do it.

Go ahead.

[DownWithTheLeft]

Anyone think that possibly appointing a CEO of the region would be a good idea?  That way finances could become somewhat of an issue.

Also, I believe there are some more ideas from the convention that have not been voted on.  Especially this one that I will post here.

Two Names are Better than One Act

1.) The Southeast region shall henceforth recognize "Dirty South" as an accepted name for the region in all official and unofficial business
2.) The name "Southeast" will continue to be permissible

[Bacon King]

You mean a CFO or something? The Governor is already the chief executive.

[Historia Crux]

You mean a CFO or something? The Governor is already the chief executive.

maybe make a Treasurer or something on those lines that he was saying, I do like that but it might not be enough.

[Historia Crux]

To get back to the flag design, here is a "Flags of the Confederacy" website, it could help us come up with a general design for a new flag.

http://www.confederateflags.org/

[Bacon King]

How about this one?

[DownWithTheLeft]

How about this one?

Looks too much like Pakistan

[Associate Justice PiT]

How about this one?

Looks too much like Pakistan

     Rather plain as well. If we're going to have a flag that looks like a real one, how about one like this?:

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

How about this one?

We need the Palmetto tree in it. Nothing is more southern that the palmetto tree. Plus, that looks like a Muslim flag instead of a southern flag.

To get back to the flag design, here is a "Flags of the Confederacy" website, it could help us come up with a general design for a new flag.

http://www.confederateflags.org/

As much as I love the confederate flag, I'm afraid it will offend too many people is we bring it back as our regional flag.

[Historia Crux]

How about this one?

We need the Palmetto tree in it. Nothing is more southern that the palmetto tree. Plus, that looks like a Muslim flag instead of a southern flag.

To get back to the flag design, here is a "Flags of the Confederacy" website, it could help us come up with a general design for a new flag.

http://www.confederateflags.org/

As much as I love the confederate flag, I'm afraid it will offend too many people is we bring it back as our regional flag.

I wasn't meaning to bring back the CSA flag but to use it as a possible base and also on the website there is some good state flags that could be used as jumping off points but here's a flag for the South Carolina Sovereignty Flag.

[Bacon King]

Like it. We don't want it too similar to the SC flag because then people would get them confused.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

If you flip the crescent moon, it would look pretty good. Let me see if I can make some mockups on Photoshop and see what ya'll think..

[Bacon King]

Something I just noticed. There have been no regional laws added to the wiki since February of 2007. Could someone with access please put them on there? For convenience I'll go ahead and link to everything that's been passed since then in this thread.

[Bacon King]

Initiatives 156-161. 157 to 161 pass.
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=56386.0

Initiatives 162-164. (All three amendments).  162 and 163 pass.
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=62400.0
Also, aww, the first election I ran.

Initiatives 165-166. Both pass.
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=63935.0

Initiatives 167-168. Both pass.
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=65317.0

Initiatives 169-170. The former passes the latter ties.
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=72914.0

170 is revoted, fails.
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=74436.0

171-177. 171 and 176 pass.
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=84053.0

Who has access to the Atlas wiki? I know Brandon does, I'll send him a message.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

How does one get access to the region Wiki page?

[Associate Justice PiT]

How does one get access to the region Wiki page?

     Get access to the Atlasia Wiki. That's how.

[Bacon King]

bump. can anyone with wiki access add those?

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

Wow. I just found the Wiki site and someone really needs to update my page. It says I just got appointed governor and I was the only active member of the National Conservative Party, led by kingofthebenchpress.

[DownWithTheLeft]

bump. can anyone with wiki access add those?

I have the access, but I suck at adding things cause of format.  I pass the job (what a surprise ) to PiT

[Associate Justice PiT]

     There, I updated Duke's wiki page.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

Did you add my election results history?

[Associate Justice PiT]

     I created the page for the August election results. As of now, it only has the results. If you want me to add some sort of commentary, please let me know.