Want to depress yourself further? Look at Southern precinct results!

[minionofmidas]

Louisiana readily provides them. Other states too I suppose, too lazy to search.

So far I've done all parishes beginning in a. I'll probably not continue as you'll get the drill once I'm finished with this post. Although I might do requests.

Acadia
Parishwide: McCain 72.0, Obama 26.3
8 precincts won by Obama, summed: Obama 84.8, McCain 14.5
51 precincts plus absentees and provisionals won by McCain, summed: McCain 78.7, Obama 19.5
percentage of Obama voters to vote in Obama precincts: 33.5%
percentage of McCain voters to vote in Obama precincts: 2.1%

Allen
Parishwide: McCain 66.9, Obama 30.5
6 precincts won by Obama, summed: Obama 87.2, McCain 11.9
23 precincts plus absentees and provisionals won by McCain, summed (one precinct had no votes cast): McCain 73.8, Obama 23.4
percentage of Obama voters to vote in Obama precincts: 31.9%
percentage of McCain voters to vote in Obama precincts: 2.0%

Ascension
Parishwide: McCain 67.1, Obama 31.4
16 precincts won by Obama, summed: Obama 73.2, McCain 25.6
45 precincts plus absentees and provisionals won by McCain, summed: McCain 73.9, Obama 24.5
percentage of Obama voters to vote in Obama precincts: 32.9%
percentage of McCain voters to vote in Obama precincts: 5.4%

Assumption - this one sticks out, and it seems not just due to having more Blacks
Parishwide: McCain 54.6, Obama 43.4
9 precincts plus absentees won by Obama, summed: Obama 64.2, McCain 34.5
14 precincts won by McCain, summed (no provisional votes were successfully cast in the parish): McCain 71.7, Obama 25.7
percentage of Obama voters to vote in Obama precincts: 68.1%
percentage of McCain voters to vote in Obama precincts: 29.1%

Avoyelles
Parishwide: McCain 60.4, Obama 37.4
12 precincts won by Obama, summed: Obama 67.1, McCain 31.5
33 precincts plus absentees and provisionals won by McCain, summed: McCain 71.1, Obama 26.4 (one precinct was tied. It is not included in either figure here)
percentage of Obama voters to vote in Obama precincts: 45.7%
percentage of McCain voters to vote in Obama precincts: 13.2%

[minionofmidas]

Does Alabama post them? The Black Belt should be interesting, as should the Northern Appalachian region of the state.

They might once they certify, I've no clue. 3 days ago the state website wouldn't even you tell when they are going to certify.

[minionofmidas]

I never said race didn't play a factor, but its not the definitive you guys are making it out to be. Theres  many different reasons for those numbers.  FDR was the last northen Liberal democrat to win in the in the south.

We're assuming there is a reason for that, and it is called "racism".

[minionofmidas]

I never said race didn't play a factor, but its not the definitive you guys are making it out to be. Theres  many different reasons for those numbers.  FDR was the last northen Liberal democrat to win in the in the south.

We're assuming there is a reason for that, and it is called "racism".

Well I guess according to some - the south is just a bunch of racist bigoted people.

No, that's not what I meant really.

[minionofmidas]

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*cough* Take a look at when and how this happened. You're confusing cause and effect a little there.

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I'm not sure how many times I'll repeat it over the next four years (probably over a thousand times ) but people who voted for the party of Black voting rights a lot of the time, then balked at the prospect of actually voting for Black President, are less likely to be disgustingly racist than people who abandoned the Democrats for good, at least at the Presidential level (but, most of them if typically a little later, downballot as well) as soon as they became identified with Black voting rights.

Obama did pretty good in the south even picked off 2 southern states.

Oh, absolutely! He did great in most fast-growing Southern metro areas, better than could have been expected. And Black turnout alone certainly doesn't explain it. Parts of the South are finally coming good.
Meanwhile, he lost a sizable chunk of what there still was left to lose of traditional class based rural white Democratism. This almost certainly had something to do with his race (but also his "foreignness" etc. And his general relative appeal in more urban areas, observable everywhere outside the Upper Midwest.) but, again, see part 2 of this post.

My purpose in creating this thread was not the 2008 swings, anyhow, but the general situation that has prevailed since, oh about 1976 or so - Since Blacks have been voting at comparable rates to Whites - but especially since 2000. And especially the really remarkable aspect of these patterns, which could be summed up in the word "micro-level regional polarization". I was just demonstrating a new way of crunching the numbers and showing things.

[minionofmidas]

Ah. Not really aware of the Ohio pattern before, probably because it didn't lead to any county losses.
New York's hardly comparable though. (For fun with media markets, have a glance at Indiana.)

[minionofmidas]

It's that bulge-shaped area east of Raleigh that I don't really get.

Perhaps a combination of a number of factors... growth, blacks, media markets etc.

"Growth" struck because there isn't much.

[minionofmidas]

I'm currently looking at New Orleans precinct results, in the hope of locating a precinct map soon and then being able to give a good overview of what parts of the city have lost population, what parts have gotten blacker, what parts have gotten whiter, over the past four years. (I'll probably look at St Bernard parish too).

Anyways, I've just noticed that 70%+ of McKinney's vote in New Orleans came from absentee votes, giving an absentee voting result of Obama 84.5%, McCain 10.1%, McKinney 4.3%. Wtf?

I have also so far not seen any unanimous Obama precinct, but I've seen four with only one vote for another candidate, and in only one of them was that candidate called "McCain". Two were all Obama except one McKinney, and one was all Obama except one La Riva.

[minionofmidas]

Yes! I've found a set of precinct maps! Will get to work soon!

http://www.nocitycouncil.com/districtsAndMaps.asp

 (also a couple of beautiful maps of the mayoral race at a blog, but that didn't have precinct numbers)

Oh, update: There are a few unanimous precincts. Also precincts where the only non-Obama vote was for Paul (2), Baldwin (1), or the Socialist Workers guy (1).

[minionofmidas]

I've decided to widen the scope to include the 2006 (both rounds) and 2008 (all three rounds) house races.