What positions make Michael Steele a moderate/RINO?
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« on: November 12, 2008, 01:25:34 AM »
I've heard that Steele's been accused of being a RINO, but I've always liked him, and other than maybe his stances on affirmative action-related stuff, haven't found where he's liberal or moderate.
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« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2008, 01:44:39 AM »
Because he's black he's less scary as long as he isn't Alan Keyes Smiley  It's moderating to go non-WASP at least haha.

Not sure, but he's electable in Maryland.
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« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2008, 08:01:35 AM »
« Edited: November 12, 2008, 08:04:27 AM by JohnnyLongtorso »
He's anti-death penalty. That's pretty much it.

Edit: Oh, and he's not really electable. For that, he'd have to win an election in his own right. So far, he's 0 for 2.
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« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2008, 10:28:59 AM »
Quote from: JohnnyLongtorso on November 12, 2008, 08:01:35 AM
He's anti-death penalty. That's pretty much it.

Edit: Oh, and he's not really electable. For that, he'd have to win an election in his own right. So far, he's 0 for 2.

But that doesn't mean he's not electable as RNC Chair.
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« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2008, 03:55:55 PM »
So, is that it?  Any Marylanders that could help me out?
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« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2008, 05:31:24 PM »
Who in their right mind would call this man a moderate or a RINO?
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« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2008, 06:23:31 PM »
Quote from: Keystone Phil on November 12, 2008, 05:31:24 PM
Who in their right mind would call this man a moderate or a RINO?

The same people who call Mccain a moderate or a RINO. Neither is.
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« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2008, 06:34:05 PM »
Quote from: Keystone Phil on November 12, 2008, 05:31:24 PM
Who in their right mind would call this man a moderate or a RINO?

Random criticisms I've found about him on the internet.  Normally talking about why he might not win the RNC Chairmanship.
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« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2008, 08:58:21 PM »
Is the criticism substantiated?  He seems solidly Republican.  He probably isn't an over-the-top Republican since he is electable in Maryland, but that seems like a good thing.

A more valid criticism might accuse him of using his race as a platform to rise by the diversity-starved GOP ranks.  Probably a valid criticism, but I don't find it particularly compelling.  If the GOP were to select a minority for outreach though, they should probably choose an Hispanic or Asian or some minority that's not going to be lost to them for a decade or two Smiley.

 
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« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2008, 09:56:25 PM »
Quote from: Lunar on November 12, 2008, 08:58:21 PM
Is the criticism substantiated?  He seems solidly Republican.  He probably isn't an over-the-top Republican since he is electable in Maryland, but that seems like a good thing.

He is not electable in Maryland. Name an election he has won in Maryland on his own.
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« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2008, 10:02:22 PM »
Well, he's not offensive enough to cause the Maryland electorate to reject the overall ticket.
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« Reply #11 on: November 12, 2008, 10:03:38 PM »
Quote from: Lunar on November 12, 2008, 10:02:22 PM
Well, he's not offensive enough to cause the Maryland electorate to reject the overall ticket.

Assuming that the Maryland electorate knew anything about his half of the ticket other than that it was a black guy named Michael Steele.
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« Reply #12 on: November 13, 2008, 01:46:31 AM »
Quote from: Lunar on November 12, 2008, 10:02:22 PM
Well, he's not offensive enough to cause the Maryland electorate to reject the overall ticket.

Does that make Dick Cheney electable?
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« Reply #13 on: November 13, 2008, 01:57:03 AM »
Quote from: Judge, Fmr. Chairman, Fmr. Governor, & Queen Mum Inks.LWC on November 13, 2008, 01:46:31 AM
Quote from: Lunar on November 12, 2008, 10:02:22 PM
Well, he's not offensive enough to cause the Maryland electorate to reject the overall ticket.

Does that make Dick Cheney electable?

Well, in 2002 or so, he might not have made a horrible RNC chairman...
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« Reply #14 on: November 13, 2008, 09:16:23 AM »
Quote from: Lunar on November 13, 2008, 01:57:03 AM
Quote from: Judge, Fmr. Chairman, Fmr. Governor, & Queen Mum Inks.LWC on November 13, 2008, 01:46:31 AM
Quote from: Lunar on November 12, 2008, 10:02:22 PM
Well, he's not offensive enough to cause the Maryland electorate to reject the overall ticket.

Does that make Dick Cheney electable?

Well, in 2002 or so, he might not have made a horrible RNC chairman...

You didn't say Steele was electable as RNC Chairman.  You said he was electable in MD.
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« Reply #15 on: November 13, 2008, 10:25:48 AM »
Steele is a pretty hard core right winger and is wholly unelectable in Maryland.
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« Reply #16 on: November 13, 2008, 03:24:28 PM »
Quote from: Senator HappyWarrior on November 13, 2008, 10:25:48 AM
Steele is a pretty hard core right winger and is wholly unelectable in Maryland.

He did rather better than Bush here, and was elected as Lt. Governor in '02, and before then served as a congressman in a Baltimore-area district.

That said, Maryland can rather accurately be described as "to the right of Lenin, but only barely", especially if you're talking about the populated areas. The only remotely conservative parts of the state are the western panhandle and parts of the eastern shore.
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« Reply #17 on: November 13, 2008, 04:14:53 PM »
Quote from: DanielX on November 13, 2008, 03:24:28 PM
before then served as a congressman in a Baltimore-area district.


That was Ehrlich, not Steele.
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« Reply #18 on: November 13, 2008, 07:48:44 PM »
Quote from: Keystone Phil on November 13, 2008, 04:14:53 PM
Quote from: DanielX on November 13, 2008, 03:24:28 PM
before then served as a congressman in a Baltimore-area district.


That was Ehrlich, not Steele.

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