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« on: November 11, 2008, 06:20:47 pm »
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Any Catholics or other angel enthusiasts care to help me out here?
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« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2008, 06:29:26 pm »
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     All I remember is that Seraphim are the highest order while Cherubim are the second highest. I used to know about these sorts of things though.
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« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2008, 12:23:15 pm »
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May I recommend Dr. C. Fred Dickason's book, Angels: Elect and Evil?

I believe it is a Moody Press publication.
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« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2008, 12:30:49 pm »
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Both are words in Hebrew. Cherubim are higher and more important then Seraphim, in the Jewish angelic hierarchy Cherubim is 5th rank (out of ten) and Seraphim only 9th.
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« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2008, 01:10:49 pm »
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Both are words in Hebrew. Cherubim are higher and more important then Seraphim, in the Jewish angelic hierarchy Cherubim is 5th rank (out of ten) and Seraphim only 9th.


     So what I remembered I didn't even remember right. Perhaps I should brush up on my knowledge of angels. Tongue
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« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2008, 04:22:17 pm »
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Both are words in Hebrew. Cherubim are higher and more important then Seraphim, in the Jewish angelic hierarchy Cherubim is 5th rank (out of ten) and Seraphim only 9th.


     So what I remembered I didn't even remember right. Perhaps I should brush up on my knowledge of angels. Tongue

It's different in the Christian angelic hierarchy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_angelic_hierarchy

Also, it appears that dunn got it backwards for the Jewish hierarchy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_angelic_hierarchy
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« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2008, 07:56:26 pm »
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Seraphim are the highest order of angels in most Christian theology.  They are the closest beings to God, being radiant with light and fire (symbols of God's presence).  Michael is a seraphim, and his name means "Who is like God?" (anytime you see "El" in a name, you know the name is somehow related to God, as God is "El")  Seraphim have a variety of roles they are "tasked" to, and I believe there are nine, in total:  Michael, Raphael, Gabriel, Uriel... and I can't remember the others.

Contrary to the popular image, Cheribim are actually warriors and protectors, under Michael.  They aren't cute and cuddly.
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« Reply #7 on: November 15, 2008, 08:00:27 pm »
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Oh, Lucifer was also a Seraphim.
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« Reply #8 on: November 15, 2008, 08:07:51 pm »
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Both are words in Hebrew. Cherubim are higher and more important then Seraphim, in the Jewish angelic hierarchy Cherubim is 5th rank (out of ten) and Seraphim only 9th.


     So what I remembered I didn't even remember right. Perhaps I should brush up on my knowledge of angels. Tongue

It's different in the Christian angelic hierarchy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_angelic_hierarchy

Also, it appears that dunn got it backwards for the Jewish hierarchy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_angelic_hierarchy

     Yay, I was actually right! Grin
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« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2008, 01:26:37 am »
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Angels? Seriously? C'mon......
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« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2008, 11:53:43 am »
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Is ther a heirarchy of demons, too?
All of these hierarchies seem like something out of Arianism.
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« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2008, 03:21:56 pm »
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Is ther a heirarchy of demons, too?
All of these hierarchies seem like something out of Arianism.

Actually, they are deeply imbeded in early Jewish tradition, and in terms of Christian theory, much of it comes from very early Church writers who were not, as far as I know, Arians.
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« Reply #12 on: November 16, 2008, 03:22:38 pm »
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Angels? Seriously? C'mon......

I'm sure some of them think the same about you.

Scratch that, many did think the same about you, and they followed Satan to Hell.
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« Reply #13 on: November 16, 2008, 04:04:36 pm »
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Angels? Seriously? C'mon......

I'm sure some of them think the same about you.

Scratch that, many did think the same about you, and they followed Satan to Hell.

I often wonder whether we've got this religion thing wrong and are actually worshipping the wrong deity, Satan always seemed alot cooler.
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« Reply #14 on: November 17, 2008, 01:33:41 am »
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Angels? Seriously? C'mon......

I'm sure some of them think the same about you.

Scratch that, many did think the same about you, and they followed Satan to Hell.

And they all lived happily ever after....
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« Reply #15 on: November 17, 2008, 03:03:31 am »
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Angels? Seriously? C'mon......

I'm sure some of them think the same about you.

Scratch that, many did think the same about you, and they followed Satan to Hell.

And they all lived happily ever after....

I'm sorry.  Did any of us ask you to be a part of this conversation?  Did anyone here drag you into it and demand that you listen to our religious views in an attempt to try to convert the heathen?

No.

So why did you feel the need to join the conversation?
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« Reply #16 on: November 17, 2008, 11:52:03 am »
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I'm free to post on any thread that I choose. I do not need your invitation.
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« Reply #17 on: November 17, 2008, 02:33:57 pm »
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I'm free to post on any thread that I choose. I do not need your invitation.

Being able to do what you want doesn't mean that's you should.  I don't understand why you feel the need to come in here and mock us.  Does it make you feel better about yourself?
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« Reply #18 on: November 17, 2008, 03:42:29 pm »
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I call bs when I see it. I'm not mocking you personally, but if you start talking about angels the discourse gets silly.
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« Reply #19 on: November 17, 2008, 06:54:13 pm »
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I call bs when I see it. I'm not mocking you personally, but if you start talking about angels the discourse gets silly.

Oh, and why is that?  Or, rather, why do you assume that?
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