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« on: November 05, 2008, 12:20:09 am »
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Obama got destroyed in Georgia. What the hell happened?
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« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2008, 01:01:45 am »
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Quote from: StatesRights on November 05, 2008, 12:20:09 am
Obama got destroyed in Georgia. What the hell happened?

Not sure...
Looks like he lost the male vote big... (57-40)
Looks like he also did not carry the young vote as impressively as in other states (lost 18-29 age group 50-49)

He also got slaughtered in the white vote.  He won the black vote 98-2, but lost the white vote 74-23.

His performance among last day deciders was poor too.  Lost that group 53-43.




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This would be the major thing:
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DEM - 37%
GOP - 35%
IND - 28%

DEM went 92-8 for Obama
GOP went 94-5 for McCain
IND went 54-41 for McCain


Looks like the independents killed him...
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« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2008, 01:17:51 am »
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WTF, a single-digit loss in a state like Georgia and that's being destroyed now?
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« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2008, 01:22:40 am »
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No, the question you should be asking is what the hell happened to McCain in Pennsylvania? It was a state he camped out in, but lost by New Jersey margins.
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« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2008, 01:27:54 am »
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Some of the margins are very interesting, if they hold. Big swings to Obama in blue states, with big swings to McCain in some red states.
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« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2008, 01:29:07 am »
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WTF, a single-digit loss in a state like Georgia and that's being destroyed now?

It's tightened since I made this thread. McCain was up by 11% earlier.
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« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2008, 01:37:54 am »
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McCain at only 53% is actually a rather poor showing.
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« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2008, 01:40:52 am »
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McCain got destroyed in Pennsylvania. What the hell happened?
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« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2008, 01:43:25 am »
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lol this thread
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« Reply #9 on: November 05, 2008, 01:46:33 am »
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McCain got destroyed in Pennsylvania. What the hell happened?

Suburban Philadelphia happened.  McCain can maybe take solace in that he ran ahead of his state numbers in Bucks.  (The Lehigh Valley wasn't kind either).
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« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2008, 01:51:00 am »
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This was my biggest surprise of the night. Please feel free to bash me, but I thought for sure his race would be within 2% or 3%.

Black voting percentage seems like it really dropped off on Election Day. Obama's early voting numbers looked great.
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« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2008, 01:52:58 am »
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What I am having trouble with is how, exactly, McCain is managing to maintain 47% in the popular vote.  I guess it makes sense but it seems like he should be alot worse off.
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« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2008, 01:53:51 am »
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Quote from: Edu on November 05, 2008, 01:43:25 am
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Sorry but all the polls had this as a much closer state then it ended up being.
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« Reply #13 on: November 05, 2008, 01:59:56 am »
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This is why:

http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/stories/2008/11/04/georgia_presidential_voting.html
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With nearly 90 percent of the state’s precincts reporting, McCain had a huge lead: 56 percent to 44 percent for Obama and less than 1 percent for Libertarian Party nominee Bob Barr, the former Georgia congressman. But those figures included fewer results from metro Atlanta and apparently none of the ballots cast in metro Atlanta during massive early and advance voting. More than 600,000 ballots cast before Tuesday in Cobb, Fulton, DeKalb and Gwinnett were to be counted after the live Tuesday votes.


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Fulton and Gwinnett Counties failed to include any advance votes in their election totals by 11 p.m. Tuesday night.

Officials at the Secretary of States office confirmed to WSB-TV Channel 2 that the votes were not being included in early returns.

If none of those are being counted yet, then the 7 point game it currently stands at will definitely contract. I expect a 4 point McCain win in the end.
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« Reply #14 on: November 05, 2008, 02:00:40 am »
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Quote from: StatesRights on November 05, 2008, 12:20:09 am
McCain got destroyed in Pennsylvania. What the hell happened?

Suburban Philadelphia happened.  McCain can maybe take solace in that he ran ahead of his state numbers in Bucks.  (The Lehigh Valley wasn't kind either).

It would seem so, since Obama's share of the vote in the Southwest seems to have gone down as compared to Kerry.
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« Reply #15 on: November 05, 2008, 02:02:37 am »
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Quote from: Edu on November 05, 2008, 01:43:25 am
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Sorry but all the polls had this as a much closer state then it ended up being.

"Much closer"? No, not really (unless you take garbage like InsiderAdvantage seriously).
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« Reply #16 on: November 05, 2008, 02:27:09 am »
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Apparently a bunch of the early votes haven't been counted yet.  I just read on Kos that Martin is now within .3% of Chambliss.
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« Reply #17 on: November 05, 2008, 02:42:47 am »
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I think the Senate race is 0.3% away from a runoff instead of 0.3% from a tie (you need 50% in Georgia, and a third party candidate is getting about 3% of the vote). 
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« Reply #18 on: November 05, 2008, 03:50:19 am »
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Per fivethirtyeight.com: "Some very weird things are going on in Georgia, as the total vote is much, much lower than expected. Some speculation has the early vote not being counted"

The site (currently) provides no evidence for this speculation; however, only about 3.6 million votes comprise the current tally.
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« Reply #19 on: November 05, 2008, 03:52:55 am »
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Per fivethirtyeight.com: "Some very weird things are going on in Georgia, as the total vote is much, much lower than expected. Some speculation has the early vote not being counted."

The site (currently) provides no evidence for this speculation; however, only about 3.6 million votes comprise the current tally.

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