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« on: October 26, 2008, 09:33:56 AM »

solid obama + very strong lean obama=282 evs

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« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2008, 09:35:22 AM »

I can't help it, but "very strong lean" sounds very awkward. Wink
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« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2008, 09:37:31 AM »

I can't help it, but "very strong lean" sounds very awkward. Wink

well i happen to believe those lean states in my map are pretty solid, but i know some would disagree, so i put them as 'lean'.

of those leaners, i think va is the only one that has much of a chance to go mccain.
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« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2008, 10:37:11 AM »

Do what he's doing -- pound away at everything remotely in play.  PA, VA, NH, NM, NV, CO, MO.  Forget everything else.
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« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2008, 10:47:34 AM »

pretty much nothing
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« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2008, 11:48:57 AM »

Mitty, if you would just start supporting Obama, then all of these problems would go away.
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« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2008, 11:51:45 AM »

Mitty, if you would just start supporting Obama, then all of these problems would go away.

He recently said he was reluctantly supporting Obama.
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« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2008, 11:57:28 AM »

Mitty, if you would just start supporting Obama, then all of these problems would go away.

He recently said he was reluctantly supporting Obama.

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« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2008, 12:00:11 PM »

Mitty, if you would just start supporting Obama, then all of these problems would go away.

He recently said he was reluctantly supporting Obama.

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https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=85855.msg1775197#msg1775197
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« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2008, 12:25:24 PM »

He somehow closes an 8-point national gap in 9 days. Good luck with that.
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« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2008, 12:31:14 PM »
« Edited: October 26, 2008, 12:32:49 PM by auburntiger »

solid obama + very strong lean obama=282 evs



Nothing. Those 286 EV's (you forgot Hawaii) are now non-swing states. The swing states are now: Nevada, Montana, Missouri, Indiana, Ohio, Florida, North Carolina, and Georgia.

A swing state has to have polls that go back and forth, not one candidate leading in all of them for a lengthy period of time.

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« Reply #11 on: October 26, 2008, 12:51:20 PM »

He can't.

All McCain can do now is campaign on autopilot and hope Something Happens. He no longer has any control over the outcome of the race.
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« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2008, 01:17:58 PM »

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He's gotta attack those pink states, minus NM which is really red, and stop wasting time in Iowa. He also has to spend more time in NV, MO, IN, WV, NC and FL.

But I really think it's over now. All those pink states, and many more, are going to fall to Obama. He ought to spend Election Day campaigning in AZ to ensure he doesn't get embarrassed with a home loss.
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« Reply #13 on: October 26, 2008, 01:19:57 PM »

He somehow closes an 8-point national gap in 9 days. Good luck with that.

Yeah, I don't even think a new Bin Laden tape can help erase that lead. The only thing that could help him at this point would be a major terrorist attack or the capture/killing of Bin Laden.
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« Reply #14 on: October 26, 2008, 04:22:27 PM »

Maybe he could travel back in time and try not to be such an ass.
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« Reply #15 on: October 26, 2008, 05:54:43 PM »

solid obama + very strong lean obama=282 evs



Spend most of the next eight days in PA and hope FL and OH stay red.
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« Reply #16 on: October 26, 2008, 06:00:45 PM »

The way I see it, there are seven things that might allow McCain to close the gap:

-a Michelle Obama whitey tape
-a scandal of the live boy or dead girl variety
-Russia invades Ukraine and/or the Baltics
-North Korea invades South Korea
-a major terrorist attack on a US city
-Bin Laden is captured or confirmed dead as a result of US military action
-the Mother of all Bradley Effects on election day. Of course, to win McCain would need a Bradely Effect even bigger than the Bradley Effect in the original Bradley Effect elections back in the 80s.
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« Reply #17 on: October 26, 2008, 07:02:26 PM »

The way I see it, there are seven things that might allow McCain to close the gap:

-a Michelle Obama whitey tape
-a scandal of the live boy or dead girl variety
-Russia invades Ukraine and/or the Baltics
-North Korea invades South Korea
-a major terrorist attack on a US city
-Bin Laden is captured or confirmed dead as a result of US military action
-the Mother of all Bradley Effects on election day. Of course, to win McCain would need a Bradely Effect even bigger than the Bradley Effect in the original Bradley Effect elections back in the 80s.

Agree, more or less, but I'd add the possibility that the likely voter models are jacked up.  I'm not skeptical that there is a shift, just the scope of that shift.  The numbers are doing some funny things this year.
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