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Question: When will unemployment rate reach 7.6%?
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Sam Spade
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« on: January 09, 2009, 01:27:06 PM »

Not only is it not 7.6% in the more realistic number (U-6), but also the government likes to add a number of fake jobs in its early part of the year reports.  So, it might be a while before we get there.
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Sam Spade
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« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2009, 04:41:44 PM »

U-6 went from 13.4% to 13.9% adjusted.

I should note that if you remove the seasonal adjustments garbage, you get:

U3 = 8.5% unadjusted; U6 = 15.4% unadjusted.

Seasonal adjustment usually means that the after-holiday January layoff spree gets under-stated.  Other data in there suggests to me that a lot of independent contractors, sole proprietors and small businesses went bust last month.

What that means overall is that the adjusted numbers (7.6% and 13.9%) are likely to get revised downward.  By a good bit too.

Ignoring all the garbage that will be added through the next six months or so, I think a reasonable U-6 number guess at the end of 2009 is 20%.

That's a depression, folks.
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« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2009, 07:11:18 PM »

The next question is whether the unemployment rate  (U3) will reach or exceed 9.6% between now and the 2010 elections?

I dunno.  How much do you think the numbers can be fudged?
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