Has anyone made an electoral map using just the white vote?
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« Reply #25 on: December 13, 2008, 08:01:38 PM »

Can someone do the white vote compared to the national average?
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« Reply #26 on: December 14, 2008, 08:41:34 AM »

Whites who earn less than $50,000



Obama 286
McCain 244
Tied 8

Obama 47%
McCain 51%
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« Reply #27 on: December 14, 2008, 09:56:01 AM »

Whites who earn more than $50,000



McCain 362
Obama 176

McCain 56%
Obama 43%
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« Reply #28 on: December 14, 2008, 04:50:31 PM »

Whites who earn less than $50,000



Obama 286
McCain 244
Tied 8

Obama 47%
McCain 51%


wow, I guess class does play some role in American politics
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« Reply #29 on: December 15, 2008, 08:56:00 AM »

College educated whites



McCain 282
Obama 230
Tied 26

McCain 51%
Obama 47%
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« Reply #30 on: December 15, 2008, 09:05:18 AM »

Non-college educated whites



McCain 411
Obama 127

McCain 58%
Obama 40%
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« Reply #31 on: December 15, 2008, 10:03:17 PM »

Non-college educated whites




Kind of shows the increased polarization. Mondale lost overall by that margin and won one state. Obama would have done better than Dukakis did with 6% less of the vote.
McCain 411
Obama 127

McCain 58%
Obama 40%

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« Reply #32 on: January 02, 2009, 08:29:07 PM »

Does anyone have the data for non-evangelical whites by state?
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« Reply #33 on: January 15, 2009, 11:49:41 PM »

Whites who earn less than $50,000



Who the hell makes more than $50k and lives in West Virginia?
Obama 286
McCain 244
Tied 8

Obama 47%
McCain 51%

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« Reply #34 on: January 16, 2009, 12:03:47 AM »

Can someone do a map with whites who have finished graduate schools?  Also a map with white women under 30?

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« Reply #35 on: January 16, 2009, 05:30:31 PM »

Can someone do a map with whites who have finished graduate schools?  Also a map with white women under 30?

Exit polls don't provide that kind of information, and the sample sizes would render them pretty useless anyway.  Alas.
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« Reply #36 on: January 17, 2009, 12:09:38 AM »

Can someone do a map with whites who have finished graduate schools?  Also a map with white women under 30?

Exit polls don't provide that kind of information, and the sample sizes would render them pretty useless anyway.  Alas.

lol I know... I was only half serious when I made those suggestions.
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« Reply #37 on: January 17, 2009, 12:46:37 AM »

Can someone do a map with whites who have finished graduate schools?  Also a map with white women under 30?

Exit polls don't provide that kind of information, and the sample sizes would render them pretty useless anyway.  Alas.

lol I know... I was only half serious when I made those suggestions.

Oh sorry, I think I dropped my sarcasm detector at the DMV, sometime after the third hour waiting
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« Reply #38 on: February 08, 2009, 05:33:33 PM »

This took me a hot minute, but here is the White Male Only map (according to CNN's exits):




Electoral Vote:

McCain 408
Obama 109
Tied 21

Popular Vote:

McCain 57%
Obama 41%
Others 2%

Barack would be screwed in the old days.

White Female Only map coming later...


In 2008 in Louisiana, Mississippi, and Alabama, the Democratic Party was effectively the Black People's party and the Republican Party was effectively the White People's Party. That itself suggests political pathology because it allows politicians in "safe" districts that vote strictly on ethnic lines that so long as they have the right ethnicity they can preserve corrupt political machines for fun and profit as well as certain re-election. One study showed that Mississippi is the most corrupt State in the Union, and that Louisiana isn't far behind.

Look at the case of William "Cold Cash" Jefferson, D-LA. In a safe district he could get re-elected despite having been caught with the proceeds of bribes in his freezer. It took two tries to remove him from office through the electoral process. But that's the US Congress... just imagine how corrupt a county government or a city council can be when ethnic machines, white or black, can't be dislodged because people within that group (and white people and black people are no less guilty at that) won't vote for someone of the other ethnic group at the least as a temporary protest against incompetence or corruption.

Obama would not have won without lots of white people deciding that his ethnicity mattered little. That did not hold in the South -- except in Virginia, North Carolina, Florida, and to some extent Georgia. 


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« Reply #39 on: February 18, 2009, 07:14:51 PM »
« Edited: February 19, 2009, 07:29:45 PM by Romney/Jindal `12 »

Somewhat bored, so I'm going to do "SUBURBAN VOTING"...Doesn't really go along with the whole "race" topic, but I thought some might want to know anyways

Some of the closest states were New York, Illinois, Ohio, and Pennyslvania.
I looked at 2 sources on some of the closer contests, so determined the winner that way in close states.


Obama-307
McCain-241


P.S. Just caught this...Nevada is a mistake! It was 60+ Obama.
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« Reply #40 on: February 18, 2009, 09:12:22 PM »

I don't see how McCain won the "suburban" vote in PA, unless most of the area of the counties that surround Philadelphia are being classified as urban rather than suburban, while most of the area of the counties surrounding Allegheny are being classified as suburban rather than rural.

Likewise Nevada, unless all of Las Vegas and Reno are considered "urban".
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« Reply #41 on: February 18, 2009, 09:55:04 PM »

Are these based on exit polls or county results? In any case, shouldn't DC be gray?
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« Reply #42 on: February 18, 2009, 10:46:58 PM »

I don't see how McCain won the "suburban" vote in PA, unless most of the area of the counties that surround Philadelphia are being classified as urban rather than suburban, while most of the area of the counties surrounding Allegheny are being classified as suburban rather than rural.

Likewise Nevada, unless all of Las Vegas and Reno are considered "urban".

CNN's exit poll classifications of that kind of thing have always been a little whacky.  Like Alaska was collapsed as entirely Suburban and Rural in '04, not at all Small City/Small Town/whatever.

I think we put way more trust in exit polls than is warranted, even with our skepticism.
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« Reply #43 on: February 19, 2009, 07:21:56 PM »

I got my results from CNN, Fox, as well as several other sites. Pennyslvania was tied in most, while two had McCain winning by a point and one had Obama.

I didn't change D.C. My Bad...Sad
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