Georgia Senate Run-off: Chambliss vs. Martin

[Хahar 🤔]

Chambliss 53-55%

[agcatter]

This is the Republican's filibuster firewall and they won't lose it.  That said. 60 votes is more symbolic than anything else.  Filibuster votes will have to be cobbled out issue by issue and won't be total party line votes- fairness doctrine no doubt would be but there is no guarantee on other issues that Republicans could keep 41 of their caucus together.  On most issues they no doubt could not -would have to rely on certain crossovers - Webb and Nelson (Neb) on guns for example.

[Sam Spade]

Guess who showed up at today's McCain rally for Chambliss...

http://www.politico.com/blogs/scorecard/1108/McCain_Go_into_battle_one_more_time_for_Chambliss.html

[Lunar]

Miller's not doing much these days.  Good to hear

[Mr.Phips]

This is the Republican's filibuster firewall and they won't lose it.  That said. 60 votes is more symbolic than anything else.  Filibuster votes will have to be cobbled out issue by issue and won't be total party line votes- fairness doctrine no doubt would be but there is no guarantee on other issues that Republicans could keep 41 of their caucus together.  On most issues they no doubt could not -would have to rely on certain crossovers - Webb and Nelson (Neb) on guns for example.

Democrats aint going to touch guns again. 

[Mr.Phips]

Miller's not doing much these days.  Good to hear

The strange thing is that Miller is doing this for Chambliss after he ran ads strongly supporting Cleland and attacking Chambliss' attacks in 2002.  Talk about a flip-flopper. 

[Lunar]

Miller's not doing much these days.  Good to hear

The strange thing is that Miller is doing this for Chambliss after he ran ads strongly supporting Cleland and attacking Chambliss' attacks in 2002.  Talk about a flip-flopper. 

Well then it's fitting he showed up to the McCain-for-Chambliss rally.

[agcatter]

Guns was just a hypothetical example.  Fairness doctrine and card check are the biggest candidates for filibuster and it would be those two that would be most likely successfully filibustered for sure primarily because the Dems would lose some of their own on these two issues.

[Mr.Phips]

Guns was just a hypothetical example.  Fairness doctrine and card check are the biggest candidates for filibuster and it would be those two that would be most likely successfully filibustered for sure primarily because the Dems would lose some of their own on these two issues.

Neither of those would ever pass. 

[Lief 🗽]

From Sam's link:

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[Хahar 🤔]

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He's so consistent!

[??????????]

Guns was just a hypothetical example.  Fairness doctrine and card check are the biggest candidates for filibuster and it would be those two that would be most likely successfully filibustered for sure primarily because the Dems would lose some of their own on these two issues.

Neither of those would ever pass. 

Never say never with lunatics like Reid and Pelosi at the head of the Titanic.

[Mr.Phips]

Guns was just a hypothetical example.  Fairness doctrine and card check are the biggest candidates for filibuster and it would be those two that would be most likely successfully filibustered for sure primarily because the Dems would lose some of their own on these two issues.

Neither of those would ever pass. 

Never say never with lunatics like Reid and Pelosi at the head of the Titanic.

You may not like their views on most issues, but neither of them are stupid. 

[??????????]

Guns was just a hypothetical example.  Fairness doctrine and card check are the biggest candidates for filibuster and it would be those two that would be most likely successfully filibustered for sure primarily because the Dems would lose some of their own on these two issues.

Neither of those would ever pass. 

Never say never with lunatics like Reid and Pelosi at the head of the Titanic.

You may not like their views on most issues, but neither of them are stupid. 

I never said they were stupid. I said they were lunatics, a vast difference in terms.

[Meeker]

FYI: Early voting starts on Monday.

[JohnnyLongtorso]

FYI: Early voting starts on Monday.

Great, so it's going to take a week after the election to find out who won.

[kevinatcausa]

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Both quotes are consistent with what McCain said during the second debate: "So we're going to have to tell the American people that spending is going to have to be cut in America. And I recommend a spending freeze that -- except for defense, Veterans Affairs, and some other vital programs, we'll just have to have across-the-board freeze."

So he just wants to cut non-defense related spending. 

[Lunar]

I think Martin has a chance if Obama commits.

Obama is worried about publicly committing for two reasons:
1) If Martin still loses, then Obama will lose some political capital
2) And no matter who wins, it will make Obama less friendly with the Senate Republicans - the extra vote gained might not be worth it.

Thus the inclination of Obama do simply do all of his support under-the-table.  However, Martin's campaign is trying to force Obama's hand by publicly and repeatedly requesting Obama's presence.  Obama will hurt his capital among Senate Democrats now if he does nothing, so I expect at least one Obama rally in Atlanta.

[Mr.Phips]

I think Martin has a chance if Obama commits.

Obama is worried about publicly committing for two reasons:
1) If Martin still loses, then Obama will lose some political capital
2) And no matter who wins, it will make Obama less friendly with the Senate Republicans - the extra vote gained might not be worth it.

Thus the inclination of Obama do simply do all of his support under-the-table.  However, Martin's campaign is trying to force Obama's hand by publicly and repeatedly requesting Obama's presence.  Obama will hurt his capital among Senate Democrats now if he does nothing, so I expect at least one Obama rally in Atlanta.

If he did anything, the one thing he could do is probably do a rally in Atlanta the night before the election. 

[??????????]

I doubt it will matter Phips. I expect conservatives to turn out in droves to prevent the 60 seat US death penalty.

[Democratic Hawk]

Chambliss

[The Populist]

Sadly, the scumbag Chambliss is going to win, 54-46.

[Rococo4]

Chambliss w around 52%

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

Chambliss.  Martin will lose his Obama bump.

[RosettaStoned]

I was really hoping shameless would lose.