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« Reply #2525 on: December 08, 2012, 12:30:13 AM »

Has anyone ever had this happened before: I was playing the 2012 Republican primaries as Cain, and we got to Colorado. It was an exact tie between Romney and Cain - 225,338 votes apiece. I've never seen it before.
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« Reply #2526 on: December 10, 2012, 01:20:46 AM »

Has anyone ever had this happened before: I was playing the 2012 Republican primaries as Cain, and we got to Colorado. It was an exact tie between Romney and Cain - 225,338 votes apiece. I've never seen it before.
Did Cain "win" it then on the map?
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« Reply #2527 on: December 10, 2012, 01:24:07 AM »

Has anyone ever had this happened before: I was playing the 2012 Republican primaries as Cain, and we got to Colorado. It was an exact tie between Romney and Cain - 225,338 votes apiece. I've never seen it before.
Did Cain "win" it then on the map?
It was white on the map, but Cain won all delegates.
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« Reply #2528 on: December 16, 2012, 05:22:36 PM »
« Edited: December 20, 2012, 05:27:32 PM by ChairmanSanchez »

2012

Former Governor Mitt Romney (R-MA)/Congressman Paul Ryan (R-WI)-289 EV, 49.7%-64,194,084 votes.
President Barack Obama (D-IL)/Vice President Joe Biden (D-DE)-249 EV, 49.1%-63,500,313 votes.
Former Governor Gary Johnson (L-NM)/Former Judge Jim Gray (L-CA)-0.8%-1,067,079 votes.
Former Congressman Virgil Goode (C-VA)/Mr. Jim Clymer (C-PA)-0.2%-276,667 votes.
Mrs. Jill Stein (G-MA)/Mrs. Cheri Honkala (G-PA)-0.2%-242,753 votes.

I started as Romney in the general. I focused on the swing states, and made my two non Romney leadership themes attacking Obama on the economy, and one praising myself on the issue of the size of government. I focused on Colorado, Ohio (which I won immediately when it was first reporting, 58-42. It later turned out to be 54-46) and New Hampshire. Florida, Virginia, Nevada, Wisconsin, and North Carolina were also heavily targeted. I spent a ton on ads in the last weeks, and despite being hit by power 9 scandals three times midway through the campaign, I was able to eek out a narrow win when Florida and Missouri were called. Wisconsin was the closest state, with a difference of 32,000 votes.
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« Reply #2529 on: December 19, 2012, 07:29:21 PM »

Just got P4E 2008, here is my first game:

Ran as Al Gore in the 2008 scenario that comes with the game. Started in the primaries with all characters on for both major parties and 3rd parties off. Was leading in Iowa till the last minute when Mark Warner surged there. He won and I came in 2nd. Warner also won NH. Most of the other candidates dropped out soon after, setting up me vs Hillary with Warner a distant 3rd. I won most of the South and West, Hillary took most of the NE and Midwest. The primary dragged on a long time with Hillary leading but nobody getting a majority By the time the primaries were almost done the delegate count was something like this:

Clinton 1400
Gore 1100
Warner 500

I used all my political influence points to get Warner to drop out and endorse me, which gave me a majority. Offered Hillary my VP and she accepted.

Romney had won the GOP primary pretty early and had been running a GE campaign since then. By the time I won the primary things were not looking good for Team D.


Romney/Pataki 47%
Gore/Clinton 40%

Throughout GE, I focused on running positive ads about homeland security, which I had gotten a couple of issue bonuses on and researched some insights into. I had a bit more momentum than Romney the whole campaign so I closed on him slowly and then narrowly overtook him in the last two weeks. By election day it was still very close and the game had over 100 EVs as tossups but Gore in a narrow lead.



Final results:
Gore/Clinton 50.4%, 290 EVs
Romney/Pataki 49.6%, 248 EVs

Not bad for a first time (on Hard difficulty, no less) Smiley
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« Reply #2530 on: December 19, 2012, 09:50:11 PM »

Just got P4E 2008, here is my first game:

Ran as Al Gore in the 2008 scenario that comes with the game. Started in the primaries with all characters on for both major parties and 3rd parties off. Was leading in Iowa till the last minute when Mark Warner surged there. He won and I came in 2nd. Warner also won NH. Most of the other candidates dropped out soon after, setting up me vs Hillary with Warner a distant 3rd. I won most of the South and West, Hillary took most of the NE and Midwest. The primary dragged on a long time with Hillary leading but nobody getting a majority By the time the primaries were almost done the delegate count was something like this:

Clinton 1400
Gore 1100
Warner 500

I used all my political influence points to get Warner to drop out and endorse me, which gave me a majority. Offered Hillary my VP and she accepted.

Romney had won the GOP primary pretty early and had been running a GE campaign since then. By the time I won the primary things were not looking good for Team D.


Romney/Pataki 47%
Gore/Clinton 40%

Throughout GE, I focused on running positive ads about homeland security, which I had gotten a couple of issue bonuses on and researched some insights into. I had a bit more momentum than Romney the whole campaign so I closed on him slowly and then narrowly overtook him in the last two weeks. By election day it was still very close and the game had over 100 EVs as tossups but Gore in a narrow lead.



Final results:
Gore/Clinton 50.4%, 290 EVs
Romney/Pataki 49.6%, 248 EVs

Not bad for a first time (on Hard difficulty, no less) Smiley
Awesome! I always play on easy, and still lose landslides Tongue You just inspired me to play as Gore for the first time in 2008, on the other hand...
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« Reply #2531 on: December 20, 2012, 05:21:21 AM »

1980 Primary



Kennedy: 1,642 delegates, 48.8% PV
Carter: 1,632 delegates, 51.2% PV

I finally beat Carter. Cheesy

I'm going to run this twice. Once with Carter as VP, the other with Kennedy picking somebody else. PIPs are exhausted so unless Carter drops out of his own accord, it could get dicey. The Republican nominee is Reagan who crushed Bush in a landslide, and Anderson is an Independent.
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« Reply #2532 on: December 21, 2012, 12:16:06 AM »

West Wing scenario 2006:

I played as Sen. Arnie Vinick (R-CA) vs Rep. Matt Santos (D-TX) vs Sen. Seth Gillette (I-ND)

Won 51-48, 369-169

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« Reply #2533 on: December 21, 2012, 09:23:47 PM »

2016

President Mitt Romney (R-MA)/Vice President Paul Ryan (R-WI)-360 EV, 51.7%-65,994,161 votes.
Former Governor Deval Patrick (D-MA)/Former Secretary Janet Napolitano (D-AZ)-178 EV, 46.2%-59,047,196 votes.
Mr. Wayne Root (L-NV)/Mr. R. Lee Wrights (L-NC)-1.5%-1,863,252 votes.
Mr. Chuck Baldwin (C-MT)/Mrs. Susan Ducey (C-KA)-0.6%-796,649 votes.

Rhode Island was decided by 2%. The DNC was interesting. Hillary didn't win a single delegate to Super Tuesday, and soon after, Feingold endorsed Patrick sending him to the top. I thought Manchin delegates (about 1,100 of them) would go to Hillary, but they split nearly 50-50, and gave the nomination to Patrick by a few delegates. Patrick had $30,000,000 in the bank on election day. I had $600,000,000 and a power 9 scandal on Patrick the week before Tongue.
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« Reply #2534 on: December 22, 2012, 06:55:21 PM »
« Edited: December 22, 2012, 06:57:53 PM by Maxwell »



Mitch Daniels/Susana Martinez - 375 EC, 54.3% - 69,402,013
Barack Obama/Joe Biden - 159, 44.7% - 57,096,866

Closer to the end, my lead started to fade, but then I did some nationwide advertising, and a scandal came up, so I managed to pull my lead back and then some. Middle of the way I was campaigning in Rhode Island!

Obama won New Jersey by 2,000 votes, I won Oregon and Nevada by 2%.
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« Reply #2535 on: December 23, 2012, 03:47:20 PM »

2020

Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL)/Former Governor Sean Parnell (R-AK)-301 EV, 42.7%-63,294,135 votes.
Governor Julian Castro (D-TX)/Senator Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY)-237 EV, 42.5%-63,119,006 votes.
Former Mayor Mike Bloomberg (I-NY)/Senator Angus King (I-ME)-14.8%-21,977,692 votes.

I started as Ryan, though I lost the primaries to Rubio after a series of surprise wins on Super Tuesday. Castro led through the race up until the last weeks, and Bloomberg seemed to be irrelevant. However, I pulled off a narrow win due to Bloomberg splitting votes with Castro. I came in third in DC, with 6.6% of the vote to Bloomberg's 13.5%, and came 3 points away from being third in New York. Iowa was the only surprise, and was the closest state. Castro led through the night in Iowa, and only minutes before the election night ended, I won the state by a margin of 3,000 votes, or 0.2%.
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« Reply #2536 on: December 24, 2012, 02:57:47 PM »

Has anyone ever done this before?

I started playing as Carol Moseley Braun in 2004 in the primaries. Won Michigan first and then Illinois, both by focusing my entire campaign on the states for a number of weeks. Was at 3-4% in the national polls but had a good number of delegates because I won both MI and IL by landslide margins (40%ish). The major candidates by the end of the primaries were Dean, Kerry, and Gephardt, with Gephardt in the lead and only a few hundred delegates from winning. I traded all my PIPs to Dean for his VP slot, which after like 15 offers he finally accepted (to get around the "___ must have his party's nomination locked up" message, I started by offering to Bush and then scrolled up, which allowed me to bypass that message-apparently a glitch in the game). Then, since Gephardt was going to win, I used all Dean's PIPs to get Kerry's VP slot, which Kerry accepted on the first offer. Then, going into the GE, I noticed Kerry had a ton of PIPs and surprisingly good relations with Bush. Just to see what would happen, I offered Bush all Kerry's PIPs for Bush's VP slot since the Dem convention happened before the GOP convention. Bush accepted, after which I got a "list index out of bounds" error and the game froze. Here's a screenshot of the final polls, after Kerry became Bush's VP:



So I started as Carol Moseley Braun and ended as George Bush, or would have if the game didn't crash. Pretty fun. I wish that it had let me continue into the GE as Bush/Kerry vs the thrid party candidates.
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« Reply #2537 on: December 24, 2012, 10:16:14 PM »



Pretty impressive if I do say so myself.

I was comfortably ahead in all the swing-states by mid-October, so I spent the last few weeks literally dumping $$$ in California (I think I spent about 11.5 million there)

Oregon was only about 900 votes difference.  I wish I would have gotten it, there's something symbolic that hapens after you cross the 400 EV mark Wink
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« Reply #2538 on: December 25, 2012, 02:12:28 AM »

1984: (Hard)

I spent 95% of my resources recruiting footsoldiers; I was tied at 42 and ended up winning 52-43, with ~100 footsoldiers in play. It was the dullest game I've played yet, but hey, 450+ EVs as freakin' Mondale is pretty cool, right?
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« Reply #2539 on: December 27, 2012, 02:53:27 AM »



Colin Powell/Rudy Giuliani -- 287 EVs, 54.2%
Howard Dean/Wesley Clark -- 251 EVs, 45.8%

There was a stark possibility I could've won the Electoral vote while losing massively the popular vote, mainly because Powel's margins in the non-swing states were in the 60s or better usually. I put too much focus on the Carolinas, Georgia, and Arkansas, which I lost each by about 1-4 points. I think it was okay considering I started way behind and I lost all three debates, triumphantly (though Clark won the VP debates).
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« Reply #2540 on: January 07, 2013, 11:35:15 PM »
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Senator Bob Graham of Florida -- 1780 Delegates, 44.6%
Governor Howard Dean of Vermont -- 1087 Delegates, 34.4%
Senator John Edwards of North Carolina -- 586, 21%
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« Reply #2541 on: January 10, 2013, 02:16:06 AM »



Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton/Former Governor Brian Schweitzer - 49.4%, 463 EVs
Senator Marco Rubio/Former Governor Jeb Bush - 31.5%, 75 EVs
Mayor Michael Bloomberg/Reality TV Host Donald Trump - 19.1%, 0 EVs

Basically, Rubio won the nomination in a gigantic fight with Bobby Jindal, who did not endorse him after winning a huge amount of later states. As Bloomberg, I put footsoliders everywhere and anywhere I could, particularly in states where my percentages were going up (California, Colorado, Rust Belt, and, shockingly enough, Alabama and Mississippi.) I did not win a single state, though I came within five points of Alabama.

Top 5 Best Bloomberg Results:

Alabama:
Rubio/Bush - 40.3%
Bloomberg/Trump - 35.6%
Clinton/Schweitzer - 24.1%

Alaska:
Rubio/Bush - 43.2%
Bloomberg/Trump - 29%
Clinton/Schweitzer - 27.8%

Colorado:
Clinton/Schweitzer - 42.7%
Rubio/Bush - 29.3%
Bloomberg/Trump - 28%

California:
Clinton/Schweitzer - 50%
Bloomberg/Trump - 27.4%
Rubio/Bush - 22.6%

Iowa:
Clinton/Schweitzer - 45.9%
Rubio/Bush - 28.1%
Bloomberg/Trump - 26%

Bottom 5 Worst Bloomberg Performances:

Tennessee - 6.1% Bloomberg
Indiana - 6.5% Bloomberg
Oklahoma - 7.6% Bloomberg
Utah - 9.5% Bloomberg
Vermont - 9.6% Bloomberg

1st Place in 0 States
2nd Place in 4 States
3rd Place in 46 States
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« Reply #2542 on: January 21, 2013, 12:27:39 AM »

I'm normally too lazy to post results but this one...I couldn't resist. Imagine the forum reaction if it occurred!


Michele Bachmann/Jim Demint: 71% PV, 538 Electoral Votes
Barack Obama/Joe Biden: 29% PV, 0 Electoral Votes

Now, granted, this was on Medium, but nothing was altered and there were no cross-party endorsements to mess it up. I built up in Iowa and New Hampshire, and ultimately, Bachmann narrowly edged out Perry for the nomination. I used up my 5 PIP's to get him to drop out. The economy completely collapsed in early September which took a 5 point lead and turned it into a 20 point lead, and smart money management plus debate momentum brought it to this. I have to say, with no little cheats thrown in, this might be my best performance.
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« Reply #2543 on: January 21, 2013, 12:36:36 AM »

I'm normally too lazy to post results but this one...I couldn't resist. Imagine the forum reaction if it occurred!


Do you know your best state?

Michele Bachmann/Jim Demint: 71% PV, 538 Electoral Votes
Barack Obama/Joe Biden: 29% PV, 0 Electoral Votes

Now, granted, this was on Medium, but nothing was altered and there were no cross-party endorsements to mess it up. I built up in Iowa and New Hampshire, and ultimately, Bachmann narrowly edged out Perry for the nomination. I used up my 5 PIP's to get him to drop out. The economy completely collapsed in early September which took a 5 point lead and turned it into a 20 point lead, and smart money management plus debate momentum brought it to this. I have to say, with no little cheats thrown in, this might be my best performance.
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« Reply #2544 on: January 21, 2013, 12:03:18 PM »

Utah at 89.7.
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« Reply #2545 on: January 21, 2013, 12:11:52 PM »

one question about the map, what is Washington dc at in vote totals
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« Reply #2546 on: January 21, 2013, 02:55:43 PM »

one question about the map, what is Washington dc at in vote totals
I don't remember the exact percentage, but it was comfortably over 60%. Once I realized I was going to easily win, I focused heavily on Massachusetts and D.C., as I thought those would be the toughest states. D.C. went from 40 points against Bachmann to 10 points for her in a span of 3 weeks.
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« Reply #2547 on: January 25, 2013, 12:21:54 AM »



I closed to quickly, but I won as Bloomberg finally. I did not get most of the state percentages, but I did remember what I got overall. Until two weeks before, I was only leading in Rhode Island.

Mayor Michael Bloomberg (I-NY)/Senator Chuck Hagel (R-NE) - 41%, 355 EV's
Governor Mitch Daniels (R-IN)/Senator Jim Demint (R-SC) - 32%, 110 EV's
Senator Kay Hagan (D-NC)/Mike Beebe (D-AR) - 27%, 73 EV's
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« Reply #2548 on: January 27, 2013, 03:11:32 AM »

I feel like I'm running the thread amok, but...

1996, Bill Weld becomes the Republican nominee after months and months of building momentum in early states like Iowa, New Hampshire, Delaware, and the Dakotas, and managed to sweep the entire nation, with Dole only taking the most anti-Weld states of Oklahoma, Texas, Alaska, and his home state of Kansas and McCain taking Hawaii. Once he officially became the nominee, Weld picked Richard Lugar, revered Senator of Indiana, to be his Vice Presidential candidate. From the end of the conventions, Weld possessed an immense, unbeatable lead, and in spite of tons of scandals and negative ads on both sides, Weld won with a victory many thought would be hard considering the economy turning around.



Governor Bill Weld (R-MA)/Senator Dick Lugar (R-IN) - 52%, 506 EV's
President William J. Clinton (D-AR)/House Minority Leader Dick Gephardt (D-MO) - 39%, 32 EV's
Businessman Ross Perot (R-TX)/Former Congressman Ed Zschau (R-CA) - 8%, 0 EV's
Activist Ralph Nader (G-CT)/Enviormentalist Winona LaDuke (G-CA)
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« Reply #2549 on: January 27, 2013, 08:40:59 PM »

I feel like I'm running the thread amok, but...

1996, Bill Weld becomes the Republican nominee after months and months of building momentum in early states like Iowa, New Hampshire, Delaware, and the Dakotas, and managed to sweep the entire nation, with Dole only taking the most anti-Weld states of Oklahoma, Texas, Alaska, and his home state of Kansas and McCain taking Hawaii. Once he officially became the nominee, Weld picked Richard Lugar, revered Senator of Indiana, to be his Vice Presidential candidate. From the end of the conventions, Weld possessed an immense, unbeatable lead, and in spite of tons of scandals and negative ads on both sides, Weld won with a victory many thought would be hard considering the economy turning around.



Governor Bill Weld (R-MA)/Senator Dick Lugar (R-IN) - 52%, 506 EV's
President William J. Clinton (D-AR)/House Minority Leader Dick Gephardt (D-MO) - 39%, 32 EV's
Businessman Ross Perot (R-TX)/Former Congressman Ed Zschau (R-CA) - 8%, 0 EV's
Activist Ralph Nader (G-CT)/Enviormentalist Winona LaDuke (G-CA)
What state's has good Showing's for Ross Perot?
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