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Firefly
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Re: Obama raised more than $100 million in September, according to the NYT
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October 23, 2008, 12:56:58 am »
Quote from: J. J. on October 23, 2008, 12:41:01 am
Quote from: Firefly on October 23, 2008, 12:16:55 am
Quote from: J. J. on October 22, 2008, 11:53:54 pm
You really can't go on "raised in September." COH is $9 million apart, not a lot. Just to make double parity, it's just over the RNC's COH at the start of the month.
You can go on "raised in September." You can go on "raised in the 3rd quarter." You can go on "raised this election cycle." Any way you look at it the DSCC has solidly outperformed the NRSC in fundraising. $9 million is over half the NRSC's CoH. It's $9 million that the RNC will have to make up if they want their Senate candidates to stay competitive in campaign spending. It's $9 million the RNC won't be able to spend helping out McCain when they're already in the hole compared to Obama. It's also $9 million the RNC won't be able to use propping up the NRCC, which is even worse shape. And that's just the cash disparity as of October 1st. Considering the trend in fundraising so far, the DSCC is likely to outperform the NRSC again in October, which is increasing the disparity as we speak (or type).
You are making an assumption that RNC will primarily fund Senate candidates. They don't.
Uh, no, I didn't, but if the NRSC is at least $9 million behind the DSCC (which they are), and assuming that fundraising among individual Senators averages out as roughly equal on both sides (since we don't know all of the actual numbers there), the RNC will have to make up the difference or suffer the consequences of their vulnerable Senate candidates getting outspent in the final weeks.
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J. J.
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Re: Obama raised more than $100 million in September, according to the NYT
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October 25, 2008, 09:03:16 am »
Quote from: Firefly on October 23, 2008, 12:56:58 am
Quote from: J. J. on October 23, 2008, 12:41:01 am
Quote from: Firefly on October 23, 2008, 12:16:55 am
Quote from: J. J. on October 22, 2008, 11:53:54 pm
You really can't go on "raised in September." COH is $9 million apart, not a lot. Just to make double parity, it's just over the RNC's COH at the start of the month.
You can go on "raised in September." You can go on "raised in the 3rd quarter." You can go on "raised this election cycle." Any way you look at it the DSCC has solidly outperformed the NRSC in fundraising. $9 million is over half the NRSC's CoH. It's $9 million that the RNC will have to make up if they want their Senate candidates to stay competitive in campaign spending. It's $9 million the RNC won't be able to spend helping out McCain when they're already in the hole compared to Obama. It's also $9 million the RNC won't be able to use propping up the NRCC, which is even worse shape. And that's just the cash disparity as of October 1st. Considering the trend in fundraising so far, the DSCC is likely to outperform the NRSC again in October, which is increasing the disparity as we speak (or type).
You are making an assumption that RNC will primarily fund Senate candidates. They don't.
Uh, no, I didn't, but if the NRSC is at least $9 million behind the DSCC (which they are), and assuming that fundraising among individual Senators averages out as roughly equal on both sides (since we don't know all of the actual numbers there), the RNC will have to make up the difference or suffer the consequences of their vulnerable Senate candidates getting outspent in the final weeks.
I hate to tell you this, but candidates, especially incumbents, raise their own money.
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J. J.
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Frodo
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Re: Obama raised more than $100 million in September, according to the NYT
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October 25, 2008, 02:03:39 pm »
I am willing to bet that Obama will raise upwards of $250 million to $300 million once fundraising reports come out for the month of October.
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J. J.
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Re: Obama raised more than $100 million in September, according to the NYT
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October 25, 2008, 03:23:40 pm »
Quote from: Frodo on October 25, 2008, 02:03:39 pm
I am willing to bet that Obama will raise upwards of $250 million to $300 million once fundraising reports come out for the month of October.
He may have, but that isn't the congressional races.
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J. J.
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The trouble is, in a democracy the whores are us." - P. J. O'Rourke
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Frodo
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Re: Obama raised more than $100 million in September, according to the NYT
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October 25, 2008, 03:30:19 pm »
BTW, how much has Obama raised overall, thus far? $500 million? $600 million?
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J. J.
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October 25, 2008, 03:32:53 pm »
Quote from: Frodo on October 25, 2008, 03:30:19 pm
BTW, how much has Obama raised overall, thus far? $500 million? $600 million?
I think it was over $500 M by the end of August.
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J. J.
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The trouble is, in a democracy the whores are us." - P. J. O'Rourke
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Lunar
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Re: Obama raised more than $100 million in September, according to the NYT
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October 25, 2008, 04:21:08 pm »
It's 640 million I think now. (604 by October 1st. 36 million first two weeks of October)
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Re: Obama raised more than $100 million in September, according to the NYT
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Quote from: Lunar on October 25, 2008, 04:21:08 pm
It's 640 million I think now. (604 by October 1st. 36 million first two weeks of October)
Do you think it was a good idea of rhim to opt out of public financing, then?
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J. J.
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Re: Obama raised more than $100 million in September, according to the NYT
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October 26, 2008, 07:36:20 pm »
Quote from: freedomburns on October 26, 2008, 06:26:49 pm
Quote from: Lunar on October 25, 2008, 04:21:08 pm
It's 640 million I think now. (604 by October 1st. 36 million first two weeks of October)
Do you think it was a good idea of rhim to opt out of public financing, then?
It was a gamble, but it paid off.
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J. J.
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Re: Obama raised more than $100 million in September, according to the NYT
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Reply #34 on:
October 26, 2008, 07:37:45 pm »
Quote from: J. J. on October 26, 2008, 07:36:20 pm
Quote from: freedomburns on October 26, 2008, 06:26:49 pm
Quote from: Lunar on October 25, 2008, 04:21:08 pm
It's 640 million I think now. (604 by October 1st. 36 million first two weeks of October)
Do you think it was a good idea of rhim to opt out of public financing, then?
It was a gamble, but it paid off.
About time you admitted that.
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J. J.
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Re: Obama raised more than $100 million in September, according to the NYT
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October 26, 2008, 07:51:57 pm »
Quote from: She's a brick and I'm drowning slowly. on October 26, 2008, 07:37:45 pm
Quote from: J. J. on October 26, 2008, 07:36:20 pm
Quote from: freedomburns on October 26, 2008, 06:26:49 pm
Quote from: Lunar on October 25, 2008, 04:21:08 pm
It's 640 million I think now. (604 by October 1st. 36 million first two weeks of October)
Do you think it was a good idea of rhim to opt out of public financing, then?
It was a gamble, but it paid off.
About time you admitted that.
I said that from the start, that it
could
pay off. It's like Palin. We're at the point where she might pay off, but she might not.
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J. J.
"Actually, .. now that you mention it...."
- Londo Molari
"Every government are parliaments of whores.
The trouble is, in a democracy the whores are us." - P. J. O'Rourke
"Wa sala, wa lala."
(Zulu for, "You snooze, you lose.")
Firefly
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Re: Obama raised more than $100 million in September, according to the NYT
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Reply #36 on:
October 26, 2008, 09:12:18 pm »
Quote from: J. J. on October 26, 2008, 07:51:57 pm
Quote from: She's a brick and I'm drowning slowly. on October 26, 2008, 07:37:45 pm
Quote from: J. J. on October 26, 2008, 07:36:20 pm
Quote from: freedomburns on October 26, 2008, 06:26:49 pm
Quote from: Lunar on October 25, 2008, 04:21:08 pm
It's 640 million I think now. (604 by October 1st. 36 million first two weeks of October)
Do you think it was a good idea of rhim to opt out of public financing, then?
It was a gamble, but it paid off.
About time you admitted that.
I said that from the start, that it
could
pay off. It's like Palin. We're at the point where she might pay off, but she might not.
I think we're well past that point. Palin has been dragging McCain down and is going to cost him dearly a week from Tuesday.
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J. J.
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Re: Obama raised more than $100 million in September, according to the NYT
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Reply #37 on:
October 26, 2008, 10:04:01 pm »
Quote from: Firefly on October 26, 2008, 09:12:18 pm
Quote from: J. J. on October 26, 2008, 07:51:57 pm
Quote from: She's a brick and I'm drowning slowly. on October 26, 2008, 07:37:45 pm
Quote from: J. J. on October 26, 2008, 07:36:20 pm
Quote from: freedomburns on October 26, 2008, 06:26:49 pm
Quote from: Lunar on October 25, 2008, 04:21:08 pm
It's 640 million I think now. (604 by October 1st. 36 million first two weeks of October)
Do you think it was a good idea of rhim to opt out of public financing, then?
It was a gamble, but it paid off.
About time you admitted that.
I said that from the start, that it
could
pay off. It's like Palin. We're at the point where she might pay off, but she might not.
I think we're well past that point. Palin has been dragging McCain down and is going to cost him dearly a week from Tuesday.
Maybe, maybe not. Shades of Mypalfish.
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J. J.
"Actually, .. now that you mention it...."
- Londo Molari
"Every government are parliaments of whores.
The trouble is, in a democracy the whores are us." - P. J. O'Rourke
"Wa sala, wa lala."
(Zulu for, "You snooze, you lose.")
Sensei
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Re: Obama raised more than $100 million in September, according to the NYT
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Reply #38 on:
October 26, 2008, 10:06:11 pm »
Quote from: J. J. on October 26, 2008, 10:04:01 pm
Quote from: Firefly on October 26, 2008, 09:12:18 pm
Quote from: J. J. on October 26, 2008, 07:51:57 pm
Quote from: She's a brick and I'm drowning slowly. on October 26, 2008, 07:37:45 pm
Quote from: J. J. on October 26, 2008, 07:36:20 pm
Quote from: freedomburns on October 26, 2008, 06:26:49 pm
Quote from: Lunar on October 25, 2008, 04:21:08 pm
It's 640 million I think now. (604 by October 1st. 36 million first two weeks of October)
Do you think it was a good idea of rhim to opt out of public financing, then?
It was a gamble, but it paid off.
About time you admitted that.
I said that from the start, that it
could
pay off. It's like Palin. We're at the point where she might pay off, but she might not.
I think we're well past that point. Palin has been dragging McCain down and is going to cost him dearly a week from Tuesday.
Maybe, maybe not. Shades of Mypalfish.
I agree. JJ is looking awfully like this election's mypalfish, except not in a close race.
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J. J.
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Re: Obama raised more than $100 million in September, according to the NYT
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Reply #39 on:
October 26, 2008, 10:18:59 pm »
Quote from: Сенатор Sensei on October 26, 2008, 10:06:11 pm
Quote from: J. J. on October 26, 2008, 10:04:01 pm
Quote from: Firefly on October 26, 2008, 09:12:18 pm
Quote from: J. J. on October 26, 2008, 07:51:57 pm
Quote from: She's a brick and I'm drowning slowly. on October 26, 2008, 07:37:45 pm
Quote from: J. J. on October 26, 2008, 07:36:20 pm
Quote from: freedomburns on October 26, 2008, 06:26:49 pm
Quote from: Lunar on October 25, 2008, 04:21:08 pm
It's 640 million I think now. (604 by October 1st. 36 million first two weeks of October)
Do you think it was a good idea of rhim to opt out of public financing, then?
It was a gamble, but it paid off.
About time you admitted that.
I said that from the start, that it
could
pay off. It's like Palin. We're at the point where she might pay off, but she might not.
I think we're well past that point. Palin has been dragging McCain down and is going to cost him dearly a week from Tuesday.
Maybe, maybe not. Shades of Mypalfish.
I agree. JJ is looking awfully like this election's mypalfish, except not in a close race.
No, I'm saying, let it play out. I've called Palin a gamble since the announcement. If anything loses this election for McCain, it's the economy.
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J. J.
"Actually, .. now that you mention it...."
- Londo Molari
"Every government are parliaments of whores.
The trouble is, in a democracy the whores are us." - P. J. O'Rourke
"Wa sala, wa lala."
(Zulu for, "You snooze, you lose.")
LanceMcSteel
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Re: Obama raised more than $100 million in September, according to the NYT
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So whats with mypalfish?? What did he do?
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Miamiu1027
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Re: Obama raised more than $100 million in September, according to the NYT
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October 27, 2008, 02:04:09 am »
Quote from: LanceMcSteel on October 26, 2008, 10:55:42 pm
So whats with mypalfish?? What did he do?
http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=12005.0
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LanceMcSteel
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Re: Obama raised more than $100 million in September, according to the NYT
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October 27, 2008, 03:21:18 pm »
Quote from: © Black Friday on October 27, 2008, 02:04:09 am
Quote from: LanceMcSteel on October 26, 2008, 10:55:42 pm
So whats with mypalfish?? What did he do?
http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=12005.0
ouch
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J. J.
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Re: Obama raised more than $100 million in September, according to the NYT
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Quote from: LanceMcSteel on October 27, 2008, 03:21:18 pm
Quote from: © Black Friday on October 27, 2008, 02:04:09 am
Quote from: LanceMcSteel on October 26, 2008, 10:55:42 pm
So whats with mypalfish?? What did he do?
http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=12005.0
ouch
Don't count you chickens until they are hatched.
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J. J.
"Actually, .. now that you mention it...."
- Londo Molari
"Every government are parliaments of whores.
The trouble is, in a democracy the whores are us." - P. J. O'Rourke
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