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« on: November 27, 2008, 02:00:08 AM »

No, but seriously. Will The GOP ever appeal to minorities? It looked like on 2004 that they'd survive.

But When the Democrats Get:

90%+ African Americans
70%+ Latin Americans
90%+ Asian Americans

That is cause for concern for the GOP, Because they US is getting more diverse, Latinos should account for 1/3 of the population in 2100, and if they continue to be solid Dems. The GOP is screwed. Mike Huckabee has seen this, but he was popular among African Americans in Arkansas, He got 48% of their vote.
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« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2008, 02:09:03 AM »

Eventually political necessity will force them to.
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« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2008, 11:00:59 AM »

racism is declining over time so there'll be less and less seperate 'minority votes'
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« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2008, 11:07:25 AM »

Mixing of races makes the issue moot in fifty years.  They'll make huge inroads with Hispanics and possibly Asians, I don't see blacks voting more than 10% GOP anytime soon
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« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2008, 11:15:50 AM »

the category 'hispanic' will only be around for a generation or two more tops anyways so it's a moot point
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« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2008, 02:47:10 PM »

the category 'hispanic' will only be around for a generation or two more tops anyways so it's a moot point

Not true.

It's true that some will be assimilated but it's not like first-generation migration is going to stop.
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« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2008, 02:48:41 PM »


I'll teach them to be appealed to me!

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« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2008, 03:06:23 PM »

No, thats why they need to close the border before its to late.
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« Reply #8 on: November 27, 2008, 06:13:16 PM »

the category 'hispanic' will only be around for a generation or two more tops anyways so it's a moot point

Not true.

It's true that some will be assimilated but it's not like first-generation migration is going to stop.

birthrates are slowing in latin america combined with rapidly increasing levels of intermarriage of latins

does the category 'hispanic' mean anything when half the population, including some pale people with anglo first/last names technically fit into it?
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« Reply #9 on: November 27, 2008, 09:01:11 PM »

Lets look at the three groups mentioned :

Blacks, tend to be easily led around by the nose in politics. Won't be changing unless influential people in their community somehow completely do a 180 in their political belief set. Maybe the increasing black middle class will swing conservative but I'm not getting my hopes up on that one.

Hispanics, socially conservative, economically liberal. Basically populists and this election cycle favored the E liberal side of things. They are more prone to becoming conservative as they age.

Asians, to small of a percentage in the US to have any significant impact any time soon.

All in all I think the GOP can certainly make inroads inside the Hispanic community if the Democrats become to liberal. I really think this could be a swing group in the US, pretty much in line with US whites. The other two groups are largely irrelevant politically, sad but true.
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« Reply #10 on: November 27, 2008, 10:05:18 PM »

Ok, Because everytime I see a 2024 or 2028 election prediction with the Sunbelt going Democratic, it makes me wonder.

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« Reply #11 on: November 28, 2008, 06:04:51 PM »

Look at Canada. Conservatives just won significant margins in immigrant communities because they are often conservative, but vote for the pro-immigrant parties. Once the GOP stops its anti-immigrant platform they will open up minority votes. Otherwise they will have to hope that minorities become converts to Evangelical Christianity or Mormonism.
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« Reply #12 on: November 28, 2008, 11:51:26 PM »

It seems if Mike Huckabee changed his immigration stance a bit, he would be a perfect fit for the Hispanic community.
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« Reply #13 on: November 28, 2008, 11:59:59 PM »

They'll have to if they want to win elections in the near future.

Now this process could be sped up, even causing the Republican Party to somehow defeat the Obama juggernaut in 2012 if overnight, nearly every person in the United States who is considered a part of a minority group wins the lottery and becomes excessively rich. Tito could finally say goodbye to being a builder and will be living the high life!
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« Reply #14 on: November 29, 2008, 01:48:18 AM »

It seems if Mike Huckabee changed his immigration stance a bit, he would be a perfect fit for the Hispanic community.

He used to be softer on illegals as Governor and than pandered to the conservatives in the primary on immigration.
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« Reply #15 on: November 29, 2008, 01:09:34 PM »

What gripes me is that beyond the wackos like Tom Tancredo there is not much of an anti-Immigrant wing the GOP. There is an anti-illegal immigrant wing that includes most of the party but many like Mitt Romney have made clear that they are pro-Immigration and genuinely want to continue legal Immigration but want to end illegal Immigration. If the distinction is made clear I highly doubt anyone would win running as Pro-illegal Immigrant. The trouble is Immigrant groups are inherently mistrustful and b/c of left wing missinformation beleive the GOP to be inherently anti-Immigrant. That is our fault for not articulating our positions better then it is the media's fault for acting like an arm of the DNC.
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« Reply #16 on: November 29, 2008, 11:29:39 PM »

Look at Canada. Conservatives just won significant margins in immigrant communities because they are often conservative, but vote for the pro-immigrant parties. Once the GOP stops its anti-immigrant platform they will open up minority votes. Otherwise they will have to hope that minorities become converts to Evangelical Christianity or Mormonism.

That is because Harper is a traitor who supports massive immigration and the NAU. If the GOP becomes more pro-immigration they will only loose working class whites and blacks tend to oppose amnesty as well. This country has to many people and Americans will be a minority by 2050 if we keep up our current immigration policy.

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« Reply #17 on: November 30, 2008, 12:17:48 AM »

Huckabee certainly can. A lot of my Hispanic friends liked him.
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« Reply #18 on: November 30, 2008, 12:24:58 AM »

Huckabee certainly can. A lot of my Hispanic friends liked him.

Yes, I found that Huckabee also got the second highest amount of black support during the primaries, only second to Sen. Obama.
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« Reply #19 on: November 30, 2008, 03:14:28 AM »

Hispanics, socially conservative, economically liberal. Basically populists and this election cycle favored the E liberal side of things. They are more prone to becoming conservative as they age.

true, but younger Hispanics tend to be more liberal than their parents.

Asians, to small of a percentage in the US to have any significant impact any time soon.

they're concentrated in a few states though, where they could have an impact, especially California, New York, New Jersey, the Pacific Northwest, and increasingly Texas and Virginia.
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« Reply #20 on: November 30, 2008, 03:30:17 AM »

And Asians are one of the fastest growing minorities.


Please don't ignore Hawaii when you cite states that Asians are concentrated in though (you Haole! Smiley).
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« Reply #21 on: November 30, 2008, 11:56:55 AM »

Hispanics, socially conservative, economically liberal. Basically populists and this election cycle favored the E liberal side of things. They are more prone to becoming conservative as they age.

true, but younger Hispanics tend to be more liberal than their parents.

Asians, to small of a percentage in the US to have any significant impact any time soon.

they're concentrated in a few states though, where they could have an impact, especially California, New York, New Jersey, the Pacific Northwest, and increasingly Texas and Virginia.


By the third generation, they are no more theologically/culturally/constitutionally conservative than the country as a whole.
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« Reply #22 on: November 30, 2008, 12:52:45 PM »

Blacks, tend to be easily led around by the nose in politics.

No, it is you that are easily led around by the nose in politics, worker.

As for the GOP, it shall not make significant inroads into the swarthier communities, since the choice is either/or - you can either be the part of the whites, or the party of the not-whites+the-small-minority-of-whites-who-don't-care-about-race.  In other words I don't see the parties switching positions completely on race.
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« Reply #23 on: November 30, 2008, 04:41:20 PM »

And Asians are one of the fastest growing minorities.


Please don't ignore Hawaii when you cite states that Asians are concentrated in though (you Haole! Smiley).

sorry, I should have Wink
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« Reply #24 on: November 30, 2008, 04:50:47 PM »

It never has (except to blacks).
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