Wasn't 1992 a realigning election?

[Bo]

No, since they did not produce a permanent Democratic majority in Congress and did not solidify Democratic control of the Presidency. If 1992 was a true realignment, then the Democras would have retained Congress throughout the 1990s and Gore would have won in 2000 after Clinton won twice.

[Bo]

No: Clinton won partly because he was able to pull the Democratic party significantly to the right of where it had been before. And even then, the Republicans made huge gains in 1994.

No, Clinton was a hardcore liberal in 1992, and then when the Republicans won in 1994 he claimed their platform as his own just so that he could be reelected.

In 1992 Bill Clinton said he would cut taxes for the middle class, so he wasn't a "hardcore" liberal in 1992, and he never was. 

I thought cutting taxes for the middle class (and poor) was a liberal position. It's cutting taxes for the rich which is a conservative idea.

[Bo]

No: Clinton won partly because he was able to pull the Democratic party significantly to the right of where it had been before. And even then, the Republicans made huge gains in 1994.

No, Clinton was a hardcore liberal in 1992, and then when the Republicans won in 1994 he claimed their platform as his own just so that he could be reelected.

In 1992 Bill Clinton said he would cut taxes for the middle class, so he wasn't a "hardcore" liberal in 1992, and he never was. 

I thought cutting taxes for the middle class (and poor) was a liberal position. It's cutting taxes for the rich which is a conservative idea.

No that's just class warfare. Lower taxes are considered conservative and higher taxes are considered liberal by 21st century definitions.

lol. That's not the way I learned it. And if that was the case, then Reagan would be considered a liberal since he raised taxes much more times than he cut them. Also, Bush Sr. would be a liberal because he raised taxes and never cut them. Finally, JFK and LBJ would be conservatives because they cut or wanted to cut taxes.

[Bo]

LOL OMG, are u serious? OK Here ya go his tax increase and in dollars:
Tax Increases Billions of Dollars
Tax Equity and Fiscal Responsibility Act of 1982 +57.3
Highway Revenue Act of 1982 +4.9
Social Security Amendments of 1983 +24.6
Railroad Retirement Revenue Act of 1983 +1.2
Deficit Reduction Act of 1984 +25.4
Consolidated Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1985 +2.9
Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1985 +2.4
Superfund Amendments and Reauthorization Act of 1986 +0.6
Continuing Resolution for 1987 +2.8
Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1987 +8.6
Continuing Resolution for 1988 +2.0
Total cumulative tax increases +132.7

 Source: Office of Management and Budget, Budget of the United States Government, Fiscal 1990

LOL YEA DUDE REAGAN RAISED TAXES ARE YOU SERIOUS? YOU DIDNT KNOW THAT, HE RAISED TAXES ALMOST 133 BILLION A YEAR, OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ARE YOU FREAKING SERIOUS YOU TALK ABOUT HOW INFORMED YOU ARE AND YOU DIDNT KNOW THAT YOUR BELOVED HEROES REAGAN AND BUSH HAD THE LARGEST TAX INCREASES ON THE AMERICAN PEOPLE IN U.S. HISTORY, REALLY? REALLY? REALLY? I MEAN REALLY?

All that really matters is the income, estate, and marriage taxes though because those are immoral.

That still means Reagan is a liberal though because he raised a lot of taxes and raising taxes is a liberal position according to you. If you call Bush Sr. an economic liberal then Reagan is also an economic liberal because Bush Sr. and Reagan had the same economic policies. And LBJ cut taxes for everybody in 1964 (JFK proposed the tax cuts, but was assassinated before they could be passed). Thus LBJ is an economic conservative. Also, Clinton cut the capital gains tax and Obama's stimulus package cut some taxes as well. That means that they are both economic conservatives as well, according to you.

[Bo]

You don't seem to understand the difference between numbers and sizes.  If you raise my taxes .01% 100 Times, and then lower them by 1% once, that has no net effect on tax rates.  Reagan produced a net tax rate reduction, despite the fact that he supported tax increases during his presidency.

That's irrelevant. According to Derek, raising taxes at anytime means you're a liberal, and since Reagan raised taxes lots of times, he must be a liberal according to Derek.