Want to depress yourself further? Look at Southern precinct results!

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Heres the problem the intellectuals Liberals come in with their stats and charts saying you're a racist because you didn't vote for Obama.  Micro- analyze us southern folks as bigoted, yet its not race!  Its the issues and how liberals go about things. John Kerry was just as disliked here, hell Obama actually had somewhat of a chance in Georiga.  He won 45% of the vote in Carolina ( I didn't think he would get over 38-39% in any of those states), but I wanna be honest with you aswell - Yes we do have pockets of racism, theres no question about it.

I don't like the broad message of "the south is racist" because they didn't vote for the black guy.

I think the swings against Obama, while the rest of the country swung towards him, is the biggest indictment of the south. Now this only applies to rural areas, and one of the reasons why we saw GA and NC swinging hard towards Obama. Most of the other swings towards Obama is explained by higher black turnout. Where the white swing against Obama shows up is in places like Tennessee and Oklahoma, where the black population is low. Still it only hurt Obama on the margins and it is unlikely he would have got much more white votes if he was named barry olsen and was white. Southerners just don't like liberals.

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Heres the problem the intellectuals Liberals come in with their stats and charts saying you're a racist because you didn't vote for Obama.  Micro- analyze us southern folks as bigoted, yet its not race!  Its the issues and how liberals go about things. John Kerry was just as disliked here, hell Obama actually had somewhat of a chance in Georiga.  He won 45% of the vote in Carolina ( I didn't think he would get over 38-39% in any of those states), but I wanna be honest with you aswell - Yes we do have pockets of racism, theres no question about it.

I don't like the broad message of "the south is racist" because they didn't vote for the black guy.

I think the swings against Obama, while the rest of the country swung towards him, is the biggest indictment of the south. Now this only applies to rural areas, and one of the reasons why we saw GA and NC swinging hard towards Obama. Most of the other swings towards Obama is explained by higher black turnout. Where the white swing against Obama shows up is in places like Tennessee and Oklahoma, where the black population is low. Still it only hurt Obama on the margins and it is unlikely he would have got much more white votes if he was named barry olsen and was white. Southerners just don't like liberals.

My whole point.  A Democrat can win in the south if we brings the right types of views with him. Bill Clinton was able to be a moderate or atleast pretend in 92'  and won a few southern states.  The Bill Clinton of today Probably couldn't carry any of those states he did in 1992 and we saw them trend back gop in 96'.

Yes a national democrat who wants to win a primary must move left on social issues, and that is toxic in the south. The only exceptions would be the urban areas where people from all over the country are in the mix. This is why Obama won NC and why he could keep it close in GA.

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There has been some suggestions that the Dems should move there first caucus ( Iowa) to be a southern state.

Well there is SC. I really don't see why the dems need to appeal more to the south though. It is obvious that democrats are growing most in the west, so maybe we should add a primary in the west early on in addition to the Nevada caucus. As long as democrats can be competitive in at least a few southern states, they should be fine.

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This was suggestion before the thumping the GOP received Nov 4Th by the way.

Ahh yes this was before the western battleground was created. If things had tightened more, this could have been the first time in a long time democrats have won the presidency without winning a single southern state.