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Re: Non-Gallup/Rasmussen tracking polls thread
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Reply #50 on:
October 13, 2008, 11:32:50 pm »
Drudge leaked tomorrow's Zogby numbers (if anyone actually cares)...
Obama 49%
McCain 43%
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Re: Non-Gallup/Rasmussen tracking polls thread
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October 13, 2008, 11:39:18 pm »
Quote from: Eraserhead on October 13, 2008, 11:32:50 pm
Drudge leaked tomorrow's Zogby numbers (if anyone actually cares)...
Obama 49%
McCain 43%
Zogby certainly does...
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J. J.
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Re: Non-Gallup/Rasmussen tracking polls thread
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October 13, 2008, 11:55:40 pm »
Quote from: Sam Spade on October 13, 2008, 11:39:18 pm
Quote from: Eraserhead on October 13, 2008, 11:32:50 pm
Drudge leaked tomorrow's Zogby numbers (if anyone actually cares)...
Obama 49%
McCain 43%
Zogby certainly does...
Now if Dudge would leak Rasmussen's numbers, I'd be interested.
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Re: Non-Gallup/Rasmussen tracking polls thread
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October 13, 2008, 11:57:42 pm »
Quote from: Eraserhead on October 13, 2008, 11:32:50 pm
Drudge leaked tomorrow's Zogby numbers (if anyone actually cares)...
Obama 49%
McCain 43%
Confirmed:
Tuesday - October 14:
Obama 49.0% (+1.1)
McCain 42.8% (-0.8 )
Obama's overall edge is linked to his strong performance among independent voters, where he retains a substantial 17-point lead. Both Obama and McCain continue to do well in winning support from voters in their own respective parties - Obama wins 86% support from Democrats and McCain wins 87% support from Republicans.
Obama leads McCain by a statistically insignificant one point among men, and also leads among women by 11 points.Among those voters who said they have registered to vote in the last six months, Obama leads McCain by a 53% to 37% margin.
Among those who have already voted - about seven percent of the sample - Obama leads by a 52% to 42% edge over McCain.
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Re: Non-Gallup/Rasmussen tracking polls thread
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October 13, 2008, 11:59:50 pm »
If McCain can't close the gap among Independents, he's pretty much f****d.
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Re: Non-Gallup/Rasmussen tracking polls thread
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October 14, 2008, 09:10:37 am »
Ah, Battleground, you amuse me.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/RCP_PDF/BG_101408_2-way-ballot-trender.pdf
Obama: 53 (+2)
McCain: 40 (-3)
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Re: Non-Gallup/Rasmussen tracking polls thread
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October 14, 2008, 10:43:04 am »
Quote from: Verily on October 14, 2008, 09:10:37 am
Ah, Battleground, you amuse me.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/RCP_PDF/BG_101408_2-way-ballot-trender.pdf
Obama: 53 (+2)
McCain: 40 (-3)
maybe he's just predicting the PV on Nov 4th
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Re: Non-Gallup/Rasmussen tracking polls thread
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October 14, 2008, 10:58:53 am »
Hotline 10/14/08
Obama 48 (nc)
McCain 42 (nc)
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Re: Non-Gallup/Rasmussen tracking polls thread
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October 14, 2008, 12:22:10 pm »
• Gallup*: Obama 53%, McCain 43%, with a ±2% margin of error, compared to a 53%-43% Obama lead yesterday.
• Rasmussen: Obama 50%, McCain 45%, with a ±2% margin of error, unchanged from yesterday.
• Hotline/Diageo: Obama 48%, McCain 42%, with a ±3.4% margin of error, unchanged from yesterday.
• Research 2000: Obama 52%, McCain 41%, with a ±3% margin of error, compared to a 52%-40% Obama lead from yesterday.
• Zogby: Obama 49%, McCain 43%, with a ±2.9% margin of error, compared to a 48%-44% Obama lead yesterday.
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J. J.
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Re: Non-Gallup/Rasmussen tracking polls thread
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October 14, 2008, 01:50:08 pm »
Quote from: Lunar on October 14, 2008, 12:22:10 pm
• Gallup*: Obama 53%, McCain 43%, with a ±2% margin of error, compared to a 53%-43% Obama lead yesterday.
• Rasmussen: Obama 50%, McCain 45%, with a ±2% margin of error, unchanged from yesterday.
• Hotline/Diageo: Obama 48%, McCain 42%, with a ±3.4% margin of error, unchanged from yesterday.
• Research 2000: Obama 52%, McCain 41%, with a ±3% margin of error, compared to a 52%-40% Obama lead from yesterday.
• Zogby: Obama 49%, McCain 43%, with a ±2.9% margin of error, compared to a 48%-44% Obama lead yesterday.
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Re: Non-Gallup/Rasmussen tracking polls thread
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Reply #60 on:
October 14, 2008, 02:06:26 pm »
Quote from: J. J. on October 14, 2008, 01:50:08 pm
Quote from: Lunar on October 14, 2008, 12:22:10 pm
• Gallup*: Obama 53%, McCain 43%, with a ±2% margin of error, compared to a 53%-43% Obama lead yesterday.
• Rasmussen: Obama 50%, McCain 45%, with a ±2% margin of error, unchanged from yesterday.
• Hotline/Diageo: Obama 48%, McCain 42%, with a ±3.4% margin of error, unchanged from yesterday.
• Research 2000: Obama 52%, McCain 41%, with a ±3% margin of error, compared to a 52%-40% Obama lead from yesterday.
• Zogby: Obama 49%, McCain 43%, with a ±2.9% margin of error, compared to a 48%-44% Obama lead yesterday.
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Stop that. They're a respectable poll with a slight democratic bias. In fact, you CITE their numbers in your arguments in other threads! I get how you feel about it, but you're not contributing anything by doing that repeatedly.
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J. J.
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Re: Non-Gallup/Rasmussen tracking polls thread
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October 14, 2008, 02:57:28 pm »
Quote from: Lunar on October 14, 2008, 02:06:26 pm
Quote from: J. J. on October 14, 2008, 01:50:08 pm
Quote from: Lunar on October 14, 2008, 12:22:10 pm
• Gallup*: Obama 53%, McCain 43%, with a ±2% margin of error, compared to a 53%-43% Obama lead yesterday.
• Rasmussen: Obama 50%, McCain 45%, with a ±2% margin of error, unchanged from yesterday.
• Hotline/Diageo: Obama 48%, McCain 42%, with a ±3.4% margin of error, unchanged from yesterday.
• Research 2000: Obama 52%, McCain 41%, with a ±3% margin of error, compared to a 52%-40% Obama lead from yesterday.
• Zogby: Obama 49%, McCain 43%, with a ±2.9% margin of error, compared to a 48%-44% Obama lead yesterday.
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Stop that. They're a respectable poll with a slight democratic bias. In fact, you CITE their numbers in your arguments in other threads! I get how you feel about it, but you're not contributing anything by doing that repeatedly.
As has been pointed out from the start, they have a very bad weighting, even though they showed a gain for McCain.
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J. J.
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Sam Spade
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Re: Non-Gallup/Rasmussen tracking polls thread
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October 14, 2008, 03:07:35 pm »
The Daily Kos poll is questionable in my view, and will always be questionable.
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Re: Non-Gallup/Rasmussen tracking polls thread
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October 14, 2008, 03:09:27 pm »
Quote from: Sam Spade on October 14, 2008, 03:07:35 pm
The Daily Kos poll is questionable in my view, and will always be questionable.
Indeed, it is consistently the most favorable poll to the Dems by a large margin. But it's a reasonable respectable institution, unike Zogby. I reserve the strike-out for proven idiocy only.
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Re: Non-Gallup/Rasmussen tracking polls thread
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October 14, 2008, 03:12:15 pm »
Quote from: Lunar on October 14, 2008, 03:09:27 pm
Quote from: Sam Spade on October 14, 2008, 03:07:35 pm
The Daily Kos poll is questionable in my view, and will always be questionable.
Indeed, it is consistently the most favorable poll to the Dems by a large margin. But it's a reasonable respectable institution, unike Zogby. I reserve the strike-out for proven idiocy only.
You know, Zogby, although he's an idiot, has gotten things correct before. We might call it luck, but a broken clock is right twice a day.
I can't legitimately call Daily Kos a reasonably respectable institution, even though I know that's not what you're talking about.
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October 14, 2008, 03:20:13 pm »
Quote from: Sam Spade on October 14, 2008, 03:12:15 pm
Quote from: Lunar on October 14, 2008, 03:09:27 pm
Quote from: Sam Spade on October 14, 2008, 03:07:35 pm
The Daily Kos poll is questionable in my view, and will always be questionable.
Indeed, it is consistently the most favorable poll to the Dems by a large margin. But it's a reasonable respectable institution, unike Zogby. I reserve the strike-out for proven idiocy only.
You know, Zogby, although he's an idiot, has gotten things correct before. We might call it luck, but a broken clock is right twice a day.
I can't legitimately call Daily Kos a reasonably respectable institution, even though I know that's not what you're talking about.
If you knew what I was talking about, why'd you say that then?
Zogby does get some things right, his 6% today could be right on. I still don't think his numbers are useful for us. R2000 is what a Democratic surge would look like, roughly...
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J. J.
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October 14, 2008, 04:26:41 pm »
Quote from: Lunar on October 14, 2008, 03:20:13 pm
Quote from: Sam Spade on October 14, 2008, 03:12:15 pm
Quote from: Lunar on October 14, 2008, 03:09:27 pm
Quote from: Sam Spade on October 14, 2008, 03:07:35 pm
The Daily Kos poll is questionable in my view, and will always be questionable.
Indeed, it is consistently the most favorable poll to the Dems by a large margin. But it's a reasonable respectable institution, unike Zogby. I reserve the strike-out for proven idiocy only.
You know, Zogby, although he's an idiot, has gotten things correct before. We might call it luck, but a broken clock is right twice a day.
I can't legitimately call Daily Kos a reasonably respectable institution, even though I know that's not what you're talking about.
If you knew what I was talking about, why'd you say that then?
Zogby does get some things right, his 6% today could be right on. I still don't think his numbers are useful for us. R2000 is what a Democratic surge would look like, roughly...
Then why use it, if it isn't accurate. Crap is still crap, even if it shows the Democrats going downward.
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J. J.
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Re: Non-Gallup/Rasmussen tracking polls thread
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October 14, 2008, 04:46:04 pm »
I'm not "using" it, but the firm has at least an average track record and publish all of their crosstabs. It's not Zogby.
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October 14, 2008, 04:52:49 pm »
Quote from: Lunar on October 14, 2008, 04:46:04 pm
I'm not "using" it, but the firm has at least an average track record and publish all of their crosstabs. It's not Zogby.
Well, if you are going to strike through Zogby, strike through R2000.
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J. J.
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Re: Non-Gallup/Rasmussen tracking polls thread
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October 14, 2008, 06:46:17 pm »
ZOGBY WEDNESDAY
OBAMA 48.2%, MCCAIN 44.4%... NOT SURE 7.4%... DEVELOPING...
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Re: Non-Gallup/Rasmussen tracking polls thread
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October 14, 2008, 06:49:19 pm »
Can someone answer me something? How can Zogby be done polling when it is only 4:48 on the west coast? I really don't understand.
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Re: Non-Gallup/Rasmussen tracking polls thread
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October 14, 2008, 06:52:19 pm »
Quote from: RowanBrandon on October 14, 2008, 06:49:19 pm
Can someone answer me something? How can Zogby be done polling when it is only 4:48 on the west coast? I really don't understand.
It's Zogby. He can poll anywhere, anytime. Including before it actually happens.
Guess what - these are actually next Saturday's numbers!!!!!!
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October 14, 2008, 07:08:53 pm »
Quote from: Sam Spade on October 14, 2008, 06:46:17 pm
ZOGBY
WEDNESDAY
OBAMA 48.2%, MCCAIN 44.4%... NOT SURE 7.4%... DEVELOPING...
Fixed.
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October 14, 2008, 07:16:03 pm »
TIPP Tuesday 10/13/08
Obama 45 (nc)
McCain 42 (-1)
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October 14, 2008, 07:28:52 pm »
What is the party ID weighting for this Zogby poll?
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