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« on: September 25, 2004, 05:47:53 am »
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How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power

Rumours of a link between the US first family and the Nazi war machine have circulated for decades. Now the Guardian can reveal how repercussions of events that culminated in action under the Trading with the Enemy Act are still being felt by today's president .

http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1312540,00.html

It's perfect Saturday reading material!
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« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2004, 05:50:44 am »
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Not really an election issue, but amusing anyways
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« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2004, 07:54:19 am »
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How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power

Rumours of a link between the US first family and the Nazi war machine have circulated for decades. Now the Guardian can reveal how repercussions of events that culminated in action under the Trading with the Enemy Act are still being felt by today's president .

It's perfect Saturday reading material!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1312540,00.html

It's interesting that they didn't link in Averill (and Pamela) Harriman to the story.
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« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2004, 08:17:54 am »
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This is to be expected from such a partisan rag.
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« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2004, 08:44:45 am »
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This is to be expected from such a partisan rag.

I think it works both ways.

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« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2004, 09:34:51 am »
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This is to be expected from such a partisan rag.

I think it works both ways.

Dave

How do you mean? The Sun doesn't count, it isn't a newspaper.

The Telegraph, The Times, or the Economist is never so blatantly biased and you know it.
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« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2004, 04:20:34 pm »
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Oh, so that's where Bush got his fascist qualities!


It runs in the family!

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« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2004, 06:14:00 pm »
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So now the Bush family is responsible for Hitler.

LMAO
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« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2004, 06:31:51 pm »
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So now the Bush family is responsible for Hitler.

LMAO

Actually, you should read about George Walker and Prescott Bush.
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« Reply #9 on: September 25, 2004, 07:02:57 pm »
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The Nazi family connection was already tried against Arnold.  Get a new playbook.
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« Reply #10 on: September 25, 2004, 09:33:48 pm »
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The Nazi family connection was already tried against Arnold.  Get a new playbook.

Umm, there's plenty of evidence here. The Bush adminstration was forcefully stopped from trading military supplies with the enemy 10 months into WWII. The Bush family is a bunch of traitors.
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« Reply #11 on: September 25, 2004, 09:44:03 pm »
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The Bush family is corrupt and has long ties to Saudi oil interests and arms dealers.  They are war profiteers of the lowest order.  This has to be one of the least honorable industries in the world, and they have been at it for decades.
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« Reply #12 on: September 25, 2004, 10:00:03 pm »
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The Bush family is corrupt and has long ties to Saudi oil interests and arms dealers.  They are war profiteers of the lowest order.  This has to be one of the least honorable industries in the world, and they have been at it for decades.

John Kerry is corrupt! He personally oversaw the sale of arms by Pablo Escobar to FARC in 1984. He has ties to the Russian Mafia and Aum Shinrikyo. Kerry has sent over 5 pounds to Hamas and the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade. According to some reports, while at college he attended a Klu Klux Klan rally, and while there lynched several black people.
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« Reply #13 on: September 26, 2004, 05:29:12 am »
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This is to be expected from such a partisan rag.
Doesn't the Guardian use a lot of reporters who essentially free-lance, so you get kooky stories like this, while the Observor is more tightly edited, and run like a conventional newspaper?
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« Reply #14 on: September 26, 2004, 06:49:11 am »
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This is to be expected from such a partisan rag.

I think it works both ways.

Dave

How do you mean? The Sun doesn't count, it isn't a newspaper.

The Telegraph, The Times, or the Economist is never so blatantly biased and you know it.

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« Reply #15 on: September 26, 2004, 08:08:48 am »
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Next Republicans will be saying Kerry wants to construct a tunnel to the Vatican!
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« Reply #16 on: September 26, 2004, 02:43:21 pm »
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The Bush family is corrupt and has long ties to Saudi oil interests and arms dealers.  They are war profiteers of the lowest order.  This has to be one of the least honorable industries in the world, and they have been at it for decades.

John Kerry is corrupt! He personally oversaw the sale of arms by Pablo Escobar to FARC in 1984. He has ties to the Russian Mafia and Aum Shinrikyo. Kerry has sent over 5 pounds to Hamas and the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade. According to some reports, while at college he attended a Klu Klux Klan rally, and while there lynched several black people.

According to some reports, Bush personally killed 15000 black people with a machine gun.
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« Reply #17 on: September 26, 2004, 02:48:38 pm »
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The Bush family is corrupt and has long ties to Saudi oil interests and arms dealers.  They are war profiteers of the lowest order.  This has to be one of the least honorable industries in the world, and they have been at it for decades.

John Kerry is corrupt! He personally oversaw the sale of arms by Pablo Escobar to FARC in 1984. He has ties to the Russian Mafia and Aum Shinrikyo. Kerry has sent over 5 pounds to Hamas and the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade. According to some reports, while at college he attended a Klu Klux Klan rally, and while there lynched several black people.

According to some reports, Bush personally killed 15000 black people with a machine gun.

According to John Kerry's own reports on himself he cut off heads and burned villages.

[Oh wait! He ACTUALLY said that!]
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« Reply #18 on: September 26, 2004, 02:57:42 pm »
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The Bush family is corrupt and has long ties to Saudi oil interests and arms dealers.  They are war profiteers of the lowest order.  This has to be one of the least honorable industries in the world, and they have been at it for decades.

John Kerry is corrupt! He personally oversaw the sale of arms by Pablo Escobar to FARC in 1984. He has ties to the Russian Mafia and Aum Shinrikyo. Kerry has sent over 5 pounds to Hamas and the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade. According to some reports, while at college he attended a Klu Klux Klan rally, and while there lynched several black people.

According to some reports, Bush personally killed 15000 black people with a machine gun.

According to John Kerry's own reports on himself he cut off heads and burned villages.

[Oh wait! He ACTUALLY said that!]

Yawn, no he didn't
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« Reply #19 on: September 26, 2004, 03:11:26 pm »
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Yes he did actually. Don't pay much attention to the news, eh?
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« Reply #20 on: September 26, 2004, 04:14:05 pm »
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Yes he did actually. Don't pay much attention to the news, eh?

He never said he did that. Read what he said more carefully.
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« Reply #21 on: September 26, 2004, 04:27:36 pm »
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Next Republicans will be saying Kerry wants to construct a tunnel to the Vatican!

Oh, will we!?!?  What a moronic thing for you to say, especially considering that I and most other praticing Catholics are Republicans.  On the Converse side, a vast majority of non-practicing and indeed, those who show an open distain for the "faith they were baptized into" are staunch Democrats.
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« Reply #22 on: September 26, 2004, 04:30:21 pm »
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Well, Kerry did claim to participate in "war crimes," in his own words.

Kerry's mother's family, the Forbes, trafficed in drugs for a while.

Both of things are true and will note that saying both of these things this way, while technically true, are matters of spin.

I don't think Kerry's "war crimes" or his family's "drug business" are relevent.
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« Reply #23 on: September 26, 2004, 04:34:12 pm »
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I just find it humorous that the DNC whines about the negativity of the Bush campaign and then they Kerry supporters come out with something as obviously vicious and unimportant to the current election as this.

Honestly, there is no attempt at all at any kind of intelletual honesty.
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« Reply #24 on: September 26, 2004, 04:47:22 pm »
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Well, Kerry did claim to participate in "war crimes," in his own words.

Kerry's mother's family, the Forbes, trafficed in drugs for a while.

Both of things are true and will note that saying both of these things this way, while technically true, are matters of spin.

I don't think Kerry's "war crimes" or his family's "drug business" are relevent.

I'll scratch the word "war crimes" and insert the word "atrocities." :-)
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