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« Reply #2750 on: December 07, 2014, 05:39:48 PM »



Romney/Portman v Obama/Biden
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« Reply #2751 on: December 09, 2014, 03:44:51 PM »

Brian Sandoval/Susana Martinez: 48.3%, 310 EVs
Hillary Clinton/Andrew Cuomo: 47.1%, 228 EVs
Michael Bloomberg/Chuck Hagel: 3%
Gary Johnson/Jim Gray: 1.1%
Jill Stein/Cheri Honkala: 0.5%




States won by Hillary Clinton by less than 10 points:

Washington: 0.9%
Iowa: 2.1%
Pennsylvania: 4.3%
Wisconsin: 6.4%
California: 7.4%

States won by Brian Sandoval by less than 10 points:

Michigan: 0.3%
Florida: 1.2%
North Carolina: 1.2%
West Virginia: 3.5%
Ohio: 4.1%
Colorado: 5.5%
Indiana: 8.3%
Missouri: 8.3%
New Mexico: 8.3%


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« Reply #2752 on: December 17, 2014, 02:10:59 AM »



President Forever 2016, went with Kennedy in the 1968 scenario.  Primary was rather uneventful, as I easily carried most states.  Reagan ended up clinching the Republican nomination.  Was down to the Republicans by about 10 points whenever I locked up the nomination.  Obviously this ended up getting reversed and by the end I was just trying to score the biggest landslide I could manage.

Kennedy/Vance:  55.2% PV, 454 EV
Reagan/Tower:    30% PV, 56 EV
Wallace/Somedude:  14.8% PV, 28 EV
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« Reply #2753 on: December 17, 2014, 11:27:20 PM »



President Infinity, first time around with the update.  2016, wanted a quicker game so I jumped straight to the GE.  Played as Kasich, with my opponent being Cuomo.  I actually like the map, and aside from a few offenders (namely Oregon, Rhode Island, and Maine) it seems fairly plausible.

Kasich/Martinez: 55.1% PV, 341 EV
Cuomo/Kloubchar:  44.9% PV, 197 EV
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« Reply #2754 on: December 18, 2014, 05:55:20 PM »

Playing President Infinity, 2016 scenario as Gillibrand. Clinton and Biden were both off for the scenario. Warren was set to "Unsure" and jumped in early. Sanders, Schweitzer, Webb, Warner and O'Malley were also all on.

On the GOP side, Christie, Cruz, Bush, Paul, Rubio, Carson, Palin, Huntsman, King and Santorum were all on.

Bloomberg is on as an independent, and so are the Libertarian and Green nominees.

First Update: December 15th 2015 - I lead, as Gillibrand, in the first 4 primary states. My focus is entirely on these states. On the GOP side, Palin leads in Iowa. Perry leads in NH closely followed by Palin. Santorum leads in SC, and Palin leads in NV. Fundraising has proven difficult.

Iowa Result: I take Iowa with 43% of the vote to Warner's 24%, Webb's 16%. Palin takes Iowa on the GOP side with Rubio 2 points behind her.

New Hampshire: Palin takes New Hampshire, with Rick Perry right behind her. I take New Hampshire with 49.9% of the vote to Warner's 19.6% followed by Webb at about 12%.

Nevada (Dem): I take Nevada with 34% of the vote to Webb's 23% and Schweitzer's 20%. Schweitzer withdraws after.

South Carolina (GOP): Santorum takes SC, with Palin coming in 4th.

South Carolina (Dem): I take South Carolina with 50% to Warren's 25% -- this is the highest Warren has recieved in the first 4 primaries.

Florida (GOP): Rubio wins overwhelmingly.

Nevada (GOP): Christie takes Nevada with 14.7% to Palin's 14.4% to Carson's 14.0%. This is the best Christie has done so far.

February 2015: I pushed Webb out of the race. King on the GOP side leaves the race. A few different Republicans win a few random primaries. I lead nationally at 30% to Warren's 25%. Oddly enough, Huntsman endorsed Cruz...

Arizona: Warner had been up here for a while and took it, I didn't contest it.

Pre Super Tuesday Delegates --> Post Super Tuesday Delegates

Delegates...
Gillibrand: 135 --> 585
Warren: 27 --> 644
Sanders: 5 --> 63
O'Malley:  6 --> 153
Warner: 113 --> 255

I disagree that Warren would even be viable after losing the first 4 primaries but w/e...Warren comes out ahead on Super Tuesday, but I won Massachusetts.

Cruz: 30 --> 286
Palin: 9 --> 34
Bush: 2 --> 8
Rubio: 155 --> 234
Christie: 31  --> 85
Paul: 44 --> 50
Perry: 4  --> 8
Carson: 41 --> 44
Santorum:29 --> 33

Post Super Tuesday/March: Christie drops out and endorses Cruz. I take Hawaii. Warner drops out and endorses Warren.  Warren takes Maine. Warren leads 961 to 725 in delegates. The in game estimator has me up 777 in the end but lets see. Bush, Palin and Carson drop out mid-March.

We take Illinois & Louisana but I decide to shore up support in NY, PA and CA.

April: O'Malley drops out the day before the MD/WI/DC primaries. I was ahead in WI but was okay with losing MD to O'Malley. DC was a tossup. I end up taking MD and WI. Santorum and Perry drop out. I take a whole bunch of midwestern states bringing my delegate total to 1319 to Warren's 1,302. Sanders is at 144.

NY/PA/CT/DE - I go completely negative running ads against Warren. I don't contest DE, we're already down 30 points. We go onto win all 4 states! We're now ahead by 500 delegates.

May: We're less than 100 delegates from securing the nomination. Sanders and Warren are both still in the race, but it's pretty much over....and now Sanders is out.

May 18th - I have secured the nomination. Rubio and Cruz are basically neck and neck fighting it out on their end still. Cruz has a slight edge in numbers but Rubio is the one going in stronger to the final primaries including California.

May 24th - I pick Tim Kaine as my VP. It's clear that we need Virginia to win the Presidency.

May 30th - The game is saying Cruz locked up the nomination...but he's still under the 1144 mark (he's at 977). He won Texas 85-15. Gary Johnson wins the Libertarian nod.

June 2016 - I beat Warren in overall delegates 70-30. Cruz beat Rubio 64 - 24% Cruz's delegate count is down.

June 15 2016 Status



Gillibrand/Kaine (D) -  201 EV, 40.5% PV
Cruz/TBD (R) - 333 EV, 45.9% PV
Bloomberg/TBD (I) - 0 EV, 5.6% PV
Stein/TBD (G) - 0 EV, 1.7% PV
Johnson/TBD (L) 0 EV, 1.1% PV


Much work to do.

August 2016 - NJ just flipped to Bloomberg (34-12-11). Ugh. This is going to be tough unless Cruz implodes. Gillibrand receiving only 5 stamina per turn hurts. Bloomberg is expanding the map by targeting D states. This is not good.Cruz picked Jodi Ernst for VP.

September 2016 Status




Gillibrand/Kaine (D) -  201 EV, 36.5% PV - $50 million cash on hand
Cruz/Ernst (R) - 299 EV, 38.8% PV - $83 million cash on hand
Bloomberg/Hagel(I) - 14 EV, 7.2% PV - $26 million cash on hand
Stein/Honkala (G) - 0 EV, 1.6% PV - $-12,983 cash on hand
Johnson/Ventura (L) 0 EV, 1.1% PV $-16,649 cash on hand

We've flipped two states to D, and one R state (but traditionally D) has flipped to I.
Cruz must have accepted federal funds. I didn't. Excellent (I now have $127 mil COH)

October Status Update



Gillibrand/Kaine (D) -  187 EV, 37.5% PV - $100 million cash on hand
Cruz/Ernst (R) - 315 EV, 40.2% PV - $76 million cash on hand
Bloomberg/Hagel(I) - 17 EV, 7.2% PV - $1.9 million cash on hand
Stein/Honkala (G) - 0 EV, 1.6% PV - $-1,716 cash on hand
Johnson/Ventura (L) 0 EV, 1.1% PV $-102,291 cash on hand

This is not trending well, but Cruz has limited funds and Bloomberg is out of money.

November Status Update



Gillibrand/Kaine (D) -  200 EV, 41.8% PV - $66 million cash on hand
Cruz/Ernst (R) - 317 EV, 38.8% PV - $76 million cash on hand
Bloomberg/Hagel(I) - 17 EV, 9.1% PV - $210,744 million cash on hand
Stein/Honkala (G) - 0 EV, 1.8% PV - $-14,310 cash on hand
Johnson/Ventura (L) 0 EV, 1.3% PV $-4,950 cash on hand

I think we're going to lose but I believe the final result will be closer.


Final Results



Gillibrand/Kaine (D) -  230 EV, 42.9% PV, 64,505,020 votes
Cruz/Ernst (R) - 291 EV, 43% PV, 64,555,800 votes
Bloomberg/Hagel(I) - 17 EV, 10.6% PV, 15,942,518 votes
Stein/Honkala (G) - 0 EV, 1.8% PV - 2,691,369 votes
Johnson/Ventura (L) 0 EV, 1.7% PV, 2,501,390 votes

So, Cruz received  50,780 votes more nationally than me, which is really closing the gap.

Closest States (in no particular order);

Iowa: Cruz up .4% (yes point 4)
Washington: Cruz up 4%
Nevada: Gillibrand up 3%
New Mexico: Cruz up 4%
Wisconsin: Cruz up 4%
Pennsylvania: Gillibrand up 3%
North Carolina: Gillibrand up 5%
Delaware: Bloomberg up 5% over Gillibrand
New Hampshire: Gillibrand up 2%
Maine: Gillibrnad up 2%
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« Reply #2755 on: December 22, 2014, 08:00:38 PM »



Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchinson (R-TX)/Sen. Olympia Snowe (R-ME) - 384 Electoral Votes, 52.8%
Sen. Dick Durbin (D-IL)/Gov. Christine Gregoire (D-WA) - 154 Electoral Votes, 45.7%
Mr. Ralph Nader (G-CT)/Rep. Cynthia McKinney (G-GA) - 0 Electoral Votes, 1.1%
Gov. Gary Johnson (L-NM)/Mr.Michael Badnarik (L-TX) - 0 Electoral Votes, 0.1%
Gov. Jesse Ventura (R-MN)/Mr. Donald Trump (R-NY) - 0 Electoral Votes, 0.3%
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« Reply #2756 on: December 23, 2014, 11:29:43 PM »

Is President Forever Infinity better than President Forever 2008? I might buy it.
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« Reply #2757 on: December 24, 2014, 12:36:23 AM »

Is President Forever Infinity better than President Forever 2008? I might buy it.

I prefer President Forever 2016 before it was remodeled into president infinity, but its still good.
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« Reply #2758 on: December 26, 2014, 01:08:09 AM »

PF 2008: Clinton vs. Brownback

Clinton - 52.7%, 346 EVs
Brownback - 46.8%, 192 EVs
Peroutka - 0.5%, 0 EVs




States won by Hillary Clinton by less than 10%:

Louisiana: 0.4%
Colorado: 3.1%
North Carolina: 3.8%
Missouri: 5.1%
Illinois: 8.5%
Ohio: 8.5%

States won by Sam Brownback by less than 10%:

Georgia: 3.4%
Florida: 3.5%
Arkansas: 4.3%
Arizona: 7.0%
Texas: 7.7%
Montana: 8.5%
South Carolina: 9.1%


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« Reply #2759 on: January 12, 2015, 10:05:50 PM »

Three-party race with Star Wars characters included - 1996



Freedom: Sen. Sheev Palpatine (AK)/Mr. Anakin Skywalker (HI)
47.064.315 - 38,9% - 271 EV

Republican: Mr. Pat Buchanan (VA)/Rep. Bob Dornan (CA)
37.875.579 - 31,3% - 186 EV

Democratic: Sen. Paul Wellstone (MN)/Sen. John Kerry (MA)
35.999.498 - 29,8% - 81 EV


It's funny 'cause it really looks like Lord Sidious played all his cards to get the least electable oponents nominated Grin
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« Reply #2760 on: January 16, 2015, 01:00:57 AM »
« Edited: January 16, 2015, 01:03:10 AM by Joe Mad »



A fun game and interesting map.  Played the general as Gillibrand vs Romney.  Was close all game, but towards the end I was pretty sure I was going to lose.  Barnstorming, ads, and my foot soldiers ended up saving me.  While I won a respectable electoral college margin, the percentages I won crucial states by were very thin (and likewise for a few of Romney's).  A single percentage point in either direction would have either padded my win or given Romney the victory.

Gillibrand/Webb:  302 Ev/51.2% PV
Romney/Ayotte:  236 EV/48.8% PV
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« Reply #2761 on: January 16, 2015, 11:21:13 AM »



A fun game and interesting map.  Played the general as Gillibrand vs Romney.  Was close all game, but towards the end I was pretty sure I was going to lose.  Barnstorming, ads, and my foot soldiers ended up saving me.  While I won a respectable electoral college margin, the percentages I won crucial states by were very thin (and likewise for a few of Romney's).  A single percentage point in either direction would have either padded my win or given Romney the victory.

Gillibrand/Webb:  302 Ev/51.2% PV
Romney/Ayotte:  236 EV/48.8% PV

It's more fun when it comes down to the wire, right?
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« Reply #2762 on: January 16, 2015, 06:20:50 PM »

I ran the game playing as Observer for my 2004 scenario. Historical players otherwise, I just wanted to see how it'd turn out.

Kerry/Edwards starts at 45.1% with Bush/Cheney at 42.6%. Nader is oddly high at 2.4%. Bush/Cheney leads in the electoral college 279-259.


On September 28th, Democrats are leading in Virginia and Missouri...but losing Ohio, Oregon and Iowa...despite that, no one has a majority in the electoral college.

Between September 28th and October, we flipped to a GOP wave, back to a Democratic win...so it's close. Polls have the Democratic ticket at 46.5% and GOP at 44.5%

Eve of the Election:


John Kerry/John Edwards - 46.1%, 276 EV
George W. Bush/Dick Cheney - 44.4% 254 EV
Ralph Nader/Whoever - 2.4%, 0 EV

Election Results



John Kerry/John Edwards - 50%, 314 EV
George W. Bush/Dick Cheney - 47.4% 224 EV
Ralph Nader/Whoever - 2.6%, 0 EV

I'm surprised that Kerry pulled it off, and even more surprised that Nader got that large of a vote slice, might have to change that...
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« Reply #2763 on: January 16, 2015, 08:55:59 PM »

Is this scenario for President Forever 2008 and did you make it? Because the results seem surprisingly fair for the normal 2004 scenario, which is very lopsided.
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« Reply #2764 on: January 19, 2015, 11:27:34 PM »

President Forever 2016, 2008 Scenario:

Hillary Clinton manages to defeat Barack Obama for the democratic nomination. On the republican side, Fred Thompson never fades during the primaries and eventually wins the nomination. Thompson, hoping to appeal to moderates, selects Rudy Giuliani as his running mate. Meanwhile Clinton makes a move to counter Thompson's southern appeal as she selects Wesley Clark as her running mate.

The Thompson/Giuliani ticket is a alienating and gaffe-prone team who is inept at debating. Meanwhile Clark does wonders in the south.

Election Day is a Clinton landslide:



Clinton/Clark: 431, 54.7%
Thompson/Giulani: 107, 44.3%
Barr/Root: 0, 1%

States won by Hillary Clinton by less than 10%

North Carolina: 0.2%
Idaho: 0.3%
Kentucky: 1.4%
Mississippi: 1.5%
South Carolina: 2.3%
Arkansas: 2.8%
Arizona: 3.3%
Alaska: 3.3%
Florida: 3.3%
Indiana: 3.4%
West Virginia: 5.2%
Missouri: 5.6%
Wisconsin: 6.0%
North Dakota: 6.8%
Montana: 7.8%
Virginia: 9.8%

States won by Fred Thompson by less than 10%:

Georgia: 2.1%
Louisiana: 4.5%
Kansas: 7.5%
Texas: 7.6%
Alabama: 8.5%



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« Reply #2765 on: January 23, 2015, 10:50:59 AM »

Is this scenario for President Forever 2008 and did you make it? Because the results seem surprisingly fair for the normal 2004 scenario, which is very lopsided.

Its for President Infinity. I made it based on a user created 2000 scenario. It also has Powell and McCain as potential Republican contenders. The endorsers in the scenario are inaccurate but who cares, the rest is pretty good.
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« Reply #2766 on: February 15, 2015, 10:57:04 PM »



Governor Christine Todd Whitman of New Jersey/Senator Kay Bailey Hutchinson of Texas - 516 Electoral Votes
Senator Russ Feingold of Wisconsin/Senator John Kerry of Massachusetts - 22 Electoral Votes
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« Reply #2767 on: February 15, 2015, 11:26:55 PM »

where is the link to play this game?
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« Reply #2768 on: February 16, 2015, 08:02:36 PM »



President Bill Clinton/Vice President Al Gore - 357 Electoral Votes
Grand Wizard David Duke/Grand Wizard Donald Black - 181 Electoral Votes

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Senator Kay Bailey Hutchinson/Governor Tom Ridge - 359 Electoral Votes
President Bill Clinton/Vice President Al Gore - 179 Electoral Votes

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Secretary Jack Kemp/Governor George Voinovich - 280 Electoral Votes
President Bill Clinton/Vice President Al Gore - 258 Electoral Votes

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President George Bush/Vice President Dan Quayle - 363 Electoral Votes
Senator Al Gore/Governor Bill Clinton - 175 Electoral Votes

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President George Bush/Vice President Dan Quayle - 318 Electoral Votes
Senator Paul Wellstone/Senator Dennis DeConcini - 220 Electoral Votes
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« Reply #2769 on: February 18, 2015, 05:09:32 PM »



President Gerald Ford of Michigan/Vice President Nelson Rockefeller of New York - 293 Electoral Votes
Congressman Morris Udall of Arizona/Governor Dolph Briscoe of Texas - 236 Electoral Votes
Governor George Wallace of Alabama/Colonel Harlan Sanders of Kentucky - 9 Electoral Votes



Senator Howard Baker of Tennessee/Governor Ronald Reagan of California - 495 Electoral Votes
Governor Jimmy Carter of Georgia/Senator Walter Mondale of Minnesota - 43 Electoral Votes



President Howard Baker of Tennessee/Vice President Ronald Reagan of California - 496 Electoral Votes
Senator Paul Simon of Illinois/Senator David Pryor of Arkansas - 42 Electoral Votes



Senator Ted Kennedy of Massachusetts/Senator Joe Biden of Delaware - 294 Electoral Votes
Vice President Ronald Reagan of California/Senator William Cohen of Maine - 244 Electoral votes



Vice President Joe Biden of Delaware/Senator John Kerry of Massachusetts - 346 Electoral Votes
Mr. Steve Forbes of New Jersey/Governor Elizabeth Dole of Kansas - 192 Electoral Votes



President Joe Biden of Delaware/Vice President John Kerry of Massachusetts - 365 Electoral Votes
Governor Elizabeth Dole of Kansas/Senator Richard Lugar of Indiana - 173 Electoral Votes



General Colin Powell of New York/Senator Jon Kyl of Arizona - 286 Electoral Votes
Senator Paul Wellstone of Minnesota/Senator Jeff Bingaman of New Mexico - 252 Electoral Votes



Governor Hillary Clinton of Arkansas/Senator Bill Richardson of New Mexico - 350 Electoral Votes
President Colin Powell of New York/Vice President Jon Kyl of Arizona - 188 Electoral Votes



President Hillary Clinton of Arkansas/Vice President Bill Richardson of New Mexico - 482 Electoral Votes
Senator John McCain of Arizona/Governor Jesse Ventura of Minnesota - 30 Electoral Votes
Governor Mike Huckabee of Arkansas/Undersecretary Gary Bauer of Kentucky - 26 Electoral Votes



Governor Lincoln Chafee of Rhode Island/Senator Kay Bailey Hutchinson of Texas - 277 Electoral Votes
Vice President Bill Richardson of New Mexico/Senator Sherrod Brown of Ohio - 261 Electoral Votes



Senator Al Gore of Tennessee/Governor Jay Inslee of Washington - 375 Electoral Votes
President Lincoln Chafee of Rhode Island/Vice President Kay Bailey Hutchinson of Texas - 163 Electoral Votes



Vice President Kay Bailey Hutchinson of Texas/Senator Christine Todd Whitman of New Jersey - 389 Electoral Votes
President Al Gore of Tennessee/Vice President Jay Inslee of Washington - 149 Electoral Votes
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« Reply #2770 on: February 21, 2015, 03:49:05 PM »

where is the link to play this game?

http://www.270soft.com

You can download & purchase it there.
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« Reply #2771 on: March 02, 2015, 12:24:51 PM »

Anyone have any good scenarios they want to share?
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« Reply #2772 on: March 29, 2015, 07:06:53 PM »



Governor Chris Christie/Senator Roger Wicker - 310 Electoral Votes, 53.3%
President Barack Obama/Vice President Joe Biden - 228 Electoral Votes, 44.9%
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« Reply #2773 on: April 06, 2015, 06:35:15 PM »


What about for free?
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« Reply #2774 on: April 07, 2015, 04:32:53 PM »

You can download the Demo, but if you love a realistic simulation of an election. Just pay the 19.99, it was that or 4 Five Dollar Footlongs from Subway. I went hungry for about a week, but at least I had President Forever. Spare some change?
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