True or False: If McCain fails to win Pennsylvania, he has lost the election.
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« Reply #25 on: November 02, 2008, 08:43:24 PM »

It's called a "Bradley Effect."  How much, if any, that will be is questionable.  We'll find out in about 48 hours.

Okay, so a McCain victory requires public polling to utterly fail due to an unproven phenomena that must occur with a multiple point magnitude in at least three different states.
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« Reply #26 on: November 02, 2008, 09:04:43 PM »

JJ = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance
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« Reply #27 on: November 02, 2008, 09:14:34 PM »

McCain has no realistic path that adds to 270. McCain can talk all he want about how competitive this race is. It doesn't make it so. We're looking at a 1996 style map with a few states flipped in each direction.

A McCain victory basically requires public polling to utterly fail. Obama has lead in the past 20 polls in Colorado as well as the past 46 polls in PA.

It's called a "Bradley Effect."  How much, if any, that will be is questionable.  We'll find out in about 48 hours.

Undecideds who claim they "don't know enough" about Obama are very, very likely not voting for him because he's black. Note that these people are not saying they'll vote Obama: they're saying they're undecided when they actually know full well they're going to vote McCain... that is, if they're willing to spend 3-4 hours waiting in line. Is this a Bradley Effect? I'm not sure.
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« Reply #28 on: November 02, 2008, 09:15:25 PM »

PA is the ONLY path for McCain.  Colorado is already gone.  McCain has 2 days not 2 months.

Both Pennsylvania and Colorado are gone.  So is Virginia.  McCain has no realistic path to electoral victory.
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« Reply #29 on: November 02, 2008, 09:20:01 PM »

It's called a "Bradley Effect."  How much, if any, that will be is questionable.  We'll find out in about 48 hours.

Okay, so a McCain victory requires public polling to utterly fail due to an unproven phenomena that must occur with a multiple point magnitude in at least three different states.


Well, it did occur arguably in 1982 and in 1989.  It also seems to have occurred in three states in 2006.  Sorry, but there is evidence that it does occur.  The question is, does it still exist and how great is it?
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« Reply #30 on: November 02, 2008, 09:24:38 PM »

Also, this puts McCain over the top:


Heh, that took me a minute.

Scary thing is, two political gurus tried to tell me in August it could happen.  Gurus are so overrated.
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« Reply #31 on: November 02, 2008, 09:27:38 PM »

False, but PA is one of two paths to victory (not the one I predicted).
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« Reply #32 on: November 02, 2008, 09:29:25 PM »

McCain has no realistic path that adds to 270. McCain can talk all he want about how competitive this race is. It doesn't make it so. We're looking at a 1996 style map with a few states flipped in each direction.

If it's really that clear-cut, why don't you just go away and spare us the need to respond to this drivel?
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« Reply #33 on: November 02, 2008, 09:31:33 PM »

McCain has no realistic path that adds to 270. McCain can talk all he want about how competitive this race is. It doesn't make it so. We're looking at a 1996 style map with a few states flipped in each direction.

If it's really that clear-cut, why don't you just go away and spare us the need to respond to this drivel?

And miss the fun of gloating? Not a chance Tongue
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« Reply #34 on: November 02, 2008, 09:38:23 PM »

McCain has no realistic path that adds to 270. McCain can talk all he want about how competitive this race is. It doesn't make it so. We're looking at a 1996 style map with a few states flipped in each direction.

If it's really that clear-cut, why don't you just go away and spare us the need to respond to this drivel?

And miss the fun of gloating? Not a chance Tongue

How about leaving and coming back on 11/5?  Smiley
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