Has anyone made an electoral map using just the white vote?
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« on: November 12, 2008, 04:22:25 PM »

I was thinking about making three maps at some point. One with the white vote in general, one with the white male vote only and one with the white female vote only... unless somebody has done this already.
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« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2008, 04:27:24 PM »

White vote done here:

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=88002.msg1808230#msg1808230



Predictable.
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« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2008, 04:31:27 PM »

Maryland surprises me a bit. I guess all the whites in Baltimore, Howard and Montgomery counties couldn't balance out all the less populated ones in the west and east.
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« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2008, 05:25:17 PM »

Yay Colorado (Though it does look out of place)
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« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2008, 05:33:22 PM »

Nevada and New Mexico must've been close. Jersey, too.
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« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2008, 05:43:06 PM »

Nevada and New Mexico must've been close. Jersey, too.


According to the CNN exit polls


New Mexico McCain won whites 56-42
Nevada McCain won whites 53-45
New Jersey McCain won whites 50-49

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« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2008, 05:44:53 PM »

what % of the total vote was the white vote in NV and NM.  Obama won both by double digits.
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« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2008, 05:51:43 PM »

what % of the total vote was the white vote in NV and NM.  Obama won both by double digits.


New Mexico: 50%
Nevada: 69%
Colorado: 81%


NV and NM have a lot more hispanics than CO (Which is why Obama won them by bigger margins) but also more fake whites
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« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2008, 06:00:44 PM »

Fifth of an acre anyone? Tongue
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« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2008, 10:08:27 PM »

I'm surprised by Louisiana. I was under the impression it actually had white liberal enclaves, like North Carolina.
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« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2008, 10:39:55 PM »

I'm surprised by Louisiana. I was under the impression it actually had white liberal enclaves, like North Carolina.

It has Cajuns, who previous to this, voted Democratic.  They said no to Obama.
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« Reply #11 on: November 12, 2008, 11:21:32 PM »

Maryland surprises me a bit. I guess all the whites in Baltimore, Howard and Montgomery counties couldn't balance out all the less populated ones in the west and east.

I am going to assume that the white classification is non-Hispanic whites.  In Maryland, that's less than 60% of the population.
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« Reply #12 on: November 12, 2008, 11:30:16 PM »

I'm surprised by Louisiana. I was under the impression it actually had white liberal enclaves, like North Carolina.

"Liberal enclaves" - haha.  Democratic enclaves do not equal liberal enclaves.  I don't know if Louisianan whites aer substantively different from Arkansan ones...
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« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2008, 11:42:00 PM »

I'd disagree with that...

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« Reply #14 on: November 13, 2008, 01:33:48 AM »

It's interesting looking at the South. Oklahoma, Arkansas, and Tennessee really weren't that bad compared to Louisiana, Mississippi, and Alabama. Georgia surprises me a bit, but not that much. CA Whites actually voted Democratic this year! And look at that margin in Hawaii... tells you about the weird voting patterns there.
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« Reply #15 on: November 13, 2008, 03:18:00 AM »

I'm surprised by Louisiana. I was under the impression it actually had white liberal enclaves, like North Carolina.

It has Cajuns, who previous to this, voted Democratic.  They said no to Obama.

Why was that?  I haven't been able to find any analysis about this (full disclosure: I know nothing about Cajuns or Cajun culture).
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« Reply #16 on: November 13, 2008, 03:23:59 AM »

     I find it amazing that there were actually states where Obama did worse among whites than in OK.
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« Reply #17 on: November 13, 2008, 08:27:56 AM »

     I find it amazing that there were actually states where Obama did worse among whites than in OK.

Once you consider the black percentages of those Southern states it isn't that surprising. Alabama and Mississippi would be solid Democrat if whites there voted anywhere near the rest of the country. Oklahoma is much whiter.
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« Reply #18 on: November 13, 2008, 10:00:14 AM »
« Edited: November 13, 2008, 11:44:30 AM by Eraserhead »

This took me a hot minute, but here is the White Male Only map (according to CNN's exits):



Electoral Vote:

McCain 408
Obama 109
Tied 21

Popular Vote:

McCain 57%
Obama 41%
Others 2%

Barack would be screwed in the old days.

White Female Only map coming later...
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« Reply #19 on: November 13, 2008, 11:53:18 AM »

Barack wouldn't have even been able to vote in the old days. Tongue
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« Reply #20 on: November 13, 2008, 12:26:33 PM »

what % of the total vote was the white vote in NV and NM.  Obama won both by double digits.


New Mexico: 50%
So nonwhites Obama by 44? Wow. McCain really got sealclubbed among Hispanics.
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« Reply #21 on: November 13, 2008, 05:55:27 PM »
« Edited: November 13, 2008, 05:57:22 PM by Eraserhead »

White Female Only Map



Electoral Vote:

Obama: 273
McCain: 265

Popular Vote:

McCain: 53%
Obama: 46%
Others: 1%


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« Reply #22 on: November 13, 2008, 05:57:48 PM »

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« Reply #23 on: November 13, 2008, 06:03:10 PM »
« Edited: November 13, 2008, 06:05:28 PM by Eraserhead »


It looks like massive racial voting in Texas and other southern states is enough to give him a comfortable popular vote victory but it doesn't do him much good as far as the EC goes.

Do note that I have taken all of this info from the exit polls though, which even at this point are far from perfect.
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« Reply #24 on: November 13, 2008, 09:47:05 PM »

Do white male landowners next! Wink
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