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« on: November 21, 2008, 01:12:25 AM »

Good.  As long as Romney stays active and counters the pitiful Huckabee wing of the Party, we still have hope.
Wouldn't you say Chambliss is a part of that Huckabee wing of the party?

Yes, I would.  And I don't particularly care if he is reelected.  But as long as Romney remains just as relevant in places like Georgia as Huckabee, it's a good sign.  If Huckabee can solidify his support anywhere, we're headed down a slippery slope towards a horrible, horrible place.

You Libertarian devils make me laugh. Your "Free Market" and "Fiscal Responsibility" Bullsh**t is the reason why us Republicans lost this year, as well as the economic recession.
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« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2008, 01:20:28 AM »

Good.  As long as Romney stays active and counters the pitiful Huckabee wing of the Party, we still have hope.
Wouldn't you say Chambliss is a part of that Huckabee wing of the party?

Yes, I would.  And I don't particularly care if he is reelected.  But as long as Romney remains just as relevant in places like Georgia as Huckabee, it's a good sign.  If Huckabee can solidify his support anywhere, we're headed down a slippery slope towards a horrible, horrible place.

You Libertarian devils make me laugh. Your "Free Market" and "Fiscal Responsibility" Bullsh**t is the reason why us Republicans lost this year, as well as the economic recession.

The reason we lost is because we didn't adhere to those principles. No need to argue this over and over again.

Whatever you're smoking sonny, it sure is strong. If the lack of Libertarianism is why we lost, then the corporate dickheads' evil mind control IS strong.
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« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2008, 01:25:16 AM »

Good.  As long as Romney stays active and counters the pitiful Huckabee wing of the Party, we still have hope.
Wouldn't you say Chambliss is a part of that Huckabee wing of the party?

Yes, I would.  And I don't particularly care if he is reelected.  But as long as Romney remains just as relevant in places like Georgia as Huckabee, it's a good sign.  If Huckabee can solidify his support anywhere, we're headed down a slippery slope towards a horrible, horrible place.

You Libertarian devils make me laugh. Your "Free Market" and "Fiscal Responsibility" Bullsh**t is the reason why us Republicans lost this year, as well as the economic recession.

The reason we lost is because we didn't adhere to those principles. No need to argue this over and over again.

Whatever you're smoking sonny, it sure is strong. If the lack of Libertarianism is why we lost, then the corporate dickheads' evil mind control IS strong.

What the GOP has been doing since 2003 is hardly "libertarian." You need to get your definitions straight here. We have expanded the government more than anyone since LBJ. We are now in the process of having the government bailout all our struggling industries. How is that "libertarian" to you? Bush and his men are the ones doing this. He's not a fiscal conservative.

If we had opposed Bush's big spending economic plan, we may have done better in this election. We need to get away from this "Me-too" Republicanism.

If he increased the government, it must be some weird sector that helps the rich along with the Libertarian Markets. We need the government to help the poor and working classes, not the corporate dickheads like Libertarians and Bush have done. Your Libertarianism would be just like Bush, helping the strong and hurting the weak sonny.
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« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2008, 01:34:43 AM »

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Cutting taxes isn't the entire agenda for fiscal responsibility.  I just want to ask you a question: who creates the jobs in America?  Do they happen to include these "evil corporations"? 

Raising taxes doesn't do much else than give away money to government agendas that spend YOUR money.  Isn't it better for you to choose how to spend your own money rather than the government forcefully taking it away from you?

I agree that there have to be limits, but they have to be minimal.  Your notion that there has been fiscal responsibility in the past 8 years is false.

Then tell Bush and McConnell to drop the claim if they actually haven't. We need to stop being so lax and regulate the economy, stop outsourcing, stop bailing out these corporates, and help the middle and poor class.
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« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2008, 01:37:31 AM »


Because, we are in a recession caused by the lack of government support, and if we don't act quick, we'll probably have another depression.
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« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2008, 01:48:39 AM »

Mr. Dole needs to be a Democrat. Even Huckabee will disappoint him if he were to ever, heaven forbid, become President.

These "evil" corporations create jobs just as much as the small businesses. If you don't want to bail them out, Mr. Dole, then you aren't a populist. You can't have it both ways.

Too much regulation helped cause this because of people like Clinton and Carter forced banks to make unsafe loans in order to get poor people into homes. They are poor for a reason and don't need to live in $400,000 homes.

1. Why should I be Democrat, and why would Huckabee dissapoint me?

2. How is that both ways? I think that kissing rich people's asses is what you Libertarians do, and I want no part of that.

3. You are a sick man, not every poor person is poor because they are lazy.
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« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2008, 01:55:56 AM »

Then tell Bush and McConnell to drop the claim if they actually haven't. We need to stop being so lax and regulate the economy, stop outsourcing, stop bailing out these corporates, and help the middle and poor class.

Because, we are in a recession caused by the lack of government support, and if we don't act quick, we'll probably have another depression.

I don't mean to gang up on you, but you just criticized government bailouts and "lack of government support" within five minutes.  How do you comport the two? 

Also, I'm curious as to why your display name is "Huckabee/Thune '12" when the prospective Obama/Biden economic policy should be music to your ears. 

1. Because, when I was hoping the government would care for us, they end up bailing out the evil rich, and I was enraged. Why not help the workers?

2. Because, I think Obama and Biden are really full of hot air, and I am not sure if I can really trust them.
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« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2008, 01:59:45 AM »


Damn sonny .. You gave money to Chambliss EVEN after what he did to Cleland in 2002? I was right, Fiscal Conservatives only care about money.
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« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2008, 02:06:32 AM »


1. Because, when I was hoping the government would care for us, they end up bailing out the evil rich, and I was enraged. Why not help the workers?


Do you not consider employees of financial institutions to be "workers"?  If by "workers" you mean "blue-collar workers," do you realize how much those workers depend on the solvency of the"evil" financial institutions? 

If these corporations are so damn good, then why did they put us in an economic recession, Hm Sonny?
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« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2008, 03:06:04 AM »

Mr. Dole needs to be a Democrat. Even Huckabee will disappoint him if he were to ever, heaven forbid, become President.

These "evil" corporations create jobs just as much as the small businesses. If you don't want to bail them out, Mr. Dole, then you aren't a populist. You can't have it both ways.

Too much regulation helped cause this because of people like Clinton and Carter forced banks to make unsafe loans in order to get poor people into homes. They are poor for a reason and don't need to live in $400,000 homes.

1. Why should I be Democrat, and why would Huckabee dissapoint me?

2. How is that both ways? I think that kissing rich people's asses is what you Libertarians do, and I want no part of that.

3. You are a sick man, not every poor person is poor because they are lazy.

1. Because what you are looking for is going to come from the Democratic Party, not the Republican Party. If we were to do what you want, we'd essentially be Democrats with conservative social views. Those types already exist in the Democratic Party. And Huckabee is for eliminating the income tax all together, so they'd pay no taxes essentially. He's more radical on that end that I am.

2. You want to create jobs and yet attack those "evil" corporations who create them?  It isn't libertarian at all to bailout companies. In that regard, you are the libertarian, not the Republicans.

3. I didn't say that. I said not all poor people need to have a $400,000 house. We can't give everyone a lifestyle like that.

Well, what do you know? You're for small/no government, how do you even know about anything you want to completely delete?
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« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2008, 03:09:01 AM »

Mr. Dole needs to be a Democrat. Even Huckabee will disappoint him if he were to ever, heaven forbid, become President.

These "evil" corporations create jobs just as much as the small businesses. If you don't want to bail them out, Mr. Dole, then you aren't a populist. You can't have it both ways.

Too much regulation helped cause this because of people like Clinton and Carter forced banks to make unsafe loans in order to get poor people into homes. They are poor for a reason and don't need to live in $400,000 homes.

1. Why should I be Democrat, and why would Huckabee dissapoint me?

2. How is that both ways? I think that kissing rich people's asses is what you Libertarians do, and I want no part of that.

3. You are a sick man, not every poor person is poor because they are lazy.

1. Because what you are looking for is going to come from the Democratic Party, not the Republican Party. If we were to do what you want, we'd essentially be Democrats with conservative social views. Those types already exist in the Democratic Party. And Huckabee is for eliminating the income tax all together, so they'd pay no taxes essentially. He's more radical on that end that I am.

2. You want to create jobs and yet attack those "evil" corporations who create them?  It isn't libertarian at all to bailout companies. In that regard, you are the libertarian, not the Republicans.

3. I didn't say that. I said not all poor people need to have a $400,000 house. We can't give everyone a lifestyle like that.

Well, what do you know? You're for small/no government, how do you even know about anything you want to completely delete?

The guy who cured Smallpox probably knew a little bit about Smallpox.

Curing a disease is different from managing the government.
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« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2008, 03:11:22 AM »

Mr. Dole needs to be a Democrat. Even Huckabee will disappoint him if he were to ever, heaven forbid, become President.

These "evil" corporations create jobs just as much as the small businesses. If you don't want to bail them out, Mr. Dole, then you aren't a populist. You can't have it both ways.

Too much regulation helped cause this because of people like Clinton and Carter forced banks to make unsafe loans in order to get poor people into homes. They are poor for a reason and don't need to live in $400,000 homes.

1. Why should I be Democrat, and why would Huckabee dissapoint me?

2. How is that both ways? I think that kissing rich people's asses is what you Libertarians do, and I want no part of that.

3. You are a sick man, not every poor person is poor because they are lazy.

1. Because what you are looking for is going to come from the Democratic Party, not the Republican Party. If we were to do what you want, we'd essentially be Democrats with conservative social views. Those types already exist in the Democratic Party. And Huckabee is for eliminating the income tax all together, so they'd pay no taxes essentially. He's more radical on that end that I am.

2. You want to create jobs and yet attack those "evil" corporations who create them?  It isn't libertarian at all to bailout companies. In that regard, you are the libertarian, not the Republicans.

3. I didn't say that. I said not all poor people need to have a $400,000 house. We can't give everyone a lifestyle like that.

Well, what do you know? You're for small/no government, how do you even know about anything you want to completely delete?

The guy who cured Smallpox probably knew a little bit about Smallpox.

Curing a disease is different from managing the government.

He calls for the eradication of government (in many ways, a disease) because he has seen, in specific ways, how horrible it can be for the economy.

If the government is horrible for the economy, why did Obama win the election then?
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« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2008, 03:14:34 AM »

Mr. Dole needs to be a Democrat. Even Huckabee will disappoint him if he were to ever, heaven forbid, become President.

These "evil" corporations create jobs just as much as the small businesses. If you don't want to bail them out, Mr. Dole, then you aren't a populist. You can't have it both ways.

Too much regulation helped cause this because of people like Clinton and Carter forced banks to make unsafe loans in order to get poor people into homes. They are poor for a reason and don't need to live in $400,000 homes.

1. Why should I be Democrat, and why would Huckabee dissapoint me?

2. How is that both ways? I think that kissing rich people's asses is what you Libertarians do, and I want no part of that.

3. You are a sick man, not every poor person is poor because they are lazy.

1. Because what you are looking for is going to come from the Democratic Party, not the Republican Party. If we were to do what you want, we'd essentially be Democrats with conservative social views. Those types already exist in the Democratic Party. And Huckabee is for eliminating the income tax all together, so they'd pay no taxes essentially. He's more radical on that end that I am.

2. You want to create jobs and yet attack those "evil" corporations who create them?  It isn't libertarian at all to bailout companies. In that regard, you are the libertarian, not the Republicans.

3. I didn't say that. I said not all poor people need to have a $400,000 house. We can't give everyone a lifestyle like that.

Well, what do you know? You're for small/no government, how do you even know about anything you want to completely delete?

The guy who cured Smallpox probably knew a little bit about Smallpox.

Curing a disease is different from managing the government.

He calls for the eradication of government (in many ways, a disease) because he has seen, in specific ways, how horrible it can be for the economy.

If the government is horrible for the economy, why did Obama win the election then?

Because, to paraphrase Ronald Reagan, liberals know so much that just isn't so.

I'll tell you why that sniveling Obama won, Bush used the government to implode itself and help the rich get rich and the poor get poorer. People saw that, and since a Populist like Huckabee wasn't the nominee, we lost on a campaign of Fiscal Conservatism.

Damnit, where are the Democrats where you need them?
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« Reply #13 on: November 21, 2008, 03:19:20 AM »

Mr. Dole needs to be a Democrat. Even Huckabee will disappoint him if he were to ever, heaven forbid, become President.

These "evil" corporations create jobs just as much as the small businesses. If you don't want to bail them out, Mr. Dole, then you aren't a populist. You can't have it both ways.

Too much regulation helped cause this because of people like Clinton and Carter forced banks to make unsafe loans in order to get poor people into homes. They are poor for a reason and don't need to live in $400,000 homes.

1. Why should I be Democrat, and why would Huckabee dissapoint me?

2. How is that both ways? I think that kissing rich people's asses is what you Libertarians do, and I want no part of that.

3. You are a sick man, not every poor person is poor because they are lazy.

1. Because what you are looking for is going to come from the Democratic Party, not the Republican Party. If we were to do what you want, we'd essentially be Democrats with conservative social views. Those types already exist in the Democratic Party. And Huckabee is for eliminating the income tax all together, so they'd pay no taxes essentially. He's more radical on that end that I am.

2. You want to create jobs and yet attack those "evil" corporations who create them?  It isn't libertarian at all to bailout companies. In that regard, you are the libertarian, not the Republicans.

3. I didn't say that. I said not all poor people need to have a $400,000 house. We can't give everyone a lifestyle like that.

Well, what do you know? You're for small/no government, how do you even know about anything you want to completely delete?

Uh, you're hero Mike Huckabee wants to get rid of the income tax. Where have I said I want to delete the entire government? Seriously, your arguments need to make sense, not just be compiled of blind accusations.

If he wants to rid the income tax, why has he called for The FairTax (which is another system in income tax)
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« Reply #14 on: November 21, 2008, 03:22:16 AM »

Mr. Dole needs to be a Democrat. Even Huckabee will disappoint him if he were to ever, heaven forbid, become President.

These "evil" corporations create jobs just as much as the small businesses. If you don't want to bail them out, Mr. Dole, then you aren't a populist. You can't have it both ways.

Too much regulation helped cause this because of people like Clinton and Carter forced banks to make unsafe loans in order to get poor people into homes. They are poor for a reason and don't need to live in $400,000 homes.

1. Why should I be Democrat, and why would Huckabee dissapoint me?

2. How is that both ways? I think that kissing rich people's asses is what you Libertarians do, and I want no part of that.

3. You are a sick man, not every poor person is poor because they are lazy.

1. Because what you are looking for is going to come from the Democratic Party, not the Republican Party. If we were to do what you want, we'd essentially be Democrats with conservative social views. Those types already exist in the Democratic Party. And Huckabee is for eliminating the income tax all together, so they'd pay no taxes essentially. He's more radical on that end that I am.

2. You want to create jobs and yet attack those "evil" corporations who create them?  It isn't libertarian at all to bailout companies. In that regard, you are the libertarian, not the Republicans.

3. I didn't say that. I said not all poor people need to have a $400,000 house. We can't give everyone a lifestyle like that.

Well, what do you know? You're for small/no government, how do you even know about anything you want to completely delete?

Uh, you're hero Mike Huckabee wants to get rid of the income tax. Where have I said I want to delete the entire government? Seriously, your arguments need to make sense, not just be compiled of blind accusations.

If he wants to rid the income tax, why has he called for The FairTax (which is another system in income tax)

The FairTax is a form of regressive taxation, one of the least "populist" ideas ever conceived.

Wait, then why does everyone call Huckabee a Populist if he isn't? Man, EVERYONE in politics must be stupid now.
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« Reply #15 on: November 21, 2008, 03:26:27 AM »

Mr. Dole needs to be a Democrat. Even Huckabee will disappoint him if he were to ever, heaven forbid, become President.

These "evil" corporations create jobs just as much as the small businesses. If you don't want to bail them out, Mr. Dole, then you aren't a populist. You can't have it both ways.

Too much regulation helped cause this because of people like Clinton and Carter forced banks to make unsafe loans in order to get poor people into homes. They are poor for a reason and don't need to live in $400,000 homes.

1. Why should I be Democrat, and why would Huckabee dissapoint me?

2. How is that both ways? I think that kissing rich people's asses is what you Libertarians do, and I want no part of that.

3. You are a sick man, not every poor person is poor because they are lazy.

1. Because what you are looking for is going to come from the Democratic Party, not the Republican Party. If we were to do what you want, we'd essentially be Democrats with conservative social views. Those types already exist in the Democratic Party. And Huckabee is for eliminating the income tax all together, so they'd pay no taxes essentially. He's more radical on that end that I am.

2. You want to create jobs and yet attack those "evil" corporations who create them?  It isn't libertarian at all to bailout companies. In that regard, you are the libertarian, not the Republicans.

3. I didn't say that. I said not all poor people need to have a $400,000 house. We can't give everyone a lifestyle like that.

Well, what do you know? You're for small/no government, how do you even know about anything you want to completely delete?

Uh, you're hero Mike Huckabee wants to get rid of the income tax. Where have I said I want to delete the entire government? Seriously, your arguments need to make sense, not just be compiled of blind accusations.

If he wants to rid the income tax, why has he called for The FairTax (which is another system in income tax)

The FairTax is a form of regressive taxation, one of the least "populist" ideas ever conceived.

Wait, then why does everyone call Huckabee a Populist if he isn't? Man, EVERYONE in politics must be stupid now.

Because he's relatively economically liberal for a Republican, but he's still center-right.

I see, eh ... too bad The Social Liberals have taken over the DNC, I have to decide where to go.
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« Reply #16 on: November 21, 2008, 03:31:34 AM »

Mr. Dole needs to be a Democrat. Even Huckabee will disappoint him if he were to ever, heaven forbid, become President.

These "evil" corporations create jobs just as much as the small businesses. If you don't want to bail them out, Mr. Dole, then you aren't a populist. You can't have it both ways.

Too much regulation helped cause this because of people like Clinton and Carter forced banks to make unsafe loans in order to get poor people into homes. They are poor for a reason and don't need to live in $400,000 homes.

1. Why should I be Democrat, and why would Huckabee dissapoint me?

2. How is that both ways? I think that kissing rich people's asses is what you Libertarians do, and I want no part of that.

3. You are a sick man, not every poor person is poor because they are lazy.

1. Because what you are looking for is going to come from the Democratic Party, not the Republican Party. If we were to do what you want, we'd essentially be Democrats with conservative social views. Those types already exist in the Democratic Party. And Huckabee is for eliminating the income tax all together, so they'd pay no taxes essentially. He's more radical on that end that I am.

2. You want to create jobs and yet attack those "evil" corporations who create them?  It isn't libertarian at all to bailout companies. In that regard, you are the libertarian, not the Republicans.

3. I didn't say that. I said not all poor people need to have a $400,000 house. We can't give everyone a lifestyle like that.

Well, what do you know? You're for small/no government, how do you even know about anything you want to completely delete?

Uh, you're hero Mike Huckabee wants to get rid of the income tax. Where have I said I want to delete the entire government? Seriously, your arguments need to make sense, not just be compiled of blind accusations.

If he wants to rid the income tax, why has he called for The FairTax (which is another system in income tax)

The FairTax is a form of regressive taxation, one of the least "populist" ideas ever conceived.

Wait, then why does everyone call Huckabee a Populist if he isn't? Man, EVERYONE in politics must be stupid now.

Because he's relatively economically liberal for a Republican, but he's still center-right.

I see, eh ... too bad The Social Liberals have taken over the DNC, I have to decide where to go.

You seem more of a Maoist than a Marxist, and I don't think they have a party right now... you should start one.

Alright, but why am I am a Maoist? I thought I was a unique form of Populism.
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« Reply #17 on: November 21, 2008, 04:02:19 PM »

Alright, but why am I am a Maoist? I thought I was a unique form of Populism.

If you are indeed considered a Maoist, you are not like any I have met before. Or I am confusing my extremely left-wing teachers with that of Trotskyist beliefs? Nonetheless, I don't consider yourself to be a Maoist Mr. Dole, but rather a particular type of person that is delusional as to where he belongs politically.

Anywho, as much as it seems on the surface that Romney is not planning for another run at the White House in 2012, such moves undertaken by potential presidential candidates are often bound to lead in that direction. Thus, I really wouldn't be surprised at all when Romney decides to run for the White House in 2012, if both Coleman and Chambliss endorse his candidacy. Though that might be going too far. 

Yeah, I consider myself more of a Huey-Long-ite (minus the extreme racism).
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« Reply #18 on: November 21, 2008, 08:06:18 PM »

The Maoist comment was really just a not-so-subtle way to call you a communist.

And yes, I'd say you are more of a "Share Our Wealth" guy than anything else.

1. I am a commie? Lol

2. Yeah, I am basically Obama without all the Liberalism, I would've probably done better in The South if I were nominee.
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