The most random candidate for 2012...

[Keystone Phil]

This one is going to seem a little off the wall (mainly the reason for me starting this topic) but just consider it for a minute.

Reliable conservative. Six years in the U.S. House (not tons of experience but he learned this year, rightly or wrongly, that that's not much of a priority to people these days). A familiar, personable figure.

Now maybe he's not the best choice for a Presidential candidate but how about as a Vice Presidential nominee?



So...how about Scarborough...






He'd certainly make things interesting.

[Keystone Phil]

And, for the record, I don't think the death in his district office that basically forced him to resign would be a huge deal.

[Meeker]

Pat Buchanan's constant nagging at him to get him to run in 2007 were pretty hilarious.

But I'd be down with this. I like Joe. Don't think he'd do that well though.

[Keystone Phil]

Don't think he'd do that well though.

He probably wants nothing to do with either job but it's interesting to think about (assuming he had a change of heart).

[Meeker]

Don't think he'd do that well though.

He probably wants nothing to do with either job but it's interesting to think about (assuming he had a change of heart).

Yea, he's making far too much money in his current job to want it.

I'm trying to think what type of voter he'd draw in... the same sort that liked Giuliani?

[Keystone Phil]

I'm trying to think what type of voter he'd draw in... the same sort that liked Giuliani?

He's a very interesting guy. He'd have wide appeal. I could see him drawing in a lot of Rudy supporters but he obviously has the social conservative stances and doesn't have the baggage that Rudy had.

[Jacobtm]

I feel like he'd appeal to lots of moderate Democrats who care more about things like straight-talk, personal integrity, etc. 

So he'd probably have no shot.

[Keystone Phil]

I feel like he'd appeal to lots of moderate Democrats who care more about things like straight-talk, personal integrity, etc. 

So he'd probably have no shot.

He'd have no shot because of that? I don't see why those qualities would hurt in a primary and they'd obviously help in the General.

[NOVA Green]

I'd consider voting for him....

I watched him on the MSNBC lineup for a few years after Olbermann, and much preferred his dissection of the Iraq conflict, as well as domestic politics.

I think he would be too liberal on many issues to make it through the primaries, but he is a Republican of character and intelligence more than willing to think beyond party CW.

[Keystone Phil]

I think he would be too liberal on many issues to make it through the primaries

Such as...?

[Lief 🗽]

Well, he's one of the few Republicans I don't hate. That'll doom him in the primary, probably.

Seriously, I think he would have had a bright future if he hadn't murdered that aide. (tongue in cheek, obviously, but the incident as a whole is probably not that good)

[Frozen Sky Ever Why]

I'd vote for him before anyone else on MSNBC. But that's not saying much.

[Keystone Phil]

Seriously, I think he would have had a bright future if he hadn't murdered that aide. (tongue in cheek, obviously, but the incident as a whole is probably not that good)

It's obviously not a good story to have to talk about but it would be far from fatal. He was known to be in DC at the time.

It's amazing how many liberal Dems here kind of like the guy. That's what happens when you spend a lot of your time around people of the opposite side - you know how to adapt to become socially acceptable while not changing who you actually are politically.

[Franzl]

how about Musgrave?

[Keystone Phil]

These type of comments probably don't help much - "...I made Ron Paul look like a Marixist...a Socialist...""


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j16Ar4KBkRQ


He also has a lot of nice things to say about the Obama campaign team but I don't think that that means much. I certainly don't expect him to go easy on Obama when he's President.

[Keystone Phil]

"My party loathes me..."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuVc9iRQ-Zw


Another thing that doesn't help. 

[minionofmidas]

I feel like he'd appeal to lots of moderate Democrats who care more about things like straight-talk, personal integrity, etc. 

So he'd probably have no shot.

He'd have no shot because of that? I don't see why those qualities would hurt in a primary and they'd obviously help in the General.

Maybe he was saying that the kind of potential swing voter he'd most appeal to hardly exists.

[Keystone Phil]

I feel like he'd appeal to lots of moderate Democrats who care more about things like straight-talk, personal integrity, etc. 

So he'd probably have no shot.

He'd have no shot because of that? I don't see why those qualities would hurt in a primary and they'd obviously help in the General.

Maybe he was saying that the kind of potential swing voter he'd most appeal to hardly exists.

Eh, I disagree but, whatever the case, I can see why Scarborough wouldn't be the most appealing in the GOP primary. Personally, I really like the guy but some of his criticisms of the party/his rhetoric would be twisted against him.

Good guy but probably not the best candidate.

[Four49]

I used to watch his show every morning before I went to work.  He was kind of a breath of fresh air because he isn't a hack.  Even when I disagreed with him, I at least knew he was giving an honest opinion.  I probably wouldn't vote for him in a general election, but wouldn't be upset if he somehow managed to get elected.

[Lunar]

Joe is alright.

I don't think it has even a 1 in 5000 chance of getting off the ground unless Iowans and New Hampshirinians watch an unhealthy amount of Morning Joe.

Also, doing anything for NBC is a big no-no in conservative circles.

We've never had a media guy become president and I don't know if Joe's the guy.

[Keystone Phil]

Also, doing anything for NBC is a big no-no in conservative circles.

We've never had a media guy become president and I don't know if Joe's the guy.

Reagan was President of the Screen Actors Guild. He was basically a media guy (though not "news media"). It could be like Romney being Governor in MA - a "hero" inside of enemy territory.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

I'd consider voting for him.  I watch Morning Joe every morning, and really like the guy.

[Four49]

Joe is alright.

I don't think it has even a 1 in 5000 chance of getting off the ground unless Iowans and New Hampshirinians watch an unhealthy amount of Morning Joe.

Also, doing anything for NBC is a big no-no in conservative circles.

We've never had a media guy become president and I don't know if Joe's the guy.

I think conservatives should be happy to have Joe on MSNBC.  He doesn't bow down to anyone and it hasn't changed him.  At least they have the only non-hack on that entire network.

Reagan was also a sports broadcaster.

[Joe Republic]

He's a good, decent, steady man who doesn't go around flipping people off or yelling "f**k you" at the top of his lungs.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

I could vote for him, but he would never win.