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« on: October 11, 2008, 08:29:24 am »
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This thread is for all tracking polls not named Gallup or Rasmussen.

Hotline:
http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=82344.0

DailyKos:
http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=82809.0

Battleground:
http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=83590.0

Zogby:
http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=84780.0
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« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2008, 08:57:07 am »
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« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2008, 09:10:13 am »
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Poor idea

agreed

if people want to follow Battleground and Zogby and DailyKos trackers nobody can stop them, but, they can find the thread without a sticky just fine
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« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2008, 10:33:08 am »
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Maybe links to all the other, unstickied, tracker threads in this stickied thread? That way it'd make sense.
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« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2008, 11:35:31 am »
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Diageo/Hotline: Saturday, October 11

Obama: 50 (+2)
McCain: 40 (-1)
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« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2008, 11:38:50 am »
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Maybe links to all the other, unstickied, tracker threads in this stickied thread? That way it'd make sense.

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« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2008, 11:40:17 am »
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Seems like Diageo, Rasmussen and Gallup had a bad sample in the last days and now they are settling at 7-8% again.

Zogby is a bit fake, just like Dailykos/R2000 because Zogby uses 38% DEM, 36% GOP and 26% IND in their daily sample, whereas R2000 shows 35%DEM, 30% IND, 26%GOP and 9% "Others".
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« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2008, 01:31:59 pm »
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« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2008, 02:11:45 pm »
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I'll steal TPM's posts every day on the subject:

Gallup: Obama 51%, McCain 42%, with a 2% margin of error, compared to a 51%-41% Obama lead yesterday.

Rasmussen: Obama 52%, McCain 45%, with a 2% margin of error, compared to a 50%-45% Obama lead from yesterday.

Hotline/Diageo: Obama 50%, McCain 40%, with a 3.4% margin of error, compared to a 48%-41% Obama lead yesterday.

Research 2000: Obama 52%, McCain 40%, with a 3% margin of error, unchanged from yesterday.

Zogby: Obama 48%, McCain 44%, with a 2.9% margin of error, compared to a 48%-43% Obama lead yesterday.
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« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2008, 12:16:31 am »
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Zogby/Reuters/C-SPAN - Sunday, October 12:

Obama: 48.9 (+1.3)
McCain: 42.8 (-1.0)
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« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2008, 07:40:42 am »
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R2000/DailyKos - Sunday, October 12:

Obama: 53 (+1)
McCain: 40 (nc)
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« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2008, 09:36:23 am »
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Hotline - Sunday October 12:

Obama: 49%
McCain: 41%
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« Reply #12 on: October 12, 2008, 01:58:19 pm »
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Sorry just woke up.

Gallup: Obama 50%, McCain 43%, with a 2% margin of error, compared to a 51%-42% Obama lead yesterday.

Rasmussen: Obama 51%, McCain 45%, with a 2% margin of error, compared to a 52%-45% Obama lead from yesterday.

Hotline/Diageo: Obama 49%, McCain 41%, with a 3.4% margin of error, compared to a 50%-40% Obama lead yesterday.

Research 2000: Obama 53%, McCain 40%, with a 3% margin of error, compared to a 52%-40% Obama lead from yesterday.

Zogby: Obama 49%, McCain 43%, with a 2.9% margin of error, compared to a 48%-44% Obama lead yesterday.
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« Reply #13 on: October 12, 2008, 09:32:11 pm »
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Apparently, Drudge is reporting that tomorrow's Zogby will be Obama 48%, McCain 44%.  For what that's worth.
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« Reply #14 on: October 12, 2008, 09:34:53 pm »
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Apparently, Drudge is reporting that tomorrow's Zogby will be Obama 48%, McCain 44%.  For what that's worth.

Does anybody else find it quite humorous that Drudge's new favorite poll is Zogby?

Isn't this the same poster the lunatic fringe on the right lambasted for the last 4 years for predicting Kerry would win the 2004 election by a wide margin?

Desperation is an ugly thing.
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« Reply #15 on: October 12, 2008, 09:44:48 pm »
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Apparently, Drudge is reporting that tomorrow's Zogby will be Obama 48%, McCain 44%.  For what that's worth.

Does anybody else find it quite humorous that Drudge's new favorite poll is Zogby?

Isn't this the same poster the lunatic fringe on the right lambasted for the last 4 years for predicting Kerry would win the 2004 election by a wide margin?

Desperation is an ugly thing.

Your condescension and smugness is an ugly thing.
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« Reply #16 on: October 12, 2008, 09:46:09 pm »
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You know than you can be polite with other people?
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« Reply #17 on: October 12, 2008, 09:52:08 pm »
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Sorry just woke up.

Gallup: Obama 50%, McCain 43%, with a 2% margin of error, compared to a 51%-42% Obama lead yesterday.

Rasmussen: Obama 51%, McCain 45%, with a 2% margin of error, compared to a 52%-45% Obama lead from yesterday.

Hotline/Diageo: Obama 49%, McCain 41%, with a 3.4% margin of error, compared to a 50%-40% Obama lead yesterday.

Research 2000: Obama 53%, McCain 40%, with a 3% margin of error, compared to a 52%-40% Obama lead from yesterday.

Zogby: Obama 49%, McCain 43%, with a 2.9% margin of error, compared to a 48%-44% Obama lead yesterday.


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« Reply #18 on: October 12, 2008, 09:53:19 pm »
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Um, R2000 is not Zogby.   R2000 is a respectable firm with Democratic bias.  I would certainly consider R2000  to be better than the unknown Hotline poll.

Zogby has no consistency or reliability.
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« Reply #19 on: October 12, 2008, 09:55:18 pm »
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Um, R2000 is not Zogby.   R2000 is a respectable firm with Democratic bias.  I would certainly consider R2000  to be better than the unknown Hotline poll.

Zogby has no consistency or reliability.

R2000 has some weighting problems.  Zogby is, well, Zogby.
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« Reply #20 on: October 12, 2008, 09:56:05 pm »
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lol @ this thread.
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« Reply #21 on: October 12, 2008, 09:56:51 pm »
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Um, R2000 is not Zogby.   R2000 is a respectable firm with Democratic bias.  I would certainly consider R2000  to be better than the unknown Hotline poll.

Zogby has no consistency or reliability.

R2000 has some weighting problems.  Zogby is, well, Zogby.

Well, fix the weighting and apply your own interpretation to it.
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« Reply #22 on: October 12, 2008, 09:57:07 pm »
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So?  They aren't a pollster to discard, unlike Zogby, who does not publish his internals and is not consistent.  Zogby is only posted because the media will observe it while I think R2000's results are in themselves interesting.
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« Reply #23 on: October 12, 2008, 09:57:59 pm »
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Who the heck respects R2K? I don't since they sold out their souls to the Kossacks.
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« Reply #24 on: October 12, 2008, 10:11:28 pm »
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Um, R2000 is not Zogby.   R2000 is a respectable firm with Democratic bias.  I would certainly consider R2000  to be better than the unknown Hotline poll.

Zogby has no consistency or reliability.

R2000 has some weighting problems.  Zogby is, well, Zogby.

Well, fix the weighting and apply your own interpretation to it.

I'm not going to try to fix the weighting, except to note that it tends to be too pro Democratic.
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