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« on: December 04, 2008, 01:54:45 pm »
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 The Muslim conspiracy theorists are going to love this- http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/04/us/politics/04web-cooper.html?_r=2
 
 Image if he said this: 'I come to the Muslim world today to declare that I am on of you, a fellow Muslim. I declare loyalty to Islam and loyalty to my fellow Muslim brothers. Death to America! Death to the white man!'.

 But he wont say that of course, he will say stuff about peace, harmony and understanding probably.

 Seriously though, this is quite exciting. Obama's big style is carrying on after the campaign too.
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« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2008, 02:07:49 pm »
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Barack, live from Mecca!
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« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2008, 02:11:38 pm »
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Is this supposed to be like a Berlin political rally-esque speech? In how many of these countries are non-government authorized political rallies even legal?

Aesthetically, it'd be cool if he gave his speech against the backdrop of the completed Burj Dubai or Burj Al Arab. Or from within Al-Masjid al-Haram against the backdrop of the Kaaba Tongue
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« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2008, 02:14:34 pm »
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Is he going to explain why he's named after The Prophet's horse? Wink
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« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2008, 02:21:42 pm »
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Barack, live from Mecca!

Only Muslims are allowed in Mecca.

Oh wait. . .






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« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2008, 02:35:57 pm »
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Barack, live from Mecca!

Only Muslims are allowed in Mecca.

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Eh, they'd probably stone him. Kufir!
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« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2008, 03:00:30 pm »
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Barack, live from Mecca!

Only Muslims are allowed in Mecca.

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Eh, they'd probably stone him. Kufir!

True Democrat beat me to it. Besides, Mecca isn't a capital.
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« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2008, 03:21:34 pm »
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Mecca isn't a capital.

 But it is the capital of Islam.
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« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2008, 03:26:48 pm »
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A lot of Muslims that I know do think that he's some type of crypto-Muslim.
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« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2008, 03:31:36 pm »
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A lot of Muslims that I know do think that he's some type of crypto-Muslim.

Wouldn't a crypto-muslim be considered an apostate anyway?
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« Reply #10 on: December 04, 2008, 03:50:29 pm »
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A lot of Muslims that I know do think that he's some type of crypto-Muslim.

Wouldn't a crypto-muslim be considered an apostate anyway?

Yeah.

Its funny since as late as 2006 he was listed as a "Muslim convert to Christianity" on Wikipedia. My source of fascination with him.

But if anything he's probably extremely secular type of Christian who joined the church for organization more than anything and was only vaguely Muslim to begin with.
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« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2008, 03:59:00 pm »
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and was only vaguely Muslim to begin with

 He was never Muslim atall.
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« Reply #12 on: December 04, 2008, 04:02:32 pm »
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Will conservatives start claiming that he's the Mahdi?
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« Reply #13 on: December 04, 2008, 04:02:47 pm »
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and was only vaguely Muslim to begin with

 He was never Muslim atall.

Even if his father or step-father weren't they at least have to have had some semi or vaguely religious people in their family.
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« Reply #14 on: December 04, 2008, 04:04:07 pm »
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« Reply #15 on: December 04, 2008, 04:04:11 pm »
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Will conservatives start claiming that he's the Mahdi?

This is kind of funny in a way too.

Excerpt from an Amir Taheri article published a month ago.

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   According to the tradition,  Imam Ali Ibn Abi-Talib (the prophet’s cousin and son-in-law) prophesied that at the End of Times and just before the return of the Mahdi, the Ultimate Saviour, a "tall black man will assume the reins of government in the West." Commanding "the strongest army on earth," the new ruler in the West will carry "a clear sign" from the third imam, whose name was Hussein Ibn Ali. The tradition concludes: "Shiites should have no doubt that he is with us."

    In a curious coincidence Obama’s first and second names–Barack Hussein–mean "the blessing of Hussein" in Arabic and Persian. His family name, Obama, written in the Persian alphabet, reads O Ba Ma, which means "he is with us," the magic formula in Majlisi’s tradition.

    Mystical reasons aside, the Khomeinist establishment sees Obama’s rise as another sign of the West’s decline and the triumph of Islam. Obama’s promise to seek unconditional talks with the Islamic Republic is cited as a sign that the U.S. is ready to admit defeat.

I'm going to really see if I can find the reference to this that dates to the 1700s.

http://www.forbes.com/2008/10/26/obama-iran-ahmadinejad-oped-cx_at_1026taheri_print.html
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« Reply #16 on: December 04, 2008, 04:14:35 pm »
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Hahaha that's hilarious. I didn't know about THAT. XD
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« Reply #17 on: December 04, 2008, 05:25:55 pm »
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Even if Obama was muslim, why would it matter? Seriously.
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« Reply #18 on: December 04, 2008, 06:26:06 pm »
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It's my understanding that Obama was an atheist into his mid-20s and that both of his parents were atheists. That said, I'm sure many muslims still consider him an apostate because he had muslim ancestors on his father's side or whatever.
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« Reply #19 on: December 04, 2008, 06:52:26 pm »
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He's an unbeliever. That's all.
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« Reply #20 on: December 04, 2008, 06:57:01 pm »
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I so hope he's a crypto-Muslim.  Hilarious footnote in American history it would be
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« Reply #21 on: December 04, 2008, 07:07:38 pm »
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It's my understanding that Obama was an atheist into his mid-20s and that both of his parents were atheists. That said, I'm sure many muslims still consider him an apostate because he had muslim ancestors on his father's side or whatever.

wouldn't his father be the apostate since  he's the one who actually left Islam?
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« Reply #22 on: December 04, 2008, 07:20:00 pm »
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It's my understanding that Obama was an atheist into his mid-20s and that both of his parents were atheists. That said, I'm sure many muslims still consider him an apostate because he had muslim ancestors on his father's side or whatever.

wouldn't his father be the apostate since  he's the one who actually left Islam?


You'd think so but many muslim extremists would also consider him one despite the fact that these circumstances were beyond his control. An unforgiving bunch, they are.
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« Reply #23 on: December 04, 2008, 11:33:17 pm »
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It's my understanding that Obama was an atheist into his mid-20s and that both of his parents were atheists. That said, I'm sure many muslims still consider him an apostate because he had muslim ancestors on his father's side or whatever.

His family worshipped the great Goddess Athe?
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