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Volrath50
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Maximum Landslides
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September 21, 2004, 07:08:01 pm »
Barring one of the candidates going on a shooting spree, what is the maximum you can see each winning in November?
For me:
Bush landslide:
Bush - 385
Kerry - 153
Kerry landslide:
Kerry - 341
Bush - 197
Kerry landslide _much_ more unlikely though.
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Re:Maximum Landslides
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September 21, 2004, 07:11:38 pm »
In the Bush landslide scenario he likely also wins Maine.
In the Kerry landslide he would likely get Arkansas and maybe Colorado and NC.
Both sides have +/- 200 EVs that barring a "shooting spree" they are darn likely to hold on to.
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Re:Maximum Landslides
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September 21, 2004, 07:23:58 pm »
In a maximum landslide in favor of Bush, MD and DE fall for him as well.
In a maximum landslide for Kerry, I'd give him NC, AR, and maybe TN and/or VA.
We're talking max here, which has a little above zero chance of happening, IMO.
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Re:Maximum Landslides
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September 21, 2004, 07:29:15 pm »
I would say that in a "Max Landslide" Bush would have a shot a Calf.
Kerry would get Arkansas, Arizona and maybe North Carolina.
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AuH2O
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Re:Maximum Landslides
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September 21, 2004, 08:01:17 pm »
Kerry has no chance of losing:
DC
Massachussetts
Rhode Island
Connecticut
That's it. In a Bush landslide, hardcore Dem states will fall like dominoes, ala 1984.
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A18
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Re:Maximum Landslides
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September 21, 2004, 08:31:37 pm »
Max Kerry - 361 to 177
Max Bush - 523 to 15
Hey, they say Bush is like Nixon.
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Gabu
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Re:Maximum Landslides
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September 21, 2004, 10:26:40 pm »
Quote from: Philip on September 21, 2004, 08:31:37 pm
Hey, they say Bush is like Nixon.
Oh, good.
Kerry wins!
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A18
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Re:Maximum Landslides
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September 21, 2004, 10:29:27 pm »
Actually, would that still be a win for Kerry using today's EVs?
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Gabu
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Re:Maximum Landslides
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September 21, 2004, 10:31:58 pm »
Quote from: Philip on September 21, 2004, 10:29:27 pm
Actually, would that still be a win for Kerry using today's EVs?
Good question. Offhand I'd say yes, given that the margin of victory was actually quite high (303-219 electoral votes), but I have no idea and am currently too lazy to figure it out.
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Re:Maximum Landslides
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September 21, 2004, 10:43:35 pm »
Kerry loses 273-250
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A18
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Re:Maximum Landslides
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September 21, 2004, 10:49:02 pm »
So there you go. I assume that Bush winning everything except Massachusetts is still a win, however.
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Gabu
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Quote from: Philip on September 21, 2004, 10:49:02 pm
So there you go. I assume that Bush winning everything except Massachusetts is still a win, however.
Of course not; on election eve they'll realize how immensely important liberals actually are and will award Massachusetts 300 electoral votes.
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Re:Maximum Landslides
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Kerry landslide wins Virginia
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Re:Maximum Landslides
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Quote from: AuH2O on September 21, 2004, 08:01:17 pm
Kerry has no chance of losing:
DC
Massachussetts
Rhode Island
Connecticut
That's it. In a Bush landslide, hardcore Dem states will fall like dominoes, ala 1984.
If Kerry wins CT he definitely wins NY
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jacob_101
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Re:Maximum Landslides
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September 22, 2004, 03:55:50 am »
Quote from: The Vorlon on September 21, 2004, 07:11:38 pm
In the Bush landslide scenario he likely also wins Maine.
In the Kerry landslide he would likely get Arkansas and maybe Colorado and NC.
Both sides have +/- 200 EVs that barring a "shooting spree" they are darn likely to hold on to.
Vorlon, isn't it time to move MN to light blue? In light of the most recent polls Bush is up 1-2 points. That is, unless you are counting that ever so hilarious Star Tribune poll!!!
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Demrepdan
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Re:Maximum Landslides
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October 02, 2004, 12:04:12 pm »
I don't know if Volrath50 will check this thread anytime soon (since he started it). But..I'd like to wish him a happy birthday!
And only because I noticed that he is the only person on the Atlas Forum who shares a birthday with me.
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Re:Maximum Landslides
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October 02, 2004, 12:13:18 pm »
Quote from: Demrepdan on October 02, 2004, 12:04:12 pm
I don't know if Volrath50 will check this thread anytime soon (since he started it). But..I'd like to wish him a happy birthday!
And only because I noticed that he is the only person on the Atlas Forum who shares a birthday with me.
Happy birthday to both of you. I was just in Champaign on Thursday (if you are still there), and you can consider yourself wished well almost in person if you like.
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