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Mr. Morden
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« on: October 27, 2008, 06:55:01 PM »

Just curious.....is there any kind of table anywhere out there that indicates what percentage of each country's population is made up of racial minorities?  Or at least for Western countries?

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« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2008, 07:24:10 PM »

I had one of these literally three days ago.  Let me look.
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« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2008, 09:18:14 PM »

I know Australia is second to Israel amongst western countries for % born overseas and/or % born overseas or parent....


...but many of those are British, and a significant majority are European of some sort. We do have the largest Tamil population outside of Asia though Smiley
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« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2008, 03:53:41 PM »

Scotland is pretty homogenous. The 2001 census is vastly out of date. Howver information on births is interesting.

In 1987, the % of births to a Scottish born mother was 86.1. For an English born mother it was 8.1.
In 2007 the breakdown is as follows

Scotland 78.4
England 9.2
Poland 1.6
Pakistan 1.1
Northern Ireland 0.9
Germany 0.7
India 0.6
Ireland 0.5

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« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2008, 04:16:32 PM »

The way they measured this in the census is ridiculous, but anyway (2006):

Asked by which "Ethnic group" you belonged to the responses were:

Irish 87.37%
Irish Traveller 0.54% (#1: LOL not an Ethnic group, a complete sop to the worst sort of leftie identity politics that they are counted and #2 I doubt it is anything like this high anyway.)
"Other White" 6.93% (See what the problem is?)
"African" 0.97%
"Other Black" 0.09%
Chinese 0.4%
"Other Asian" 0.86%
"Mixed" 1.1%
DNS 1.73%

These are best figures I can find (I imagine Jas has better ones). But you may see the point now of the old Irish demographer joke that along with Ulysses the greatest works of fiction produced in Ireland are the national censuses.
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« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2008, 04:57:42 PM »

Canada 2006: http://www12.statcan.ca/english/census06/data/highlights/ethnic/pages/Page.cfm?Lang=E&Geo=PR&Code=01&Data=Count&Table=2&StartRec=1&Sort=3&Display=All&CSDFilter=5000

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« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2008, 06:38:33 PM »

The way they measured this in the census is ridiculous, but anyway (2006):

Asked by which "Ethnic group" you belonged to the responses were:

Irish 87.37%
Irish Traveller 0.54% (#1: LOL not an Ethnic group, a complete sop to the worst sort of leftie identity politics that they are counted and #2 I doubt it is anything like this high anyway.)
"Other White" 6.93% (See what the problem is?)
"African" 0.97%
"Other Black" 0.09%
Chinese 0.4%
"Other Asian" 0.86%
"Mixed" 1.1%
DNS 1.73%

These are best figures I can find (I imagine Jas has better ones). But you may see the point now of the old Irish demographer joke that along with Ulysses the greatest works of fiction produced in Ireland are the national censuses.


     What specifically do they mean by "Irish traveller?"
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« Reply #7 on: October 28, 2008, 06:40:47 PM »

The way they measured this in the census is ridiculous, but anyway (2006):

Asked by which "Ethnic group" you belonged to the responses were:

Irish 87.37%
Irish Traveller 0.54% (#1: LOL not an Ethnic group, a complete sop to the worst sort of leftie identity politics that they are counted and #2 I doubt it is anything like this high anyway.)
"Other White" 6.93% (See what the problem is?)
"African" 0.97%
"Other Black" 0.09%
Chinese 0.4%
"Other Asian" 0.86%
"Mixed" 1.1%
DNS 1.73%

These are best figures I can find (I imagine Jas has better ones). But you may see the point now of the old Irish demographer joke that along with Ulysses the greatest works of fiction produced in Ireland are the national censuses.


     What specifically do they mean by "Irish traveller?"

Wiki will save you here.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Travellers
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« Reply #8 on: October 28, 2008, 06:58:23 PM »

The way they measured this in the census is ridiculous, but anyway (2006):

Asked by which "Ethnic group" you belonged to the responses were:

Irish 87.37%
Irish Traveller 0.54% (#1: LOL not an Ethnic group, a complete sop to the worst sort of leftie identity politics that they are counted and #2 I doubt it is anything like this high anyway.)
"Other White" 6.93% (See what the problem is?)
"African" 0.97%
"Other Black" 0.09%
Chinese 0.4%
"Other Asian" 0.86%
"Mixed" 1.1%
DNS 1.73%

These are best figures I can find (I imagine Jas has better ones). But you may see the point now of the old Irish demographer joke that along with Ulysses the greatest works of fiction produced in Ireland are the national censuses.


     What specifically do they mean by "Irish traveller?"

Wiki will save you here.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Travellers

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« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2008, 06:14:32 AM »

The way they measured this in the census is ridiculous, but anyway (2006):

Asked by which "Ethnic group" you belonged to the responses were:

Irish 87.37%
Irish Traveller 0.54% (#1: LOL not an Ethnic group, a complete sop to the worst sort of leftie identity politics that they are counted and #2 I doubt it is anything like this high anyway.)
"Other White" 6.93% (See what the problem is?)
"African" 0.97%
"Other Black" 0.09%
Chinese 0.4%
"Other Asian" 0.86%
"Mixed" 1.1%
DNS 1.73%

These are best figures I can find (I imagine Jas has better ones). But you may see the point now of the old Irish demographer joke that along with Ulysses the greatest works of fiction produced in Ireland are the national censuses.

Yes, the ethnic group thing is a shambles. It is unfortuntely the closest thing available to answer the question asked.

Tables on population by place of birth (here) and nationality (here) may be of some interest; and indeed the CSO's report on non-nationals in Ireland (here *warning: large file*) which includes profiles on the 10 largest non-Irish national populations in the country.
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« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2008, 06:31:12 AM »

For Austria it's very simple:

90% are Austrians and 10% foreigners. Of the 10% (860.000) who are foreigners, about 300.000 are from the former Yugoslavia, 130.000 from Germany and 110.000 from Turkey.

But I should also note that lots of Turks and (former) Yugoslavs, who came to Austria between 1960 and 2008 are now naturalized citizens.

Therefore I would estimate that about 500.000 naturalized Turks live in Austria and the same amount of people from former Yugoslavia.
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« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2008, 12:32:53 PM »

It's around 9-11% for the whole UK, I believe.
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« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2008, 12:33:43 AM »

Well yeah, I can look up the individual countries one by one, but I was hoping there was just a table somewhere.  OK, let me rephrase the question: The reason I was thinking about this was because I was thinking that Obama, assuming he wins on Tuesday, will probably be the first racial minority elected head of government in a Western country.  (Will he be?  Or is there someone else who I'm forgetting?)  Of course since (I think, not sure about this) the US has a larger minority population than any other Western country, it was statistically more likely to happen there first.

So I was wondering what might be the second Western country to elect a racial minority as head of government......which led me to ask the question "Which Western country has the largest fraction of its population made up of racial minorities (excepting the US)?"  Anyone know the answer to *that* question?

[For the purposes of this thread, I define "Western countries" as those countries in Western Europe, plus the US, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand.]

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« Reply #13 on: November 02, 2008, 02:16:14 AM »

Using Wikipedia's demographic data, here's a list of interesting countries:

1. United States: 34% minority (includes Hispanic whites)
2. New Zealand: 20% (includes Maori, Asian and Pacific Islanders, but not other minorities)
3. Canada: 16% ("visible minorities" only; i.e. non-whites)
4. Australia: 15% (non-European descent)
5. United Kingdom: 14% (only non-whites)
6. Netherlands: 13% (only non-whites)
7. France: 9% (only non-Europeans, but includes self-IDed white North Africans)
8. Germany: 4% (only non-whites)
9. Spain: ~3% (difficult to estimate due to ambiguous status of part-Native Latin Americans, much, much higher if all Latin Americans are considered minority, could be in between if only those self-IDed as non-white are included)
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« Reply #14 on: November 03, 2008, 10:12:52 PM »

It's around 9-11% for the whole UK, I believe.
It's about 10% who're foreign-born, I believe. That's not including natural born minorities...
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« Reply #15 on: November 03, 2008, 10:34:26 PM »

Using Wikipedia's demographic data, here's a list of interesting countries:

1. United States: 34% minority (includes Hispanic whites)
2. New Zealand: 20% (includes Maori, Asian and Pacific Islanders, but not other minorities)
3. Canada: 16% ("visible minorities" only; i.e. non-whites)
4. Australia: 15% (non-European descent)
5. United Kingdom: 14% (only non-whites)
6. Netherlands: 13% (only non-whites)
7. France: 9% (only non-Europeans, but includes self-IDed white North Africans)
8. Germany: 4% (only non-whites)
9. Spain: ~3% (difficult to estimate due to ambiguous status of part-Native Latin Americans, much, much higher if all Latin Americans are considered minority, could be in between if only those self-IDed as non-white are included)

...and New Zealand is the only other western country I could see elecing a non-european PM any time soon. Australia and Canada could probably elect someone of non-typical but still European descent though.
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« Reply #16 on: November 03, 2008, 11:47:37 PM »

Using Wikipedia's demographic data, here's a list of interesting countries:

1. United States: 34% minority (includes Hispanic whites)
2. New Zealand: 20% (includes Maori, Asian and Pacific Islanders, but not other minorities)
3. Canada: 16% ("visible minorities" only; i.e. non-whites)
4. Australia: 15% (non-European descent)
5. United Kingdom: 14% (only non-whites)
6. Netherlands: 13% (only non-whites)
7. France: 9% (only non-Europeans, but includes self-IDed white North Africans)
8. Germany: 4% (only non-whites)
9. Spain: ~3% (difficult to estimate due to ambiguous status of part-Native Latin Americans, much, much higher if all Latin Americans are considered minority, could be in between if only those self-IDed as non-white are included)

...and New Zealand is the only other western country I could see elecing a non-european PM any time soon. Australia and Canada could probably elect someone of non-typical but still European descent though.

Our Governor General is black, what more do you want?

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