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« on: December 05, 2008, 08:52:02 AM »
« edited: December 26, 2008, 04:37:22 PM by last of the Entwives »
Mixed Parentage Act

1) On all official governmental forms, "Mixed" shall be given as an option for one's ethnicity.


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« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2008, 08:53:22 AM »
I was not aware that all official governmental forms included options for one's ethnicity. Frankly I was *this* close to using my PPT powers of rejecting a frivolous bill outright, but decided not to.

Motion to table.
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« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2008, 08:53:46 AM »
The vote is on the motion to table.

Aye.
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« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2008, 08:55:45 AM »
     Would there be some way by which to distinguish between different mixes? There's a slight difference between mixed Anglo-Scots & mixed Anglo-Congolese. Wink
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« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2008, 11:51:09 AM »
Come on Lewis, chill out. We have had dumber legislation than this, and it is harmless. Nay. Smiley
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« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2008, 12:15:58 PM »
I already have - I did give it debate time. Tongue
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Perhaps so. Most of the time we've tabled it. Tongue
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I disagree, actually. Grin
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« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2008, 12:27:49 PM »
Lewis do I now become a senate disgrace for proposing it if its dumb legislation? Cry
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« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2008, 12:32:17 PM »
Quote from: Senator HappyWarrior on December 05, 2008, 12:27:49 PM
Lewis do I now become a senate disgrace for proposing it if its dumb legislation? Cry
No. That place is taken. Grin j/k
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« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2008, 03:14:30 PM »
Nay on cloture for now

I'm thinking of proposing an amendment to remove government forms from being allowed to ask about race at all
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« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2008, 03:45:55 PM »
Quote from: !Sen. DownWithTheLeft! on December 05, 2008, 03:14:30 PM
Nay on cloture for now

I'm thinking of proposing an amendment to remove government forms from being allowed to ask about race at all

Works for me, I was going to propose that but I tried to in the Mideast when I was Governor and people raised some sort of objection so I just stuck with this.
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« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2008, 05:45:37 PM »
     Nay. I'm too intrigued by DWTL's proposal.
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« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2008, 06:07:29 PM »
Amendment to replace the entire bill with a new text that reads:

"The federal government shall not be permitted to ask any citizen for their race, ethnicity, religion, or sexual orientation on any official government form."

If anyone doesn't think the wording is official enough feel free to offer a change
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« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2008, 06:10:28 PM »
I would be inclined to support DWTL's amendment. I am getting tired of all of this labeling stuff. It is getting out of hand, really.
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« Reply #13 on: December 05, 2008, 10:22:55 PM »
I would support such an amendment as friendly and if that were to come about then it would also need a new title.
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« Reply #14 on: December 05, 2008, 11:33:23 PM »
aye to table
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« Reply #15 on: December 06, 2008, 04:08:14 PM »
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« Reply #16 on: December 06, 2008, 05:28:50 PM »
Motion to Table

Aye: 3 (Lewis, Sensei, Bacon King)
Nay: 3 (Torie, DWTL, PiT)
Yet to vote: 4 (HappyWarrior, AndrewCT, Jas, Al)
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« Reply #17 on: December 06, 2008, 05:43:38 PM »
Nay
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« Reply #18 on: December 07, 2008, 04:13:49 PM »
The attempt to table has failed.

Vote count:

Aye 3 (Lewis, Sensei, Bacon)
Bay 4 (Torie, Dwtl, PiT, Happy)
did not vote 3 (Andrew, Jas, Al)

Quote from: !Sen. DownWithTheLeft! on December 05, 2008, 06:07:29 PM
Amendment to replace the entire bill with a new text that reads:

"The federal government shall not be permitted to ask any citizen for their race, ethnicity, religion, or sexual orientation on any official government form."

Quote from: Senator HappyWarrior on December 05, 2008, 10:22:55 PM
I would support such an amendment as friendly and if that were to come about then it would also need a new title.

Senators have 24 hours to object.
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« Reply #19 on: December 08, 2008, 04:09:00 PM »
Offer another amendment as friendly to change the title to the bill to:
"Race Should Not Matter Act"
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« Reply #20 on: December 09, 2008, 09:07:51 AM »
Quote from: !Sen. DownWithTheLeft! on December 08, 2008, 04:09:00 PM
Offer another amendment as friendly to change the title to the bill to:
"Race Should Not Matter Act"

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« Reply #21 on: December 09, 2008, 03:46:33 PM »
Senators have time to object.
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« Reply #22 on: December 10, 2008, 04:43:07 PM »
Senators haven't been using such time.

I have another friendly amendment to change the title:

"Race Should Not Matter, and the Fact that it Does Shouldn't Matter Either Act".

You are, like, you know, aware that you're not ruling out sillee things like checking down race on police reports or birth certificates (issued by regions anyhow) but rather on the Census? Also trying to outlaw AA again through the backdoor?

Thank you for listening.
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« Reply #23 on: December 13, 2008, 12:28:47 PM »
Quote from: Cao / Rahim '12! on December 10, 2008, 04:43:07 PM
I have another friendly amendment to change the title:

"Race Should Not Matter, and the Fact that it Does Shouldn't Matter Either Act".

As the amendment wasn't accepted as friendly, the vote is now on the amendment. Please vote aye, nay or abstain.

Aye.
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« Reply #24 on: December 13, 2008, 12:35:43 PM »
Nay, I like my more concise title
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