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« Reply #75 on: September 25, 2004, 09:55:20 am »
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The point is, gay people are trying to force everyone else to recognize their lifestyle as "marriage." Not their right.
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« Reply #76 on: September 25, 2004, 03:25:10 pm »
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I never thought of bovine taxonomy as analogous to shifting perceptions of marriage, Philip.

By the way, Brambila, isn't the Family Research Institute run by Gary Bauer? I suppose it can't be any less credible than that "liberal" APA. In addition, where did you get that definition of marriage? God? I think he has bigger fish to fry than to convey what marriage is to His chosen ones.

Migrendel, I don't invalidate sepecific APA studies on the premis that they are liberal. I tell you the reason why the study is invalid. For instance, the famous APA-sponsored twin study was done in a gay region of San Francisco, and was voulentary. The study was obviously inaccurately done. However, if one were to simply put up the argument "The APA says homosexuality is normal, and therefore it is", by simple counter argument will be "Seeing that the APA is a homosexual-run organization, that's not a very honest organization to judge by".

Nonetheless, the other source I provided (Kinsey Institute) is definately a secular source for the statistics.
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« Reply #77 on: September 25, 2004, 03:26:50 pm »
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Because divorce is set up to favor the person that's been faithful throughout the marriage. If a lesbian becomes a Christian and wants to turn her life around, she shouldn't face that.

More importantly, MARRIAGE IS A FUNDAMENTAL INSTITUTION OF HUMANITY!

Wrong. Anthropological studies have found several civilizations who have no institution of marriage.

Of course they had marriage. They didn't have the same marriage as we see, but they saw the life-long bond between a man and a woman.
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« Reply #78 on: September 25, 2004, 03:59:39 pm »
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Because divorce is set up to favor the person that's been faithful throughout the marriage. If a lesbian becomes a Christian and wants to turn her life around, she shouldn't face that.

More importantly, MARRIAGE IS A FUNDAMENTAL INSTITUTION OF HUMANITY!

Wrong. Anthropological studies have found several civilizations who have no institution of marriage.

Of course they had marriage. They didn't have the same marriage as we see, but they saw the life-long bond between a man and a woman.
The situation is more complec than that.
Polygamist relationships has been and are still quite common around the world.
A variation of a matrimonical society where the children live with the mothers family while the father returns to his family still exists in Indonesia.
The idea of a family being "Mother, Father and children" is a Victorian invention and the patrimonical society did only come into effect in the Nordic countries after Christianity became the dominant religion
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« Reply #79 on: September 25, 2004, 04:02:50 pm »
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That's it. Next we'll have Jim Crow laws for gay people.

We'll have signs saying "No F@ggot Room" and "F@ggot Water Fountain" and "F@ggot Park".

But only in the south. Why?
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« Reply #80 on: September 25, 2004, 04:58:20 pm »
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The point is conseratives just don't like gay people.  

Well, its more that religious people don't like gay people.  God told them so, etc.   A good libertarian right winger wouldn't have any interest in another person's private sexual behaviours.. except perhaps for a purely prurient one. Wink
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