ciuld texas be a supeising 'battleground' in 2012?

[Frozen Sky Ever Why]

Unfortunately, do to their opposition to ANY form of birth control, evangelicals continue to breed at an alarming rate, and will probably be dominating Texas for a long time. Whites 18-29 voted basically the same as the adults, so there is really very little hope here.

[perdedor]

I don't see why not. The Democrats now seem to have a firm hold on hispanic voters (something that was not the case four years ago), which is an ever expansive demographic in Texas. If the administration's first term is successful and if Obama campaigns as strongly as he did this time around, a blue Texas isn't all that inconceivable.

[justfollowingtheelections]

I'm not sure about Texas but Arizona I'm pretty sure will turn blue in 2012.

[Frozen Sky Ever Why]

Arizona, Montana, Georgia, the Dakotas & Missouri should all fall into place if Obama has a great term and the republicans nominate other McCain. Texas is just so dominated by southern culture that it will be tend times more difficult to win than other red states.

[justfollowingtheelections]

I'm not so sure about Georgia.  The Dakotas, Montana maybe even Arkansas are all states that Obama can win if he's a competent president.  Missouri too.

[Frozen Sky Ever Why]

If Georgia continues to grow then the black vote + moderation of white suburbs could deliver Georgia. Arkansas is an absolute crap state that probably wouldn't vote for Obama if he was the best president since Lincoln.

[justfollowingtheelections]

If George continues to grow then the black vote + moderation of white suburbs could deliver Georgia. Arkansas is an absolute crap state that probably wouldn't vote for Obama if he was the best president since Lincoln.

Why do you say that about Arkansas?  I don't really know much about the state and I'm probably biased because I have some good friends who are from Arkansas.  I just thought that it might go blue because they have 2 democratic senators and the Arkansas democratic party appears to be very strong.  I was actually surprised to see how bad Obama did there.

[Frozen Sky Ever Why]

Not everyone from the state is bad, and MAYBE it was the PUMA movement that resulted in Obama's hideous showing, but most of the democratic politicians down there are more conservative. Not that I have a problem with that, unlike with Harold Ford Jr. who completely sold out democratic principles and deserved to lose, but some of it probably had to do with race.

[Nhoj]

Unfortunately, do to their opposition to ANY form of birth control, evangelicals continue to breed at an alarming rate, and will probably be dominating Texas for a long time. Whites 18-29 voted basically the same as the adults, so there is really very little hope here.

well i dont entirely disagree but Hispanics also reproduce at a alarming rate and tend not to use birth control either due to religion or poor access. so that kinda counters the evangelicals as hispanics are probably also moveing into texas at a higher rate but i dont think texas will be a battleground as early as 2012 maybe 2020.

[Lunar]

an Alarming Rate!

[Frozen Sky Ever Why]

Ford isn't liberal enough to head the democratic party. I would change alliances immediately to some third party if he was nominated. He's kind of like a 1996 bill clinton, which isn't really appealing to a partisan.

[Matt Damon™]

Ford isn't liberal enough to head the democratic party. I would change alliances immediately to some third party if he was nominated. He's kind of like a 1996 bill clinton, which isn't really appealing to a partisan.

im a partisan and thats why i like ford id have voted for ford but not obama

[Frozen Sky Ever Why]

Ford sold out his party to win a red state and lost. Good riddance.

[Matt Damon™]

Ford sold out his party to win a red state and lost. Good riddance.

running as center-left/moderate and not left-wing isn't 'selling out your party'

try again

[Frozen Sky Ever Why]

He did not run as a moderate, he ran as a conservative democrat. We need to get rid of those.

[Sam Spade]

I was examining precincts (6 in total) in the barrio neighborhoods of Houston where I lived and voted before 2003 or so today.  Two findings, somewhat interesting, but not unpredictable...

1) There was about a 6-7% swing away from Bush 2004/McCain 2008.  I expected more and this figure is actually less than the national swing.
2) In every precinct, turnout was down from 2004.  Some precincts have less registered voters, but I'm not too surprised on that as these people probably have less VEP than 2004.

I'll check some other well-known Hispanic areas in the East End and Pasadena to see if these same figures match, but I wouldn't be surprised if they do.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

Arkansas is an absolute crap state that probably wouldn't vote for Obama if he was the best president since Lincoln.

Arkansas is a great state.

[Platypus]

Arkansas is an absolute crap state that probably wouldn't vote for Obama if he was the best president since Lincoln.

Arkansas is a great state.

Why??

[Meeker]

Arkansas is an absolute crap state that probably wouldn't vote for Obama if he was the best president since Lincoln.

Arkansas is a great state.

Why??

Ben feeling a need to defend any aspect of Southern life in order to continue to pass of the farce of him being a moderate Democrat because he feels that when he, hypothetically, runs for office that should be his persona and he hasn't quite figured out that acting like that on an internet message board isn't going to affect him in any way, shape or form.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

Arkansas is an absolute crap state that probably wouldn't vote for Obama if he was the best president since Lincoln.

Arkansas is a great state.

Why??

For one thing, I have friends in Arkansas; and I visited Little Rock a couple of years ago, and it was quite nice.

[Franzl]

Arkansas is an absolute crap state that probably wouldn't vote for Obama if he was the best president since Lincoln.

Arkansas is a great state.

Why??

For one thing, I have friends in Arkansas; and I visited Little Rock a couple of years ago, and it was quite nice.

Little Rock = all of Arkansas?

[Kaine for Senate '18]

Arkansas is an absolute crap state that probably wouldn't vote for Obama if he was the best president since Lincoln.

Arkansas is a great state.

Why??

For one thing, I have friends in Arkansas; and I visited Little Rock a couple of years ago, and it was quite nice.

Little Rock = all of Arkansas?

Fine; my opinion of Arkansas is still very high.

[Platypus]

High compared to what? And why is it better?

[Kaine for Senate '18]

High compared to what? And why is it better?

Compared to places like San Francisco and Newark.

I just found it more enjoyable overall.

[Lief 🗽]

I wonder when Ben will grow out of his little Southern Dem persona.