I came out...kind of.

[DownWithTheLeft]

This thread makes me remember why I am glad to be a conservative

What does that mean exactly?

I'm really glad that I don't have to say that everyone that disagrees with me is an ignorant backward hick stuck in the 19th century.  I'm not going to praise MSUFan, if you think being gay or bi or whatever are is alright, come out and say it already to the world.

[Sensei]

This thread makes me remember why I am glad to be a conservative

What does that mean exactly?

I'm really glad that I don't have to say that everyone that disagrees with me is an ignorant backward hick stuck in the 19th century.  I'm not going to praise MSUFan, if you think being gay or bi or whatever are is alright, come out and say it already to the world.

so, you're saying there's something wrong with being, let's say, non-straight?

[DownWithTheLeft]

so, you're saying there's something wrong with being, let's say, non-straight?

Personally yeah but I really don't hold it against people.  Kind of in the way that I think being a liberal is stupid but I don't hold it against people.  But what I do hold against people is when they live a lie

[MSUfan]

That's pretty easy for you to say and ignorant to the extreme.

[CubOB]

so, you're saying there's something wrong with being, let's say, non-straight?

Personally yeah but I really don't hold it against people.  Kind of in the way that I think being a liberal is stupid but I don't hold it against people.  But what I do hold against people is when they live a lie

That's very easy for a straight man to say though, isn't it? You're never gonna have people threatening violence (or to disown you) for being honest about who you fancy.

[Sensei]

so, you're saying there's something wrong with being, let's say, non-straight?

Personally yeah but I really don't hold it against people.  Kind of in the way that I think being a liberal is stupid but I don't hold it against people.  But what I do hold against people is when they live a lie

so you think it's impossible for a person to be born non-straight, and they make the choice themselves to perhaps be alienated by their loved ones?

[MK13]

[afleitch]

Meaning?

[MSUfan]

No, no. I don't have Aids so the ribbon isn't necessary. Thanks, though. Though it does show how ignorant and assuming you are...

[Sam Spade]

One lesson from the 60s radicals sticks in my mind at certain moments - Youngsters really are so very easy to indoctrinate (in fact, they're the easiest).

[© Tweed the Younger]

One lesson from the 60s radicals sticks in my mind at certain moments - Youngsters really are so very easy to indoctrinate (in fact, they're the easiest).

"give us a child for seven years, and he'll be a Bolshevik forever."  -Vladimir Lenin

[Senator Sbane]

One lesson from the 60s radicals sticks in my mind at certain moments - Youngsters really are so very easy to indoctrinate (in fact, they're the easiest).

What are you trying to say?

[Sam Spade]

One lesson from the 60s radicals sticks in my mind at certain moments - Youngsters really are so very easy to indoctrinate (in fact, they're the easiest).

"give us a child for seven years, and he'll be a Bolshevik forever."  -Vladimir Lenin

I'm old (relatively speaking), but not old enough to remember him. 

[MSUfan]

One lesson from the 60s radicals sticks in my mind at certain moments - Youngsters really are so very easy to indoctrinate (in fact, they're the easiest).

What are you trying to say?

It's Sam.

[Torie]

One lesson from the 60s radicals sticks in my mind at certain moments - Youngsters really are so very easy to indoctrinate (in fact, they're the easiest).

Not moi. I was a congenital contrarian, a tendency that has slowly faded over the years a bit.

[opebo]

One lesson from the 60s radicals sticks in my mind at certain moments - Youngsters really are so very easy to indoctrinate (in fact, they're the easiest).

Not moi. I was a congenital contrarian, a tendency that has slowly faded over the years a bit.

Me too.  Which, come to think of it, would be a pretty good reason to try gay practices.  Though for me I only ever tried ladyboys.

[Senator Sbane]

One lesson from the 60s radicals sticks in my mind at certain moments - Youngsters really are so very easy to indoctrinate (in fact, they're the easiest).

What are you trying to say?

It's Sam.

Yet the implications are clear.

[Gravis Marketing]

One lesson from the 60s radicals sticks in my mind at certain moments - Youngsters really are so very easy to indoctrinate (in fact, they're the easiest).

What are you trying to say?

It's Sam.

Yet the implications are clear.

Yes, and no more relevant for being so. People have their hobby horses and their desires to see the world work a certain way. Life moves on.

[Josh/Devilman88]

Hey, Josh, I say the best thing to do with Ty(is that his name?) is talk to him about what both of you want. If you guys want to try to take your friendship to a higher level(mean become a couple) just make sure if it doesn't work out you guys still say friends. What ever you guys do, just make sure you don't become butt buddies, because that is never good at all.

[MSUfan]

Hey, Josh, I say the best thing to do with Ty(is that his name?) is talk to him about what both of you want. If you guys want to try to take your friendship to a higher level(mean become a couple) just make sure if it doesn't work out you guys still say friends. What ever you guys do, just make sure you don't become butt buddies, because that is never good at all.

We've sort of talked already. We've both decided to cool it, (but neither of us said it was a mistake). I guess he's had a crush on me, too. We both like each other, personally and physically.

Trust me, I'm not a slut. This was spontaneous and loving. Not just for the sake of sex.

[Torie]

What is wrong with being a "slut?"  Your little comment sounds almost Victorian.

[RosettaStoned]

Slut Pride!

[DownWithTheLeft]

That's pretty easy for you to say and ignorant to the extreme.

What a typical liberal answer of just calling someone ignorant.  The fact remains that if you don't think there is anything wrong with being gay, just come out and say it.  I'm not going to say that it would be easy, but seriously if you feel confident about something go for it.

[Matt Damon™]

Homophobia _is_ ignorance. There is no reason to think being gay is wrong.

[DownWithTheLeft]

Homophobia _is_ ignorance. There is no reason to think being gay is wrong.

Ignorant is living a lie, ignorant is ostracizing someone for being gay, thinking that thinking being gay is immoral is ignorant is ignorant.  Thinking that being gay is immoral is not