Obama V. Jindal V. Dobbs

[Governor PiT]

Two early to predict a winner. Depends if Obama is weak.

[Frozen Sky Ever Why]

Only a candidate like Jindal would make me vote for Obama again, but I would vote for him over Dobbs.

[Scam of God]

Obama/Obama, easily. The last time we needed an exorcist in the White House was when Nancy Reagan lived in it.

[© tweed]

What's with the obsession with Dobbs? I know your an Independent, but he's just not going to succeed in getting very many votes.

Dobbs is America's most prominent White Nationalist

[Eraserhead]

What's with the obsession with Dobbs? I know your an Independent, but he's just not going to succeed in getting very many votes.

Dobbs is America's most prominent White Nationalist

One of the few things Dobbs and Paul have in common is that many of their followers are White Nationalists.

[Governor PiT]

What's with the obsession with Dobbs? I know your an Independent, but he's just not going to succeed in getting very many votes.

Dobbs is America's most prominent White Nationalist

LOL. His wife is Mexican.

[RIP Robert H Bork]

Obama.

No surprise there.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Obama.

No surprise there.

I'm glad you're catching on.  I do tend to vote non-crazy.

I think we will have to disagree on this one. Jindal is my favorite to be Mitt's VP pick if Mitt is nominated in 2012. I see no reason to vote for Obama over him should he be the nominee. He seems to have everyting Palin had but younger, more experienced, smarter, and much more polished then Palin.

[Scam of God]

Oh, please, dear Lard, give us some combination of Willard and Piyush. I'd love nothing more than to cut the Christofascists off at the pass with such a ludicrous ticket. Maybe they could stage a mock-exorcism with Jindal driving out the souls of post-mortemly baptized Jews from Romney's body, and perhaps then he could ascend and become a Mormon star-god on live television... the possibilities are literally endless.

[The Man From G.O.P.]

Oh, please, dear Lard, give us some combination of Willard and Piyush. I'd love nothing more than to cut the Christofascists off at the pass with such a ludicrous ticket. Maybe they could stage a mock-exorcism with Jindal driving out the souls of post-mortemly baptized Jews from Romney's body, and perhaps then he could ascend and become a Mormon star-god on live television... the possibilities are literally endless.

You have some real issues don't you?

[Scam of God]

You have some real issues don't you?

Yeah. My main issue, however, is winning elections, which such a ticket would do for us quite handily.

[Matt Damon™]

Dobbs isn't a white nationalist but all but 5-10% of his supporters are loons.

[JohnnyLongtorso]

Lou Dobbs' platform:

1. Evict all brown people from the US.

2.

3. Profit!

[Holmes]

Lou Dobbs' platform:

1. Evict all brown people from the US.

2.

3. Profit!

Nooo

[Associate Justice PiT]

     Obama, unreluctantly given the options.

[AltWorlder]

People who think that Jindal can be easily passed off as a "Christofascist" are kidding themselves.  He's going to clearly maneuver to the middle socially and focus on being an administrative wonk with free-market tendencies.  He'll try to reform LA and get it running, and if he succeeds he's going to paint himself as a not-phony, more tolerably non-Protestant, younger version of Romney.

Also Romney isn't even a "Christofascist", you're thinking about Palin and maybe Huckabee.  And even Huckabee might have theocratic tendencies but he's way too economically liberal forthe GOP base to swallow and so doesn't count the role either.

[Scam of God]

People who think that Jindal can be easily passed off as a "Christofascist" are kidding themselves.  He's going to clearly maneuver to the middle socially and focus on being an administrative wonk with free-market tendencies.  He'll try to reform LA and get it running, and if he succeeds he's going to paint himself as a not-phony, more tolerably non-Protestant, younger version of Romney.

The guy believes in banning all abortions, even those when the life of the mother is at stake; he supports chemically castrating sexual offenders; he wants to add an amendment to the Constitution to ban same-sex marriage. That is not the social 'middle'. He also believes he personally witnessed an exorcism. That is not the social 'middle'. The libertarian wing of the Party will bolt so quickly the entire worthless structure would collapse in one rotting heap. Furthermore, the G.O.P. has done so well in cultivating white-racialists to its banner that they probably would, too, and for once they'd be doing the right thing.

Jindal is a worthless human being who ought to himself have been aborted.

[Eraserhead]

People who think that Jindal can be easily passed off as a "Christofascist" are kidding themselves.  He's going to clearly maneuver to the middle socially and focus on being an administrative wonk with free-market tendencies.  He'll try to reform LA and get it running, and if he succeeds he's going to paint himself as a not-phony, more tolerably non-Protestant, younger version of Romney.

The guy believes in banning all abortions, even those when the life of the mother is at stake; he supports chemically castrating sexual offenders; he wants to add an amendment to the Constitution to ban same-sex marriage. That is not the social 'middle'. He also believes he personally witnessed an exorcism. That is not the social 'middle'. The libertarian wing of the Party will bolt so quickly the entire worthless structure would collapse in one rotting heap. Furthermore, the G.O.P. has done so well in cultivating white-racialists to its banner that they probably would, too, and for once they'd be doing the right thing.

Jindal is a worthless human being who ought to himself have been aborted.

The last line is a little over the top but I am starting to enjoy some of your posts.

[Matt Damon™]

It's not over the top at all. Jindal is just that bad of a person.

[justfollowingtheelections]

I have a feeling Jindal will have reinvented himself by 2016.  The guy is just too smart not to.

[Psychic Octopus]

I have a feeling Jindal will have reinvented himself by 2016.  The guy is just too smart not to.

yes, i could believe that, but somehow I cannot picture him president.

[© tweed]

I have a feeling Jindal will have reinvented himself by 2016.  The guy is just too smart not to.

he is very bright.  don't make things up.

[Lunar]

Jindal's smart enough to realize that him versus Obama would be pereceive me-tooism, diminishing his star potential drastically.

He also realizes that incumbents usually win, Palin is eager to run and will eat away at some of his base, and his star power will be diminished if Palin is in the picture.  Considering how young he is, I think he'll almost certainly take the pass unless Obama is floundering and quite vulnerable.

[Neinrein]

People who think that Jindal can be easily passed off as a "Christofascist" are kidding themselves.  He's going to clearly maneuver to the middle socially and focus on being an administrative wonk with free-market tendencies.  He'll try to reform LA and get it running, and if he succeeds he's going to paint himself as a not-phony, more tolerably non-Protestant, younger version of Romney.

Also Romney isn't even a "Christofascist", you're thinking about Palin and maybe Huckabee.  And even Huckabee might have theocratic tendencies but he's way too economically liberal forthe GOP base to swallow and so doesn't count the role either.

Until Jindal wins re-election in 2011, any discussion of him is a moot point, and anyone who thinks his re-election is a done deal should remember a few things. First, just how poorly he does in the Protestant part of the state (and that has nothing to do with religion, everything with race, because he did as poorly in 2003 in Cajun areas)

The other thing, redistricting of the Louisiana legislature is on the line in 2011. Population transfers from New Orleans will mean that the districts have to be changed. The margins have closed up enough that Republicans have begun to believe they may take it. If they do, game over for the Democratic Party in Louisiana. It will cease to be a factor outside of New Orleans proper and areas that are sufficiently black enough where a Democrat has to win. Though if the GOP wins, you will see a number of black seats added to the legislature for the tradeoff of white Democratic seats. I know that's the plan for the Mississippi GOP. Both the state GOP and certain black leaders in the MDP have been working for years to eradicate the white Democrat in the state. Almost had a success in the federal courts but that decision was overturned.

Point being, more money will be spent in the Louisiana elections in 2011 that has ever been spent before and state party leaders are doing whatever they can to get a top notch opponent, because it is all on the line. If the Democrats lose in 2011, they have lost the state for a generation maybe longer. That's whats at stake and I wouldn't be surprised to see the total campaign costs come to well over 20 million. It simply is that big a deal, and any presidential ambitions Jindal has may in the end fall too.


And Jindal actually has to take the pass, whether Obama looks strong or whether he looks weak. Huckabee has used the anti-Catholic card against Brownback, he'll certainly use it against Jindal. I can't see Jindal beating Huckabee anywhere north of the Louisiana/Mississippi-Florida/Alabama north-south state line. Demographics simply don't favor him. He only has a chance in the counties where Romney did well if he runs against Huckabee.

If Jindal runs in 2012, which I wouldn't mind seeing, that means he has to forgo running for a second term as governor of Louisiana, and he may not get that office back. Louisiana generally doesn't like reformers and he can't keep it up for ever. Once the economic troubles begin hitting and it looks like it did ala 1986, he won't look like such a star.

[pbrower2a]

The easiest way for any Presidential candidate to lose is for the other side to depict one as a  nut, extremist, or crank. Such happened to Goldwater; such happened to McGovern. As enthusiasm within the base becomes a substitute for votes, the Insiders become happier with the Party platform while the number of potential voters shrinks.

It is arguable that Goldwater and McGovern supporters were as enthusiastic about their candidates as the supporters for any candidate. Enthusiasm within a minority is not enough to counteract the disdain of the majority. Votes win elections; enthusiasm alone doesn't. The moderate opponent can sow distrust among usual supporters of the hijacked party.

Votes ultimately decide who wins whether those votes come enthusiastic supporters or from those who simply choose the candidate less troublesome than the other.