Maps for Third Party candidates

[Filuwaúrdjan]

[True Democrat]

McKinney is the only surprising one.

[Alcon]

Nicely done.

Dumb request:  Greying out states where candidates weren't on the ballot, otherwise it just looks like they severely under-performed.

[Meeker]

The McKinney results in AR, LA and WV confuse me. Bitter Democrats who didn't want to vote for the Republican but were unaware McKinney was black as well? Radical blacks who didn't think Obama was a good representative of their race? White liberals feed up by Obama not being more anti-Bush?

[Хahar 🤔]

So Barr had an effect in Indiana.

[Stranger in a strange land]

The McKinney results in AR, LA and WV confuse me. Bitter Democrats who didn't want to vote for the Republican but were unaware McKinney was black as well? Radical blacks who didn't think Obama was a good representative of their race? White liberals feed up by Obama not being more anti-Bush?

pissed-off Hillary supporters who saw a woman's name on the ballot and voted for her.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

We'd have to look at county results before can be sure of 'owt. But having a "Mc" in front of your name doesn't exactly hurt you in WV and, presumably, Arkansas. She also had the Mountain Party nomination in WV.

[Sam Spade]

We'd have to look at county results before can be sure of 'owt. But having a "Mc" in front of your name doesn't exactly hurt you in WV and, presumably, Arkansas. She also had the Mountain Party nomination in WV.

Exactly.  Welcome to Scots-Irish America,.. which btw appears to be the only part of this country that reacted more negatively to Obama than Kerry (not surprising).

[WillK]

McKinney is the only surprising one.

Look at the scale on her map.  The darkest shade is only 0.3.

[Хahar 🤔]

We'd have to look at county results before can be sure of 'owt. But having a "Mc" in front of your name doesn't exactly hurt you in WV and, presumably, Arkansas. She also had the Mountain Party nomination in WV.

Isn't the Mountain Party the Green Party?

[Nym90]

It makes sense that people named Kerry and McCain would do well in Scots-Irish territory.

Imagine how badly McGovern would've done in WV and AR if he'd been named Obama. Obviously the name only goes so far.

[Bacon King]

We'd have to look at county results before can be sure of 'owt. But having a "Mc" in front of your name doesn't exactly hurt you in WV and, presumably, Arkansas. She also had the Mountain Party nomination in WV.

Isn't the Mountain Party the Green Party?

IIRC it became the state affiliate for the national Green Party a few years back but was independently existing prior to that.

I may be wrong though; lets wait for Al to clarify because he knows everything about WV.

[Verily]

So Barr had an effect in Indiana.

He only did so well because he was the only minor party candidate on the ballot there. In fact, his support correlates well with being the only minor party candidate on the ballot (Georgia, Texas).

[Meeker]

There's not a significant Scots-Irish presence in Louisiana though, right?

[Hash]

We'd have to look at county results before can be sure of 'owt. But having a "Mc" in front of your name doesn't exactly hurt you in WV and, presumably, Arkansas. She also had the Mountain Party nomination in WV.

Isn't the Mountain Party the Green Party?

IIRC it became the state affiliate for the national Green Party a few years back but was independently existing prior to that.

I may be wrong though; lets wait for Al to clarify because he knows everything about WV.

Yes, Mountain is the local Greenie party.

[MODU]

The McKinney results in AR, LA and WV confuse me. Bitter Democrats who didn't want to vote for the Republican but were unaware McKinney was black as well? Radical blacks who didn't think Obama was a good representative of their race? White liberals feed up by Obama not being more anti-Bush?

McKinney was the only black candidate on the ballot.  Obama is bi-racial.  Maybe that had something to do with it?

[Sam Spade]

The McKinney results in AR, LA and WV confuse me. Bitter Democrats who didn't want to vote for the Republican but were unaware McKinney was black as well? Radical blacks who didn't think Obama was a good representative of their race? White liberals feed up by Obama not being more anti-Bush?

McKinney was the only black candidate on the ballot.  Obama is bi-racial.  Maybe that had something to do with it?

How many people in AR, LA and WV do you think know that McKinney is black?  I suspect you can count them on one hand.

[Workers' Friend]

*sees Barr's Indiana results* I think that is partly to blame for McCain losing Indiana.

[Sam Spade]

There's not a significant Scots-Irish presence in Louisiana though, right?

Not terribly significant (unlike Appalachia), but there is certainly one in north and west Louisiana where a certain amount of the Sam Spade relatives come from.

[minionofmidas]

The McKinney results in AR, LA and WV confuse me. Bitter Democrats who didn't want to vote for the Republican but were unaware McKinney was black as well? Radical blacks who didn't think Obama was a good representative of their race? White liberals feed up by Obama not being more anti-Bush?

McKinney was the only black candidate on the ballot.  Obama is bi-racial.  Maybe that had something to do with it?

How many people in AR, LA and WV do you think know that McKinney is black?  I suspect you can count them on one hand.

Everybody who watched FOX in 2005 or 2006.

[Franzl]

*sees Barr's Indiana results* I think that is partly to blame for McCain losing Indiana.

oh McCain definitely lost Indiana...lol....even if Barr helped a little. Such a major swing against a party that won by 20 points four years ago tells you what Indiana thinks of them.

[MODU]

The McKinney results in AR, LA and WV confuse me. Bitter Democrats who didn't want to vote for the Republican but were unaware McKinney was black as well? Radical blacks who didn't think Obama was a good representative of their race? White liberals feed up by Obama not being more anti-Bush?

McKinney was the only black candidate on the ballot.  Obama is bi-racial.  Maybe that had something to do with it?

How many people in AR, LA and WV do you think know that McKinney is black?  I suspect you can count them on one hand.

Everybody who watched FOX in 2005 or 2006.

HAHAHA  possibly. 

[Verily]

*sees Barr's Indiana results* I think that is partly to blame for McCain losing Indiana.

Again, look at where Barr did well. Basically, he won the votes of people who see a third party and vote for it. His strongest three states also happened to be the three where he was the only third-party candidate available. It is unlikely more than 20% or so of Barr's vote would have voted for President with no third party choice (same is true of other third party candidates, too, of course, at least when they're as irrelevant as the ones this year).

[MaxQue]

A map of all third party candidates added together could be interesting.

[minionofmidas]

*sees Barr's Indiana results* I think that is partly to blame for McCain losing Indiana.

Again, look at where Barr did well. Basically, he won the votes of people who see a third party and vote for it. His strongest three states also happened to be the three where he was the only third-party candidate available. It is unlikely more than 20% or so of Barr's vote would have voted for President with no third party choice (same is true of other third party candidates, too, of course, at least when they're as irrelevant as the ones this year).

They were more relevant than in 2004... 1.35% vs 1.00%. All of the extra is probably turned off Republicans who couldn't bring themselves to vote for Obama.