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Sam Spade
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« on: November 19, 2008, 07:34:27 PM »
« edited: January 06, 2009, 04:03:51 PM by Sam Spade »

November 23, 2008

Completed Counties

CountyColemanCHGFrankenCHGShiftChallenges
Aitkin3,619 (38%)+23,891 (41%)-1C+3C2, F0
Beltrami9,452 (42%)-210,032 (44%)+2F+4C4, F3SOS lacks one precinct.
Benton8,444 (43%)-256,462 (33%)-24F+1C25, F31
Big Stone1,209 (40%)+11,270 (42%)-2C+3C3, F3
Carlton6,082 (33%)-179,477 (51%)-40C+23C47, F20
Carver26,950 (54%)-1614,094 (28%)-8F+8C10, F20
Cass7,682 (47%)-35,887 (36%)+3F+6C3, F5
Chippewa2,418 (38%)-12,558 (40%)0F+1C2, F3
Chisago13,763 (47%)-29,829 (33%)-6C+4C5, F5
Clay13,028 (45%)-912,065 (41%)-12C+3C3, F4
Clearwater2,109 (50%)01,595 (38%)0NCC0, F0
Cook1,202 (36%)-41,617 (48%)-3F+1C2, F8
Cottonwood2,767 (46%)+22,129 (35%)-3C+5C4, F5
Douglas10,058 (48%)-146,833 (33%)-21C+7C25, F19
Faribault3,595 (44%)-32,909 (36%)0F+3C3, F4
Fillmore4,770 (42%)-14,614 (41%)-15C+14C27, F3
Freeborn6,566 (38%)+17,431 (43%)+2F+1C1, F0
Grant1,483 (41%)01,466 (41%)-2C+2C3, F0
Houston5,026 (46%)-24,596 (42%)0F+2C2, F1
Hubbard5,751 (49%)04,023 (34%)-4C+4C1, F0
Isanti9,553 (48%)-96,551 (33%)-4F+5C5, F10
Itasca9,259 (38%)-511,539 (47%)-3F+2C5, F4
Kandiyohi10,242 (47%)-48,003 (36%)0F+4C3, F6
Lake2,428 (35%)-63,548 (51%)-2F+4C1, F5
Lincoln1,464 (46%)+11,272 (40%)-1C+2C0, F0
Lyon6,085 (48%)-24,408 (35%)-2NCC3, F5
McLeod9,083 (48%)-95,490 (29%)-4F+5C7, F15
Mahnomen858 (36%)01,138 (48%)0NCC2, F3
Marshall2,322 (48%)+11,749 (36%)0C+1C1, F3
Martin5,106 (47%)-53,588 (33%)0F+5C0, F4
Meeker5,649 (45%)-483,865 (31%)-5F+43C7, F51
Mille Lacs5,827 (43%)-224,791 (35%)-6F+16C11, F26
Morrison7,824 (46%)+15,424 (32%)-1C+2C1, F2
Murray2,333 (48%)-11,866 (38%)+1F+2C0, F1
Nicollet7,234 (40%)-37,376 (40%)-8C+5C9, F3SOS lacks one precinct.
Nobles4,188 (47%)-13,533 (40%)+2F+3C2, F3
Norman1,334 (38%)01,576 (45%)0NCC0, F0
Olmsted35,316 (46%)-1628,574 (37%)-18C+2C23, F20
Otter Tail17,195 (52%)-510,736 (33%)-2F+3C6, F6
Pennington3,237 (47%)02,595 (38%)0NCC0, F2
Pine5,681 (39%)-16,014 (42%)+5F+6C3, F2
Pipestone2,632 (54%)-51,670 (34%)-10C+5C10, F6
Polk7,349 (48%)-45,923 (38%)+1F+5C4, F4
Pope2,749 (42%)02,557 (39%)0NCC2, F0
Red Lake984 (44%)0834 (38%)0NCC0, F0
Redwood3,642 (46%)+12,454 (31%)+1NCC0, F0
Renville3,274 (40%)02,908 (36%)+1F+1C0, F2
Rice12,057 (38%)-213,676 (43%)+1F+3C5, F5
Roseau4,394 (57%)02,420 (31%)0NCC3, F1
Sibley3,498 (45%)02,156 (28%)-2C+2C2, F1
Steele8,645 (44%)+16,544(34%)-8C+9C10, F2SOS not updated.
Swift1,879 (36%)+12,293 (44%)+2F+1C0, F1
Traverse837 (41%)+2794 (39%)+3F+1C0, F1
Wabasha4,950 (42%)-84,451 (38%)-1C+3C16, F12
Wadena3,675 (51%)-62,287 (32%)-5F+1C10, F10
Waseca4,228 (42%)03,261 (33%)-2C+2C0, F2
Washington63,756 (46%)-5550,504 (37%)-67C+12C59, F51
Watonwan2,100 (40%)-32,009 (39%)-8C+5C10, F4
Wilkin1,807 (53%)-71,064 (31%)-10C+3C11, F7
Yellow Medicine2,311 (42%)02,167 (39%)-4C+4C7, F2
TOTALS231,665-77190,944-71F+6C144, F146
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« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2008, 07:36:14 PM »

Here are your pre-recount numbers...

Barkley   437389
Coleman   1211565
Franken   1211359
Aldrich   13916
Niemackl   8908
Write-in   2340
Evan   0
Shepard   0
Price      12
Cavlan   13

And here is your link to the MN results: http://electionresults.sos.state.mn.us/20081104/ElecRslts.asp?M=S&R=S&P=A

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« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2008, 07:39:05 PM »

Current net change

Barkley +15
Coleman +25
Franken +16

They're sure doing a good job of stealing this election for Franken in the recount right now.

Current margin: 215 votes
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« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2008, 07:41:11 PM »

We'll have to do better than this.
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« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2008, 07:44:55 PM »

Current net change

Barkley +15
Coleman +25
Franken +16

They're sure doing a good job of stealing this election for Franken in the recount right now.

Current margin: 215 votes

its early...the recount is going to take the better part of 2 weeks.
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« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2008, 07:45:42 PM »

Franken's up by 570 votes?
http://ww2.startribune.com/news/metro/elections/returns/2008/recount/msenci.html
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« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2008, 07:47:07 PM »

Current net change

Barkley +15
Coleman +25
Franken +16

They're sure doing a good job of stealing this election for Franken in the recount right now.

Current margin: 215 votes

its early...the recount is going to take the better part of 2 weeks.

I know that it's not over. My post was just sarcastically refuting the Republican meme that recounting = stealing election.
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« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2008, 07:48:27 PM »


That has got to be some kind of error. 
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« Reply #8 on: November 19, 2008, 07:49:45 PM »


My stomach just dropped.  I hope it's some kind of typo.
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« Reply #9 on: November 19, 2008, 07:52:54 PM »

Apparently, Norm Coleman lost 1000 (!) votes in Watertown.
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« Reply #10 on: November 19, 2008, 07:53:51 PM »

Oops, now Coleman is up by 196 votes. 
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« Reply #11 on: November 19, 2008, 08:04:16 PM »

Oops, now Coleman is up by 196 votes. 

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« Reply #12 on: November 19, 2008, 08:32:57 PM »

we need to wait at least a day before we can start heralding results...one vote here and there is not changing much.  So far Coleman has decreased by a total of 11 votes...talk about newsworthy *rolls eyes*.
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« Reply #13 on: November 19, 2008, 08:50:09 PM »

lol voters.

I agree with Engdahl about that one, btw; I don't really see the X (I perceive a "/" fairly well but the other stroke isn't really there).
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« Reply #14 on: November 19, 2008, 08:54:11 PM »

You can see 4 challenged ballots here (click "View full slideshow" on the right)

http://minnesota.publicradio.org/display/web/2008/11/19/recountbegins/
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« Reply #15 on: November 19, 2008, 08:59:45 PM »

Franken will win this race. The Democrats will make sure of it.
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« Reply #16 on: November 19, 2008, 09:01:28 PM »

lol voters.

I agree with Engdahl about that one, btw; I don't really see the X (I perceive a "/" fairly well but the other stroke isn't really there).

This is simple yet clear evidence that there are millions of people who have never gone to school and taken a standardized test...
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« Reply #17 on: November 19, 2008, 09:03:14 PM »

Franken will win this race. The Democrats will make sure of it.

Absolutely, I'm very doubtful that Coleman has enough recount efforts.  There is very little scrutiny, or backlash against Coleman's large loss of votes.  It just doesn't make sense that Coleman would lose ~800 votes before the recount has even started.
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« Reply #18 on: November 19, 2008, 09:04:29 PM »

Franken will win this race. The Democrats will make sure of it.

Absolutely, I'm very doubtful that Coleman has enough recount efforts.  There is very little scrutiny, or backlash against Coleman's large loss of votes.  It just doesn't make sense that Coleman would lose ~800 votes before the recount has even started.

he has?
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« Reply #19 on: November 19, 2008, 09:04:57 PM »

Question:

Does this recount ONLY look at votes for Minnesota Senate and therefore only affect that vote total?  Or will this affect other races as well (e.g. President, house elections, etc.)?
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« Reply #20 on: November 19, 2008, 09:05:52 PM »

Franken will win this race. The Democrats will make sure of it.

Absolutely, I'm very doubtful that Coleman has enough recount efforts.  There is very little scrutiny, or backlash against Coleman's large loss of votes.  It just doesn't make sense that Coleman would lose ~800 votes before the recount has even started.

he has?

You don't remember when Coleman was leading by 1000 votes after all of the absentees/provisionals were counted?  Cause I do.
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« Reply #21 on: November 19, 2008, 09:07:42 PM »

Franken will win this race. The Democrats will make sure of it.

Absolutely, I'm very doubtful that Coleman has enough recount efforts.  There is very little scrutiny, or backlash against Coleman's large loss of votes.  It just doesn't make sense that Coleman would lose ~800 votes before the recount has even started.

he has?

You don't remember when Coleman was leading by 1000 votes after all of the absentees/provisionals were counted?  Cause I do.

this was before some lady in some county saw she entered Franken's vote total incorrectly.  She had entered in "100" when she meant to enter in "1000"...or something like that.
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« Reply #22 on: November 19, 2008, 09:11:06 PM »

Today's recount results:

Nov. 4 Ballots Cast for Norm Coleman   195708
Nov. 4 Ballots Cast for Al Franken   180950
 
Recounted Data   Totals   Percent
RECOUNT Number of Ballots for Coleman (as recounted)   195638   43.25
RECOUNT Number of Ballots for Franken (as recounted)   180923   39.99
RECOUNT Number of All Other Ballots (as recounted)   75585   16.71
RECOUNT COLEMAN and Other Ballots Challenged By FRANKEN   106   0.02
RECOUNT FRANKEN and Other Ballots Challenged By COLEMAN   115   0.03

Percentage of Ballots Recounted = 15.49 %

Recount (so far)Sad
Coleman: - 70
Franken: - 27

Net Result: Coleman - 43 votes

http://electionresults.sos.state.mn.us/20081104/SenateRecount.asp



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« Reply #23 on: November 19, 2008, 09:15:09 PM »

Most of the change today has to do with the St. Louis County and the outdated Eagle scanners they use.  About half of them have been counted, according to this story:

http://www.startribune.com/politics/national/senate/34736454.html?elr=KArksLckD8EQDUoaEyqyP4O:DW3ckUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aULPQL7PQLanchO7DiUs
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« Reply #24 on: November 19, 2008, 09:20:21 PM »

Franken will win this race. The Democrats will make sure of it.

Absolutely, I'm very doubtful that Coleman has enough recount efforts.  There is very little scrutiny, or backlash against Coleman's large loss of votes.  It just doesn't make sense that Coleman would lose ~800 votes before the recount has even started.

Not only that, but I've read that some votes that came in for Franken from certain counties, like 4 out of the entire state, showed results that were almost statistically impossible. They certainly are making sure he's getting the votes, and if he doesn't win the initial recount, they'll "find" more votes to make sure he gets pushed over the top.
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