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« on: December 27, 2008, 08:29:45 PM »
« edited: November 24, 2010, 02:50:07 AM by N!K »

Anyone want to try and make  a prediction? I am a future buff myself, and am obsessed with it.  I dream of a day when I can see it.

I'll predict the United States still has superpower-level status.
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« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2008, 08:31:29 PM »

I predict that the standard of life around the world will stay stagnant.
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« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2008, 08:45:13 PM »

I like how this thread is in US general discussion. Tongue
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« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2008, 08:50:12 PM »

China will be a parliamentary democracy as well as a global superpower on par with the United States (by then a clearly declining power in both relative and absolute terms).

Greenhouse gases emitted from anthropogenic sources (factories, vehicles, etc.) will be stabilized, and on their way down to 1990 levels.

The non-Hispanic white population (WASP) in the United States will have only a plurality of the total population.

We will still have a two-party system here in the United States, between Republicans and Democrats.

The U.S. Republican Party will have finally overcome its problems appealing to racial/ethnic minorities (with the exception of African Americans), with traditional (aka, socially/religious conservative) values being the glue tying the new coalition together.  

We will have established colonies on the Moon and Mars.

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« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2008, 08:59:14 PM »

Many of the world's poorer countries will be brought nearer the standards of rich world through the processes of globalization. Global poverty and the problems associated it will be radically decreased as more of the world is brought into the economic fold, but certainly not eliminated. They will of course have the same problems that the rest of the rich world currently does; but certainly better to have modern-day England's problems than those of modern-day India.


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« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2008, 09:03:41 PM »
« Edited: December 27, 2008, 09:28:49 PM by unempprof »

The United States will have a population of approximately 420 millions.  
50% of them will be white, 28% Hispanic and 8% Asian.  
The immigration policies will have become even stricter.  
Scientific advances will extend longevity.
The population of Western and Southern states will increase even more.  The population in these states will increase 2 to 3 times faster than it will in the Northeast and the Midwest.
America's midsection will empty out.
The House of Representatives will have more than 435 seats.
Montana, Idaho and Wyoming will be considered liberal states.
The average age of the population will be greater than it is now.
The percentage of single person households will increase to 26%
There will be a 50% increase in space devoted to the built environment by 2030, with most of the development taking place in the West and the South.  This will result to a loss of farmland.
There will be water shortages in the East, the West, the Great Plains and the Southwest with lakes and rivers disappearing.
Cities such as Denver, Las Vegas, LA and San Diego will be buying water supplies from elsewhere.
New energy sources will be used: Wind, solar, biomass, geothermal, renewable sources.  The '50s will be known as the "Solar Age".  
Cars will be using fuel cells.
Cities will become more compact and suburbs will be considered costly and inefficient.
There will be more interracial marriages and more tolerance towards different cultures, languages and religious beliefs.


Two cities whose population will increase significantly are Lagos and Mexico City.
China by 2021 will be considered a military superpower.  They will also join the WTO and modernize.
The same problems that exist now will exist in 2050 (India/Pakistan, China/Taiwan, the Koreas, Bosnia, Kossovo).  There will also be tension in Sierra Leone, East Timor, Chechnya maybe even Colombia.  The US will not interfere this time.
The Third World will urbanize.
Coastal cities worldwide will become vulnerable to storms and flooding.  Bangladesh will suffer the most.  Many amphibians will become extinct.


Extremophiles will be discovered on Mars (underground) and on moons of Jupiter and Saturn. Maybe on Venus too.
More oil reserves will be discovered.
Human cloning will be widespread and out of control.
Recreational space travel becomes more common.
Competitions between national teams in soccer will not exist anymore.
Tattoos become more popular (almost a necessity in fashion retail).
Artificial organs are used as transplants and the number of experiments on animals decreases.
An enormous number of fish species become extinct.
A shield is created by scientists that protects the Earth from higher temperatures.  
Sea level rises.
The internet replaces tv.
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« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2008, 09:20:24 PM »

As Mexico comes apart due to PEMEX mismanagement of oil discovieries and the world becoming slowly less reliant on oil, Mexico falls apart with most of the people fleeing here and we more or less inherit it, adding 25 or so states. Grabbing mexico changes US politics and culture forever.

America will be a fusion culture. To anyone living in Miami or greater LA this would be recognizable but it's not the culture of the puritan fathers or even that of 1950s America. America has bilingual zones and rare spanish-only enclaves but even the english spoken is altered.

The odds are that at least one of the following joins the US: Any of the central american states, any of the non-european caribbean islands, Guyana, Cape Verde, Phillippines. Most likely are guyana and cape verde with the Phillippines a bit behind and the rest behind those 3.

We're still a 2 party system in practice but the 2 parties's coalitions will not resemble ours since it's close to 2 realignments away.

The US will still be number 1 but less obviously so. Brazil, The EU and less likely Japan as other great powers. India and China are too populous and poor to really get their acts together anytime soon.

Europe will be openly hostile to islam and have reversed the post-1960s immigration changes to their culture/society. The US will be the relative center of cultural liberalism and Europe/the colonial anglosphere will be the center of militant rightism.

Canada is an EU member and NAFTA long dead.

Open anti-semitism will return due to 1945 being ever further in the past with each year. Anti-muslim feeling will be present in the west.There will be few or no jewish office-holders in the US, UK, Germany.

As Israel's arab proportion of the population increases, the secular jews will follow the pattern of secular jews everywhere besides israel and assimilate into the local culture. Palestine will be a (relatively) liberal democracy with the end of Israel being caused by differential birthrates and leftist/liberal jewish israelis working with arab israelis to compromise.

Space travel won't have much accomplished still.

Baseball will die and America pick up soccer like the rest of the world.
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« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2008, 09:25:18 PM »

Cars are once again just toys for the rich. Those cars that are produced are fancy and very high-end. Think all mercedes-benz. They are self-driving.

Air travel is likewise something only for the rich to do. What air travel there is mostly consists of transporting stuff that must get to places RAPIDLY.
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« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2008, 09:28:16 PM »

Also, the third wave of colonialism(Washington Consensus/Neoliberal globalization) is long dead by 2050. this gives many third world nations much more freedom of action but at the price of no more assured imputs of western energy/food/investment capital. This leads to biblical level dieoffs in non-Colombian/brazilian/uruguayan/chilean south america, Africa, non-Filipino southeast asia, South Asia and The middle east.
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« Reply #9 on: December 27, 2008, 09:40:45 PM »

Presuming all the expansions(mexico, central america, liberia, carib, phillippines, latin union's african members, guyana, etc) happen. US is around 800 million or so and populated mostly by 'Americans'/'Gringos'. Race is less important than now with the bulk being part or full multiracial. Due to the one-drop rule still being in place, technically the US has only a relatively small 'white' minority(30%) or so but in practice the largest chunk of the population consists of people who of mixed race but majority/plurality of their genes are european.
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« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2008, 09:41:36 PM »

I will be 68 years old in 2050, and should be 10 years into retirement.  That's all I know.
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« Reply #11 on: December 27, 2008, 09:43:58 PM »

Also, this is an america converging to an emerging common anglo-latin culture. Multiculturalism died with the baby boomers along with identity politics. America turning into an anglo-latin state lead to latin ideas about being the majority/winners in a society becoming the norm for the rest of the population(the other half in anglo-latin marriages even now usually assimilates into latin norms anddefinately the kids... This applies even if they're anglophone). The golden door is long closed and probably won't be re-opened.
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« Reply #12 on: December 27, 2008, 09:51:08 PM »

LA's population is most likely 100,000-300,000 due to the collapse of the car culture and Hollywood as we know it's demise. Hollywood and centralized film-making in general has also more or less collapsed due to the internet, youtube and ever improving/becoming cheaper CGI enabling independent productions to compete with the majros. The rustbelt/northeast/midwest are booming again. Income levels and development in the coast from virginia southwards to florida are on par with northern levels by 2030, Texas by 2045 and the interior south is still lagging.
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« Reply #13 on: December 28, 2008, 01:49:38 AM »
« Edited: December 28, 2008, 03:24:10 AM by unempprof »

I think my predictions are far more likely to happen than Sith Lord Donut's.  There will be far more Spanish speaking people in this country, but we're not annexing Mexico and Costa Rica.  Your prediction about LA becoming a 100,000 town is also a little out there.  No offense of course. Smiley
Puerto Rico will become the 51st state, but that's where the annexation of Spanish speaking countries will end.  I'm actually predicting that the standards of living will have increased significantly in Mexico as well as in most of South America (not central America though).  I don't think they will have the growth rates the Asian Tigers had after WWII, but they will develop at a rapid pace.
I agree about the movie industry as well as all other entertainment industries (I already said that the internet will have replaced tv), but there's far more to LA than the entertainment industry.  The only way your scenario could be true is if there's a natural disaster that destroys LA, but people who have homes there will go back.  They're going back to New Orleans and that was a much smaller city than LA.
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« Reply #14 on: December 28, 2008, 03:25:44 AM »

The world population will have stabilized around 9 billion.  The population of Europe will be steadily declining, while the population in many east Asian countries will be declining at a much faster rate.

India will be the most populous nation with 1.8 billion people.

North Africa will have developed to levels similar to Europe with the people enjoying a comfortable quality of life and a long life expectancy while sub-Saharan Africa continues to struggle.

Most immigrants to the U.S. will come from Africa, the Middle East, and south Asia with relatively few coming from Mexico, Latin America and southeast or east Asia, whose populations will have stabilized.

We won't have flying cars and environmental problems will not seem all that bad to the average American, since we will have spent vast resources protecting that which is in our field of vision while countless species of insects and other small animals quietly go extinct due to the stress of human overpopulation.

People will be fighting over the moon's resources, though we won't have a clear way of getting those materials back to earth.

We will be on our way to completing a earth/orbit space elevator that will eliminate the need for shuttles.
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« Reply #15 on: December 28, 2008, 08:27:59 AM »

The population of Europe will be steadily declining.

In the 70s, "Experts" have said the same thing for 2010.

In 2008, the EU population grew by 2.2 Mio., if you count Turkey to Europe by about 3 Mio. ...

Even Russia's and Ukraine's population decreases have decelerated and Russia may even grow by 2010, due to a birth and immigration boom ...
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« Reply #16 on: December 28, 2008, 10:10:36 AM »

It probably won't exist anymore - by that I mean I'll be dead.
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« Reply #17 on: December 28, 2008, 12:38:16 PM »

I will be 68 years old in 2050, and should be 10 years into retirement.  That's all I know.

Don't bet on that at all.

Anyway, I expect the global standard of living to rise as more nations are brought into the global network. At the same time, expect civil rights to be eroded, upward mobility to stagnate, inequality to increase in the first world, and cooperation between governments and corporations to increase. In short, the basic needs of most will be met, but the world will be a more enslaved place.
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« Reply #18 on: December 28, 2008, 12:47:44 PM »

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« Reply #19 on: December 28, 2008, 01:23:45 PM »

The odds are that at least one of the following joins the US: Any of the central american states, any of the non-european caribbean islands, Guyana, Cape Verde, Phillippines. Most likely are guyana and cape verde with the Phillippines a bit behind and the rest behind those 3.

I'd rather we get our bases back as opposed to the entire country.  The stronger China gets (at least under the control of the CCP), the more likely that would happen.
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« Reply #20 on: December 28, 2008, 01:26:43 PM »

China is a paper tiger that's fudging their economic figures.
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« Reply #21 on: December 28, 2008, 03:05:19 PM »

Much of Eastern Europe collapses. Several countries grab up the land (Germany, Poland).
English is the de-facto language of the world, but many European and Asian languages still have a strong foot hold.
North Korea attacks South Korea, taking it. The USA does not interfere, fearing Chinese trade sanctions if they attack North Korea.
A third party rises in America, funded by a relatively unknown (in the political sense) businessman. He pumps BILLIONS into this party, and it wins several elections in the mid 2030's and early 2040's. The Republican party merges with this party.
This new party manages to avoid a debt collapse, by cutting several programs, such as social security and Medicare. This sparks outrage, and there are several minor protests, but it eventually dies down.
India attacks Burma, Vietnam and Thailand, capturing almost all of South east Asia. Pakistan takes advantage of this military absence, and captures some of India, installs a pro-Muslim government, and quietly retreats, giving the land back in peace negotiations. India retains much of Asia. India and Pakistan are theoretically one nation, since the same political party rules both nations, but they never merge.
Water purification from the oceans becomes a reality on the large scale.
The moon is seized by various nations who originally signed the space treaties, but no one takes action, as each country wants a piece of the resources for them self. There is still no wide spread colonization of the moon, although nations have established small bases capable of sustaining 10-15 indefinitely.
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« Reply #22 on: December 28, 2008, 03:22:35 PM »

Compared to some of the things written here, this is quite reasonable.
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« Reply #23 on: December 28, 2008, 03:36:53 PM »

These predictions are pretty ridiculous. Seriously America annexing Mexico and there being an Anglo-Latin culture? There are so many reasons why that would never happen...
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« Reply #24 on: December 28, 2008, 03:38:19 PM »

The population of Europe will be steadily declining.

In the 70s, "Experts" have said the same thing for 2010.

In 2008, the EU population grew by 2.2 Mio., if you count Turkey to Europe by about 3 Mio. ...

Even Russia's and Ukraine's population decreases have decelerated and Russia may even grow by 2010, due to a birth and immigration boom ...

If Russia does grow, it will be very limited and for a short period of time.  The larger cohort of children born in the '80s is now coming into childbearing age.  The '90s were a perfect storm for the steep decline in births in Russia.  

Still, women in Russia will not have enough children to replace the current generation of mothers and then the smallest generation of young mothers since before the first world war will replace them.  Then, in order to hold population at a constant level, mothers will need to have an average of about 3 children... something that hasn't happened in Russia since the 1950s.

The same thing goes for Germany.  Their population did decline during the '70s as the large pre-WWI generation was dying off and the number of births plummeted.  There were modest increases during the '80s and '90s because of increased immigration and a slightly higher number of births.. but more importantly because the elderly population declined significantly as the WWI and Weimar depression babies came into old age.

Now it is the Hitler baby boom that is ageing and the birth rate is at historic lows.  Even with higher immigration projections and a rise in the birth rate to the levels of the early '70s, Germany will still see modest population decline from 82 million today to about 73 million in 2050.

France, Britain, Norway, and Sweden, which have very actively promoted having children have seen their fertility rates rise to just under 2 children per woman, but these countries also never saw the huge decline like Germany did.  Their populations will continue to grow, but even those nations will be declining by 2050.
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