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« on: November 12, 2008, 12:04:24 am »
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Give SPECIFIC reasons and list the poor decisions he made.
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« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2008, 12:33:40 am »
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LBJ

-Failed War on Poverty
-Political Opportunist
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« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2008, 12:35:46 am »
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Which Bush?
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« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2008, 12:38:36 am »
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LBJ

-Failed War on Poverty
-Political Opportunist

By failed I assume you mean that the national poverty rate is higher today than it was before those policies were implemented? Because presumably that'd be the first statistic to look at in determining that.

That being said, there were certainly things I didn't like about him either, but I still think he was pretty vastly underrated, at least by a lot of people who look only at Vietnam. He was very old school even for his time, which got him into a lot of unnecessary trouble.

I voted Bush 43, though he was far from the worst President of all time as many have suggested. Quite several that were worse in the 1800's and early 1900's.
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« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2008, 01:31:38 am »
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I go with Reagan, for establishing the whole tax-and-don't spend mentality.

On the plus side, it makes the Democrats the fiscally responsible party.
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« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2008, 07:43:22 am »
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Bush.
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- Wrecked US budget by turning surplus into biggest deficit ever.
- Wrecked US standing in the world with failed diplomatic and war policies.

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« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2008, 03:49:26 pm »
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Bush. Although I am happy he's caused massive long-term damage to the Republican party.
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« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2008, 03:51:05 pm »
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George W. Bush has wrecked our international reputation, bogged us down in two wars, and had done nothing to confront a host of other issues.
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« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2008, 03:55:20 pm »
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Reagan, due to the reason that Xahar already said as well as his creation of international crisises rather than extiguishing them.
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« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2008, 03:56:17 pm »
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Easily Bush. Outside of increasing funding to fight HIV, I can't think of a single effective decision he has made. Tax cuts for the wealthy, cronyism, Iraq, aversion to alternative energy other than the epic fail ethanol... Nixon, OTOH, is one of the most highly underrated presidents. If you can get past Watergate (which can be troublesome) he wasn't bad at all.
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« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2008, 04:12:15 pm »
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Carter:

Malaise
Stagflation
Energy Crisis
Rejection of the Shah
Supporting rebels in Afghanistan (I realize Reagan continued this policy, and it's a black mark on his record, also.)
Budget Deficit
Inability to manage and delegate.

W. has been pretty bad, but Carter takes the cake, in my opinion.
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« Reply #11 on: November 12, 2008, 04:27:50 pm »
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Carter:

Malaise
Stagflation
Energy Crisis
Rejection of the Shah
Supporting rebels in Afghanistan (I realize Reagan continued this policy, and it's a black mark on his record, also.)
Budget Deficit
Inability to manage and delegate.

W. has been pretty bad, but Carter takes the cake, in my opinion.


Carter, for all the reasons stated above.
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« Reply #12 on: November 12, 2008, 06:23:57 pm »
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Carter:

Malaise
Stagflation
Energy Crisis
Rejection of the Shah
Supporting rebels in Afghanistan (I realize Reagan continued this policy, and it's a black mark on his record, also.)
Budget Deficit
Inability to manage and delegate.

W. has been pretty bad, but Carter takes the cake, in my opinion.


Carter, for all the reasons stated above.

Same here.
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Bush. Although I am happy he's caused massive long-term damage to the Republican party.

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I vote for Reagan for giving a politically popular voice to an asinine economic concept that, for some time, was the basis for winning presidential elections. Reagan effectively, and maybe proudly used the ignorance of the American public to push through his corporatist agenda. the arms race is also a factor.
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I vote for Reagan for giving a politically popular voice to an asinine economic concept that, for some time, was the basis for winning presidential elections. Reagan effectively, and maybe proudly used the ignorance of the American public to push through his corporatist agenda. the arms race is also a factor.

Hate on the man that won the cold war?
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« Reply #16 on: November 12, 2008, 10:58:03 pm »
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I vote for Reagan for giving a politically popular voice to an asinine economic concept that, for some time, was the basis for winning presidential elections. Reagan effectively, and maybe proudly used the ignorance of the American public to push through his corporatist agenda. the arms race is also a factor.

Hate on the man that won the cold war?

Reagan didn't win the cold war any more than the Presidents preceding him dating back to Ike.... 

Iran-Contra (one of the largest scandals in our nation's history, that doesn't get the attention it deserves) among other things automatically puts Regan near the top of this list.  But George W Bush wins this one hands down.  Just a complete and utter failure.
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« Reply #17 on: November 12, 2008, 11:58:24 pm »
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Reagan didn't "win" the Cold War, but he definitely helped. Ultimately, we didn't win the Cold War, the Soviet Union lost it. Reagan just hastened their loss by restarting the arms race.
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« Reply #18 on: November 13, 2008, 12:04:27 am »
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I vote for Reagan for giving a politically popular voice to an asinine economic concept that, for some time, was the basis for winning presidential elections. Reagan effectively, and maybe proudly used the ignorance of the American public to push through his corporatist agenda. the arms race is also a factor.

Hate on the man that won the cold war?

That Reagan won the cold war is one of the biggest distortions of American history.
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« Reply #19 on: November 13, 2008, 12:07:43 am »
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Its really hard to choose as Nixon, Ford and Carter were all disasters.
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« Reply #21 on: November 13, 2008, 12:30:57 pm »
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(a President) didn't "win" the Cold War, but he definitely helped. Ultimately, we didn't win the Cold War, the Soviet Union lost it. (a President) just hastened their loss by restarting the arms race.
The name is Carter.

Not saying the Carter/Callahan/Schmidt plan would have gone through if these men had stayed in power... not a safe thing to say at all, actually... but Conservative involvement in thinking it up is zilch.
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« Reply #22 on: November 13, 2008, 05:41:22 pm »
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(a President) didn't "win" the Cold War, but he definitely helped. Ultimately, we didn't win the Cold War, the Soviet Union lost it. (a President) just hastened their loss by restarting the arms race.
The name is Carter.

Not saying the Carter/Callahan/Schmidt plan would have gone through if these men had stayed in power... not a safe thing to say at all, actually... but Conservative involvement in thinking it up is zilch.

I must admit I am not familiar with this plan, please elaborate.
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« Reply #23 on: November 13, 2008, 05:44:30 pm »
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Reagan didn't "win" the Cold War, but he definitely helped. Ultimately, we didn't win the Cold War, the Soviet Union lost it. Reagan just hastened their loss by restarting the arms race.

He also hastened it by continuing Carter's support for the rebels in Afganistan, though it appears that to that was a bad idea.
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« Reply #24 on: November 13, 2008, 08:23:00 pm »
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Carter, for the reasons stated.  Every president since was better.
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