Landmine Ban Treaty Bill (Law'd)

[DownWithTheLeft]

You do have this thing about treaties DWTL.  The very word is like Kyptonite to you.

This is quite treaty, I don't know if you've seen Team America but they all remind of the scene where Hans Blix tells Saddam that he is going to write him a very nasty letter telling him he is a bad, bad man if he does not stop making weapons.  Really all treaties do are sign pointless agreements, just making a law that we do not adhere to certain practices would acheive the same goal without being bound by the rest of the world if circumstances arise that cause us to need to change that law.

You know, one can withdraw from treaties. It's not like a contract without a termination date, where if you want out, your ass gets sued for breach.

You can withdraw from them, but then what would the point of getting into in the first place be?  Its much easier never to get involved.  Not signing a treaty is better for our international standing than backing out of one we signed.

[Torie]

What is the difference between passing a bill (which you say is OK), and repealing it, and entering into a treaty, and then withdrawing from it?

[DownWithTheLeft]

What is the difference between passing a bill (which you say is OK), and repealing it, and entering into a treaty, and then withdrawing from it?

If we create a law and repeal, that just says that we changed our position.  Entering a treaty and decided to back out of it could damage our international standing.

[Torie]

What is the difference between passing a bill (which you say is OK), and repealing it, and entering into a treaty, and then withdrawing from it?

If we create a law and repeal, that just says that we changed our position.  Entering a treaty and decided to back out of it could damage our international standing.

OK, that is a reasonable point maybe.

[Bacon King]

What is the difference between passing a bill (which you say is OK), and repealing it, and entering into a treaty, and then withdrawing from it?

If we create a law and repeal, that just says that we changed our position.  Entering a treaty and decided to back out of it could damage our international standing.

Wouldn't neglecting to ratify a treaty that most of the world (and our allies) are a party to be just as damaging to our international standing?

[DownWithTheLeft]

What is the difference between passing a bill (which you say is OK), and repealing it, and entering into a treaty, and then withdrawing from it?

If we create a law and repeal, that just says that we changed our position.  Entering a treaty and decided to back out of it could damage our international standing.

Wouldn't neglecting to ratify a treaty that most of the world (and our allies) are a party to be just as damaging to our international standing?

Not at all, especially on this issue.  If it were something pressing, say like a war resolution or something, then that might be the case, but this certainly is not a pressing issue in society

[Хahar 🤔]

What is the difference between passing a bill (which you say is OK), and repealing it, and entering into a treaty, and then withdrawing from it?

If we create a law and repeal, that just says that we changed our position.  Entering a treaty and decided to back out of it could damage our international standing.

Wouldn't neglecting to ratify a treaty that most of the world (and our allies) are a party to be just as damaging to our international standing?

Not at all, especially on this issue.  If it were something pressing, say like a war resolution or something, then that might be the case, but this certainly is not a pressing issue in society

People in many parts of the world would disagree.

[minionofmidas]

What is the difference between passing a bill (which you say is OK), and repealing it, and entering into a treaty, and then withdrawing from it?

If we create a law and repeal, that just says that we changed our position.  Entering a treaty and decided to back out of it could damage our international standing.

Wouldn't neglecting to ratify a treaty that most of the world (and our allies) are a party to be just as damaging to our international standing?

Not at all, especially on this issue.  If it were something pressing, say like a war resolution or something, then that might be the case, but this certainly is not a pressing issue in society

Which is exactly why America's ill-explained intransigence on the issue has been damaging to America's international standing.

[minionofmidas]

Landmine Ban Treaty Bill

The Republic of Atlasia shall become a party to the Convention on the Prohibition of the Use, Stockpiling, Production and Transfer of Anti-Personnel Mines and on their Destruction as agreed in Ottawa in 1997.



Calling for a final vote. Please vote aye, nay or abstain.


Aye.

[Sensei]

aye

[DownWithTheLeft]

*sighs and continues to await arrival of PiT and others*

Nay

[minionofmidas]

*sighs and continues to await arrival of PiT and others*

Nay

*others*?

You mean, like, Opebo (or whatever will be the outcome there) replacing Meeker as least active regional Senator?

[Јas]

Aye

[Bacon King]

aye

[DownWithTheLeft]

*sighs and continues to await arrival of PiT and others*

Nay

*others*?

You mean, like, Opebo (or whatever will be the outcome there) replacing Meeker as least active regional Senator?

Hey, if it winds up being the only declared candidate

[minionofmidas]

Current vote count

Aye 4 (Lewis, Sensei, Jas, Bacon)
Nay 1 (Dwtl)
yet to vote 5 (Torie, Al, Meeker, Verily, Culture)

[Filuwaúrdjan]

aye

[Torie]

Aye

[CultureKing]

aye

[minionofmidas]

Current vote count

Aye 7 (Lewis, Sensei, Jas, Bacon, Al, Torie, Culture)
Nay 1 (Dwtl)
yet to vote 2 (Meeker, Verily)

This bill has enough votes to pass. Senators have 24 hours to change their vote.

[minionofmidas]

This bill has passed. It is presented to the President for his signature or veto.

Final vote count:
Aye 7 (Lewis, Sensei, Jas, Bacon, Al, Torie, Culture)
Nay 1 (Dwtl)
did not vote 2 (Meeker, Verily)

[Small Business Owner of Any Repute]

Gladly sign'd and law'd.



William F. Moderate
President

[Brandon H]

Wiki'd

Landmine Ban Treaty Act