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« on: October 26, 2008, 05:48:05 PM »

http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/jesse-jackson-jr.-hopes-to-replace-obama-in-senate-2008-10-26.html

Illinois political insiders say Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr., who defended Barack Obama after his father famously threatened to castrate him, is the favorite to replace the Democratic nominee in the Senate.

Jackson Jr. (D-Ill.) scolded his father, the Rev. Jesse Jackson, publicly after his comments were caught unexpectedly on tape before an interview with Fox News this summer.

But Jackson Jr.’s path is by no means assured. Rep. Jan Schakowsky (D-Ill.) also wants to replace Sen. Obama (Ill.) in the upper chamber if he is elected president.
This gives Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich, who must choose between an African-American political scion and a close ally of the labor movement, a difficult decision.

Jackson has made plain that he would like to succeed Obama in the Senate.

“If Sen. Obama wins -- and I’m optimistic that he will, I indeed would be honored and humbled to succeed him in the U.S. Senate,” said Jackson in a statement. “But, in the end, the decision rests with Gov. Blagojevich and I’m confident that he’ll make an appointment in the best interest of the state as well as the nation.”

Jackson’s case is strengthened by the fact that Obama is the only African-American member of the Senate. Presumably, Obama would like to see at least one African-American representative in the chamber.

Jackson also benefits from being co-chairman of Obama’s presidential campaign and a product of the same South Side Chicago political machine from which the Democratic nominee emerged.

Illinois political insiders, who declined to discuss the subject on the record for fear of appearing presumptuous before the results of the presidential race are known, say Obama would have a major hand in the decision.

But it’s not a slam-dunk for Jackson. Blagojevich must pick a candidate who can hold the seat in 2010, when the temporary two-year appointment would expire.

Some Democratic strategists question whether Jackson can win statewide.

“Jesse Jackson doesn’t make sense, he’s not electable statewide,” said a Democratic operative with ties to Illinois. “He’s a very left-of-center politician.”

Jackson supporters counter that he is no more liberal than Obama and note that he enjoys the support of many Republicans in his district.

Democrats in Schakowsky’s camp argue that she would run more successfully in Southern Illinois and tout her strong ties to the labor community. They also tout her energy and record of accomplishment in Congress. She is one of Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s (D-Calif.) closer friends.

Rep. Rahm Emanuel (Ill.), the Democratic Caucus chairman, has also been floated as a possible successor. But Emanuel and his staff have given little indication that he’s interested. Illinois political observers interviewed by The Hill said they believe Emanuel would prefer to climb the rungs of the House leadership.

Blagojevich may go outside the Illinois House delegation. One possible candidate would be Tammy Duckworth, director of the Illinois Department of Veterans’ Affairs. Duckworth, who is Asian-American, could serve as a compromise candidate on the race question.

Duckworth, an Iraq War veteran, could have appeal in conservative-leaning Southern Illinois because of her military record. She is also a protégé of Sen. Dick Durbin (D-Ill.), one of Obama’s most influential advisors.

Another possibility would be Emil Jones Jr., president of the Illinois Senate, whom some Chicago insiders credit with Obama’s rise through the state chamber.

Two other Democratic governors, Ruth Ann Minner of Delaware and Janet Napolitano, face similar quandaries depending on the outcome of the Nov. 4 election.

If Obama is elected president and Sen. Joe Biden (D-Del.) accedes to the vice presidency, Miner must appoint someone to fill Biden’s seat. Delaware political insiders say that Biden wants the seat, which he has held since 1972, to go to his son, Beau Biden. The catch is that Beau, the state’s attorney general, is expected to be in Iraq with the Army National Guard, if and when the

Biden resigns.

Miner must decide whether to appoint Biden’s son outright or instead pick a caretaker who would keep the seat warm and give it up voluntarily at the end of the two-year temporary appointment. Just as Obama in Illinois, Joe Biden is expected to have a big role in choosing his successor, and he is widely expected to pave the way for Beau, say several Delaware political experts who spoke on condition of anonymity.

The person most frequently mentioned as a caretaker appointee is Myron Steele, chief justice of the Delaware Supreme Court. Secretary of State Harriet Smith Windsor is another candidate who is seen as willing to make way for Beau in 2010.

Both Steele and Windsor are considered close to Joe Biden and viewed as relatively uninterested in a long Senate career.

Miner could appoint Beau outright, although that may bring murmured grumbles about nepotism. If the young Biden is not interested, however, Lieutenant Gov. John Carney Jr., who lost the recent gubernatorial primary, could be viable option, say Delaware insiders.

There’s a slim chance that Miner’s successor would make the pick. Her term expires on Jan. 20, the same day the next president and vice president of the U.S. are to be sworn in. If Biden waits until the last possible moment to resign, the next governor of Delaware, most likely Democratic state treasurer Jack Markell, would choose.

If John McCain, the GOP nominee, wins the White House, Napolitano faces an even trickier decision in Arizona. Unlike most states, Arizona law requires that Napolitano appoint someone from McCain’s party to fill his seat should he leave for the Oval Office.

Adding to the mix, Arizona political insiders speculate that Napolitano would like to run for Senate when term limits force her from office in 2010.

“If Sen. McCain were to resign, the governor would choose someone of the same party to fill out the remainder of his term,” said spokeswoman Shilo Mitchell.

One Arizona strategist said it is therefore in Napolitano’s interest to appoint a Republican successor who would be vulnerable to defeat in 2010. She could appoint a friendly Republican who might be willing to vacate the seat after two years, such as Kristin Mayes, whom Napolitano tapped for the Arizona Corporation Commission in 2003. Mayes, a lifelong Republican, once worked as Napolitano’s communications director.
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« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2008, 05:50:20 PM »

Jesse Jackson, Jr. and Al Franken, while two people that ought to be kept far, far away from the U.S. Senate for anyone that cares about conducting business like competent adults, would be two of the best fundraising subjects for the GOP for quite some time.
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« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2008, 05:52:10 PM »

Somehow, I suspect Blago will manage to make the worst pick possible.
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« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2008, 05:53:53 PM »

Somehow, I suspect Blago will manage to make the worst pick possible.

Blago for Senate!
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« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2008, 05:55:06 PM »

Somehow, I suspect Blago will manage to make the worst pick possible.

Blago for Senate!

I'm so tempted to say, "Thanks for the pickup in 2010!" but I remember that I said the same thing once Menendez was appointed...

We'd certainly have a good chance against him or Jackson though.
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« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2008, 05:56:14 PM »

Lord I hope Jackson doesn't get it....

That would make me vote Republican for Senate...and I really don't want to do that.
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« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2008, 05:59:26 PM »

Anyone else pulling for Tammy?
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« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2008, 06:01:51 PM »


That would be another great Blago pick...
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« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2008, 06:03:53 PM »


That would be another great Blago pick...

Why?  I saw her speech at the DNC and I didn't notice anything bad.  She lost a House race despite being endorsed by the Tribune during a Democratic landslide year, but not horribly.

Who should he pick?
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« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2008, 06:06:12 PM »


That would be another great Blago pick...

Why?  I saw her speech at the DNC and I didn't notice anything bad.  She lost a House race despite being endorsed by the Tribune during a Democratic landslide year, but not horribly.

Who should he pick?

Rahm Emanuel would have that seat for life.

Duckworth should have never lost that election last year.
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« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2008, 06:10:01 PM »


That would be another great Blago pick...

Why?  I saw her speech at the DNC and I didn't notice anything bad.  She lost a House race despite being endorsed by the Tribune during a Democratic landslide year, but not horribly.

Who should he pick?

Rahm Emanuel would have that seat for life.

Duckworth should have never lost that election last year.

Oh I agree on Rahm, but all indications are that he prefers being a leader in the House than a freshman in the Senate. 

If Rahm wants it, the seat is very likely his.
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« Reply #11 on: October 26, 2008, 06:15:15 PM »

The answer is obvious. Rosty!
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« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2008, 07:37:50 PM »

I think Rahm Emanuel would prefer to be Speaker of the House in a couple of years.
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« Reply #13 on: October 26, 2008, 07:38:01 PM »

I realize that there will be a lot of pressure to replace Obama with another black Senator, but I hope they pass on Jesse Jackson, Jr.  The far right media will go crazy and it will just be a distraction to everything they need to accomplish.

I hope they pick the most intelligent, competent candidate possible, whoever that is.  Senators need to be the most intelligent people in Washington, they have enormous responsibilities. Duckworth doesn't strike me as someone I'd want as a Senator.
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« Reply #14 on: October 26, 2008, 07:39:18 PM »

Somehow, I suspect Blago will manage to make the worst pick possible.

Blago for Senate!

I'm so tempted to say, "Thanks for the pickup in 2010!" but I remember that I said the same thing once Menendez was appointed...

We'd certainly have a good chance against him or Jackson though.

Dude, it's Illinois. Winning elections is not something the Illinois GOP does.
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« Reply #15 on: October 26, 2008, 07:53:44 PM »

I hope it is not Jackson. That would mean even MORE media exposure for Jackson Senior, who I feel has no place in the Democratic Party.

If Blago appoints Jesse Jr, I'm certainly not voting for him.
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« Reply #16 on: October 26, 2008, 07:56:40 PM »

Duckworth should have never lost that election last year.

I assume you mean because the tide was in her favor, and not because she made any case for herself as a candidate.
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« Reply #17 on: October 26, 2008, 09:17:11 PM »

My only real problem with Jesse Junior is his father. Jan Schakowsky is okay, I guess.  When I lived in Illinois, my Congresswoman was Cardiss Collins.  Danny Davis replaced her.  While Collins seemed to have a pretty strong handle on transportation issues, I don't know enough about Davis to comment.

He hasn't been in the House very long, but I like what I have heard of and from Bill Foster. And, as noted, Rahm Emmanuel is pretty impressive.

Is there a problem with Lisa Madigan or any of the other state office-holders?  More curious here than anything...
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« Reply #18 on: October 26, 2008, 11:58:34 PM »

Somehow, I suspect Blago will manage to make the worst pick possible.

Blago for Senate!

I'm so tempted to say, "Thanks for the pickup in 2010!" but I remember that I said the same thing once Menendez was appointed...

We'd certainly have a good chance against him or Jackson though.

Dude, it's Illinois. Winning elections is not something the Illinois GOP does.

I agree to an extent. Give me the usual midterm conditions and a Senator Blago or Jackson and we at least have a shot.
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« Reply #19 on: October 27, 2008, 12:45:50 AM »

The section of the article with anonymous Illinois Dems fretting about holding the seat in 2010 is rather laughable.  Anyone with a (D) after his or her name would hold this seat.  The 2006 gubernatorial race proves that.
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« Reply #20 on: October 27, 2008, 12:47:42 AM »

The section of the article with anonymous Illinois Dems fretting about holding the seat in 2010 is rather laughable.  Anyone with a (D) after his or her name would hold this seat.  The 2006 gubernatorial race proves that.

True, it'd be like the 2006 New York state Comptroller election, it wouldn't matter whom the Democratic nominated.
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« Reply #21 on: October 27, 2008, 12:57:01 AM »

The section of the article with anonymous Illinois Dems fretting about holding the seat in 2010 is rather laughable.  Anyone with a (D) after his or her name would hold this seat.  The 2006 gubernatorial race proves that.

It's not impossible that in 8 years that the GOP could beat Jackson in IL, moreso than the  rest of potential candidates.
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« Reply #22 on: October 27, 2008, 01:34:10 AM »

The section of the article with anonymous Illinois Dems fretting about holding the seat in 2010 is rather laughable.  Anyone with a (D) after his or her name would hold this seat.  The 2006 gubernatorial race proves that.
It's not impossible that in 8 years that the GOP could beat Jackson in IL, moreso than the  rest of potential candidates.

Not impossible, no, but that assumes that the GOP would even have a bench in the state at that point.  It's dwindling fast; could any Illinois Republican rise fast enough to challenge even the weakest Dem?  They're going to have Rep. Aaron Schock, who might have some future potential, but, really, the U.S. Senate is a bit ambitious for Illinois Republicans at this point.
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« Reply #23 on: October 27, 2008, 01:39:10 AM »

The section of the article with anonymous Illinois Dems fretting about holding the seat in 2010 is rather laughable.  Anyone with a (D) after his or her name would hold this seat.  The 2006 gubernatorial race proves that.
It's not impossible that in 8 years that the GOP could beat Jackson in IL, moreso than the  rest of potential candidates.

Not impossible, no, but that assumes that the GOP would even have a bench in the state at that point.  It's dwindling fast; could any Illinois Republican rise fast enough to challenge even the weakest Dem?  They're going to have Rep. Aaron Schock, who might have some future potential, but, really, the U.S. Senate is a bit ambitious for Illinois Republicans at this point.

Obviously their entire party sank to crap a few years ago and it was at it's complete bottom a couple years ago and hasn't really recovered from that. 

Supposing you're not hiring your political enemy (which Blago is relatively likely to do - remove a primary challenge for governor), and you're appointing someone young, you want to appoint someone who can win the seat for life.  Jesse Jackson is not a 20 year senator. 
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« Reply #24 on: October 27, 2008, 01:52:58 AM »

Obviously their entire party sank to crap a few years ago and it was at it's complete bottom a couple years ago

Nope, still not there yet.

Getting there.  Grubb-Barthwell '1O!
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