Who will you vote for in '12?

[AltWorlder]

I'm pretty certain that spending beyond your means is a universal politician trait that transcends ideology or party.  Everybody's got to at least butter up their constituencies with pork.

[paul718]

Populist or not, G.W. Bush cannot be labeled a "Conservative" in the true sense of the term. 

[Eraserhead]

Almost certainly Obama, unless he fails to pull the vast majority of our troops out of Iraq in his first term.

[The Ex-Factor]

Almost certainly Obama, unless he fails to pull the vast majority of our troops out of Iraq in his first term he screws up bigtime.

[paul718]

     I would lean towards the Republican, though it depends on who it is. There are certain Republicans (Huckabee, Jindal, Pence) who I would never vote for for President.

Why not Pence?  He's vehemently small-government.  Is it because of social issues?

[°Leprechaun]

doesn't this somewhat depend on how he performs as President?

Nobody should be able to honestly answer this question yet.

I'd vote for the Republican, regardless. So yes, I can honestly answer this question. Isn't this question about as ridiculous as this board?

Any Republican??
Really?
What about Ron Paul, Colin Powel, Snowe, Susan Collins, Chuck Hagel, or Lieberman if he switches?

[??????????]

doesn't this somewhat depend on how he performs as President?

Nobody should be able to honestly answer this question yet.

I'd vote for the Republican, regardless. So yes, I can honestly answer this question. Isn't this question about as ridiculous as this board?

Any Republican??
Really?
What about Ron Paul, Colin Powel, Snowe, Susan Collins, Chuck Hagel, or Lieberman if he switches?

Yes, against Mr Socialist I would.

[Associate Justice PiT]

     I would lean towards the Republican, though it depends on who it is. There are certain Republicans (Huckabee, Jindal, Pence) who I would never vote for for President.

Why not Pence?  He's vehemently small-government.  Is it because of social issues?

     Yeah, from what I've heard out of Indiana, Pence is way too socially conservative for my tastes. I guess if Obama is enough of a failure, I would become somewhat open to voting for Pence.

[phk]

Depends on what my political stances I have in 2012.

In 2004, I was a Marxist-Leninist-Maoist who felt guilty about participating in "bourgeois" politics by making a useless vote for Kerry.

In 2008, I'm a solid right-winger whose voting for McCain.

[Ronnie]

     I would lean towards the Republican, though it depends on who it is. There are certain Republicans (Huckabee, Jindal, Pence) who I would never vote for for President.

Why not Pence?  He's vehemently small-government.  Is it because of social issues?

     Yeah, from what I've heard out of Indiana, Pence is way too socially conservative for my tastes. I guess if Obama is enough of a failure, I would become somewhat open to voting for Pence.

I really like Pence, since he is the type of Republican that was serving in congress in the Clinton years.  Since I couldn't care less about most social issues, I would be very open to vote for Pence if Obama is a failure or mediocre president.

[phk]

     I would lean towards the Republican, though it depends on who it is. There are certain Republicans (Huckabee, Jindal, Pence) who I would never vote for for President.

Why not Pence?  He's vehemently small-government.  Is it because of social issues?

     Yeah, from what I've heard out of Indiana, Pence is way too socially conservative for my tastes. I guess if Obama is enough of a failure, I would become somewhat open to voting for Pence.

I really like Pence, since he is the type of Republican that was serving in congress in the Clinton years.  Since I couldn't care less about most social issues, I would be very open to vote for Pence if Obama is a failure or mediocre president.

Ditto here.

Social issues for me are easily substitutable and closer to political tools than anything.

[Хahar 🤔]

I'd Vote for President Obama is he is successful and can unite the divided country and is popular and around the world and can avoid any mishaps in the withdraw and
can fix this economy.

If Obama=EPIC FAIL

Then I'm voting Romney.

I Heard he may run for Governor of California, can he do that?

Romney?

I've never heard that before. He'd lose.

[paul718]

I'd Vote for President Obama is he is successful and can unite the divided country and is popular and around the world and can avoid any mishaps in the withdraw and
can fix this economy.

If Obama=EPIC FAIL

Then I'm voting Romney.

I Heard he may run for Governor of California, can he do that?

I think so.  In 2005, Bill Weld (former Gov. of MA) tried to get the Republican nomination to run for Gov. of NY, but he lost. 

Romney?

I've never heard that before. He'd lose.

First I'm hearing it too.  Though I have heard Meg Whitman is considering it. 

[Ronnie]

     I would lean towards the Republican, though it depends on who it is. There are certain Republicans (Huckabee, Jindal, Pence) who I would never vote for for President.

Why not Pence?  He's vehemently small-government.  Is it because of social issues?

     Yeah, from what I've heard out of Indiana, Pence is way too socially conservative for my tastes. I guess if Obama is enough of a failure, I would become somewhat open to voting for Pence.

I really like Pence, since he is the type of Republican that was serving in congress in the Clinton years.  Since I couldn't care less about most social issues, I would be very open to vote for Pence if Obama is a failure or mediocre president.

Ditto here.

Social issues for me are easily substitutable and closer to political tools than anything.

My dream ticket for a presidential race would be:

Susan Collins (R-ME)/Mike Pence (R-IN)

It really depends on whether Lugar serves in the Obama administration or not.  If he does, Daniels would almost certainly choose Pence to vacate his seat.

[BM]

That's a pretty lofty dream.

[Workers' Friend]

Just a quick question, how well is Senator Bill Frist's (R-TN) Reputation? If it is fairly well, he could be on The 2012 ticket, maybe or maybe not.

[paul718]

Just a quick question, how well is Senator Bill Frist's (R-TN) Reputation? If it is fairly well, he could be on The 2012 ticket, maybe or maybe not.

He's too wedded to the Bush years.  He led the free-spending Senate that the GOP will be running away from for the next few years.  In that other world, where Bush had a +50% approval rating, he probably would've been the '08 nominee. 

The only way Frist ends up on a national ticket is if he becomes governor of TN in 2010.  I have a feeling, however, that Harold Ford will be running and don't think Frist would beat him. 

[Workers' Friend]

Just a quick question, how well is Senator Bill Frist's (R-TN) Reputation? If it is fairly well, he could be on The 2012 ticket, maybe or maybe not.

He's too wedded to the Bush years.  He led the free-spending Senate that the GOP will be running away from for the next few years.  In that other world, where Bush had a +50% approval rating, he probably would've been the '08 nominee. 

The only way Frist ends up on a national ticket is if he becomes governor of TN in 2010.  I have a feeling, however, that Harold Ford will be running and don't think Frist would beat him. 

I see ... Hmm, Too bad he was too Bushy on economy, otherwise I would've supported him, now I won't.

Other than Huckabee, who should I hope for in 2012?

[phk]

Almost certainly Obama, unless he fails to pull the vast majority of our troops out of Iraq in his first term.

You'll be voting for Obama in 12' barring some political conversion.

[paul718]

I see ... Hmm, Too bad he was too Bushy on economy, otherwise I would've supported him, now I won't.

Other than Huckabee, who should I hope for in 2012?

If I'm reading your political matrix correctly, your best bet would be Palin.  Maybe Thune, if I'm assessing him right.  It's tough for you because I don't see the GOP nominating a populist.

[Workers' Friend]

I see ... Hmm, Too bad he was too Bushy on economy, otherwise I would've supported him, now I won't.

Other than Huckabee, who should I hope for in 2012?

If I'm reading your political matrix correctly, your best bet would be Palin.  Maybe Thune, if I'm assessing him right.  It's tough for you because I don't see the GOP nominating a populist.

I like Palin and I'd possibly vote for her post-primary if she won, but I doubt she'd ever get the nomination. I do admire Thune, at least Socially (if I can get more info on him, that'd be excellent.) I wish the Democrats would nominate a more Social Conservative candidate, but I doubt that will ever happen again.