Are Islam, Judaism, and Christianity sects of the same religion?

[memphis]

Seems that way to me.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

No, the other ones deny our Savior.

[dead0man]

No.

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Shia is a "sect" of Islam, Islam is not a "sect" of Judiasm (or some 4th, undefined thing).  They are related, nobody is going to deny that, but they are not "sect"s.

[memphis]

No.

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Shia is a "sect" of Islam, Islam is not a "sect" of Judiasm (or some 4th, undefined thing).  They are related, nobody is going to deny that, but they are not "sect"s.

You don't think they have common beliefs? At their core, they are all about unity under one God. I suppose the obviousl reply is to harp on "united" but I'd hardly consider Shi'a ans Sunni (or for that matter Protestant and Eastern Orthodox) united.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

al-Zaraqawi called one of his groups the Arabic term for Monotheism and Jihad, the "Monotheism" being thrown in a slight to Christians since he (and most Muslims) view the Trinity as a polytheistic abomination.

[dead0man]

No.

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Shia is a "sect" of Islam, Islam is not a "sect" of Judiasm (or some 4th, undefined thing).  They are related, nobody is going to deny that, but they are not "sect"s.

You don't think they have common beliefs? At their core, they are all about unity under one God. I suppose the obviousl reply is to harp on "united" but I'd hardly consider Shi'a ans Sunni (or for that matter Protestant and Eastern Orthodox) united.

What's the larger group called that they are all a part of?  Both Catholics and Baptists refer to themselves as Christians, thus Catholics and Baptists are sects of Christianity.

[phk]

Islam as described by Renan, "an edition of Judaism accommodated to Arab minds". Food for thought.

[memphis]

al-Zaraqawi called one of his groups the Arabic term for Monotheism and Jihad, the "Monotheism" being thrown in a slight to Christians since he (and most Muslims) view the Trinity as a polytheistic abomination.

Zaraqawi is the speaker for all Islam? I'm sure I could find some similar militant statement from the reformation.  Darn Papists

[John Dibble]

No. While Christianity has its roots in Judaism and Islam it's roots in Judaism and Christianity, they are not sects of the same religion. Very important core beliefs are different.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

No; Judaism came first, Christianity was originally a Jewish sect before breaking away, and Islam just formed later.

[© tweed]

this question just begs for a debate in semantics

[Tetro Kornbluth]

this question just begs for a debate in semantics

[Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home.]

No. While Christianity has its roots in Judaism and Islam it's roots in Judaism and Christianity, they are not sects of the same religion. Very important core beliefs are different.

actually, even in the bible, Christianity was considered a "sect" of Judaism.

[Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home.]

Christianity was originally a Jewish sect before breaking away

"before breaking away"?  when did that happen?  Jews simply didn't believe Jesus was the Messiah, Christians did.  There was no formal breaking away (unless you want to considered  the curtain of the temple being torn in two at the moment of Christ's death).

[John Dibble]

No. While Christianity has its roots in Judaism and Islam it's roots in Judaism and Christianity, they are not sects of the same religion. Very important core beliefs are different.

actually, even in the bible, Christianity was considered a "sect" of Judaism.

The Bible can consider Christianity what it wishes - I consider them different enough to be different religions.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

What's the larger group called that they are all a part of?  Both Catholics and Baptists refer to themselves as Christians, thus Catholics and Baptists are sects of Christianity.

Collectively Judaism, Christianity, Islam are the three Abrahamic religions that lay claim to the Abrahamic Covenant.  If you insist on a one word name, Abrahamism would do, tho I'm not aware of that term being actually used.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

Christianity was originally a Jewish sect before breaking away

"before breaking away"?  when did that happen?  Jews simply didn't believe Jesus was the Messiah, Christians did.  There was no formal breaking away (unless you want to considered  the curtain of the temple being torn in two at the moment of Christ's death).

Read The Reluctant Parting by Julie Galambush to see what I mean.

[Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home.]

Christianity was originally a Jewish sect before breaking away

"before breaking away"?  when did that happen?  Jews simply didn't believe Jesus was the Messiah, Christians did.  There was no formal breaking away (unless you want to considered  the curtain of the temple being torn in two at the moment of Christ's death).

Read The Reluctant Parting by Julie Galambush to see what I mean.

no thanks, but I would be willing to entertain a summary from you

[Stranger in a strange land]

they've evolved into entirely different religious traditions, even if many of the core beliefs are the same, so I'll have to say no.

[12th Doctor]

In roughly the same way that French, Italian and Spanish are the same language.  Sure, if you take the really broad view of things, you could say it.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

Christianity was originally a Jewish sect before breaking away

"before breaking away"?  when did that happen?  Jews simply didn't believe Jesus was the Messiah, Christians did.  There was no formal breaking away (unless you want to considered  the curtain of the temple being torn in two at the moment of Christ's death).

Read The Reluctant Parting by Julie Galambush to see what I mean.

no thanks, but I would be willing to entertain a summary from you

Christianity originally started out as nothing more than a sect of Judaism, like Orthodox, Reform, Conservative, etc.  Over time, the issue of whether Gentiles had to become Jewish to become Christian, among other things, drove Christianity to become its own faith.  I highly advise you to read it, as it was written by a former Baptist minister, and now a member of my synagogue.

[memphis]

In roughly the same way that French, Italian and Spanish are the same language.  Sure, if you take the really broad view of things, you could say it.

They're all much closer than the different Chinese languages.

[Associate Justice PiT]

In roughly the same way that French, Italian and Spanish are the same language.  Sure, if you take the really broad view of things, you could say it.

They're all much closer than the different Chinese languages.

     I don't know about you, but where I live, almost nobody would allege that Mandarin & Cantonese are the same language.

[12th Doctor]

In roughly the same way that French, Italian and Spanish are the same language.  Sure, if you take the really broad view of things, you could say it.

They're all much closer than the different Chinese languages.

Sure.  I don't really know any educated person who still calls them the Chinese Languages "dialects".

Other than having a common writing system (which means nothing) and common a ancestor, they share almost nothing in common, at least in terms of their vocabularies.  The grammars are similar and they are all tonal.  That's about it.

[The Mikado]

Christianity was originally a Jewish sect before breaking away

"before breaking away"?  when did that happen?  Jews simply didn't believe Jesus was the Messiah, Christians did.  There was no formal breaking away (unless you want to considered  the curtain of the temple being torn in two at the moment of Christ's death).

Isn't the fundamental dividing line (besides belief/disbelief in Jesus as Messiah) that Christians don't follow the Mosaic Law while Jews continue to do so?  The immense differences in doctrine resulting from that split make it hard for me to consider them one religion.  Maybe in the time of the Apostles, but not after the destruction of the Second Temple, and certainly not today.