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« on: January 14, 2009, 08:11:57 pm »
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I think Obama's best district was 57; McCain polled like 1% there. McCain's best was 48. Both are in Brooklyn and there's only one district between them. I think 48 is Dov Hikind's district.

If the lines look a little wonky in places it's because I drew the district outlines myself and racial gerrymandering is as evil to draw on such a small scale as it is morally.
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« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2009, 08:39:41 pm »
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2008 or 2000? (it refers to Obama and McCain, but is in the 2000 forum)

Anyhow, I'm surprised there are several assembly districts in Brooklyn voting for McCain. Do you know anything about them, Al?
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« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2009, 08:55:55 pm »
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^ Pretty sure those are Orthodox Jewish neighborhoods. I think the dark blue one is Boro/Borough Park. I would recommend reading about it on Wikipedia if you're curious.

I think the southernmost part of Brooklyn might be more like Staten Island--working class whites, probably mostly of Italian and Irish ancestry. But I'm not positive on that.

Basically, these are areas that aren't going to like a black guy named Hussein. Wink

I think this map is worth reposting now:


Green=White
Blue=Black
Red=Hispanic
Yellow=Asian
White=No majority
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« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2009, 09:07:29 pm »
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2008 or 2000? (it refers to Obama and McCain, but is in the 2000 forum)

Ah... it's 2008... I'll ask the mod to move it then...

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Anyhow, I'm surprised there are several assembly districts in Brooklyn voting for McCain. Do you know anything about them, Al?

Mostly working class residentialish. Basically no Blacks. Depending on the district, we're talking lots of Orthodox Jews (I think (most of?) Borough Park is in 48) or lots of Italians (Russians as well in the easternmost one). Bay Ridge is more affluent (and more Irish) and voted for Obama, though is in the same district as part of Staten Island so is blue on the map.
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« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2009, 09:18:22 pm »
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Quote from: The Singing Detective on January 14, 2009, 08:11:57 pm

I think Obama's best district was 57; McCain polled like 1% there.

I find this kind of surprising, since Crown Heights, infamously, has a few Hasidim of its own. I mean, I knew most of them left after the riots but if this is true they must be essentially all gone.

Don't know how the % black compare in the very black districts of NYC, but if there are other equally black districts a little less Obama, then the obvious lesson is that the West Indies vote was around 100% for Obama as opposed to his native black 95. Maybe they don't have the 1 in 20 evangelical nutters coming from the islands.
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« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2009, 09:27:52 pm »
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Just double-checked and it was 1.89%.
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« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2009, 09:35:11 pm »
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Well there you go. Now that I look at the map a little closer, the international HQ of Chabad Lubavitch on Atlantic Ave. is two and a half blocks east of this district's boundary, so maybe they're very concentrated right around the building in the next district over. (I mean, the ones in this area- obviously the main concentration is in Boro Park)

Anyway, cool map. Where are you getting the results from?
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« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2009, 10:08:56 pm »
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A little insight re: the McCain areas in Brooklyn...

From the upper-left going to the lower right are Bay Ridge (Norwegian/Irish/mixed-white), Borough Park (Jewish), Midwood (Jewish), Bensonhurst (Italian), Bath Beach (Italian), Gravesend (Italian), Marine Park (Irish), Sheepshead Bay (mixed-white), and Brighton Beach and Manhattan Beach (Russian/Ukrainian Jews; aka "Little Odessa"). 

The two Obama areas surrounded by McCain areas in Brooklyn are Dyker Heights (mixed-white; affluent) and Coney Island (Black/Hispanic).
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« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2009, 10:18:24 pm »
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Bay Ridge, of course, is actually a Democratic area--but that district is the same as the southeastern Staten Island one, and that area of Staten Island is the most intensely Republican part.

Anyway, very nice map. What are the chances for a map by City Council district or Senate district?
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« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2009, 10:27:39 pm »
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A little insight re: the McCain areas in Brooklyn...

From the upper-left going to the lower right are Bay Ridge (Norwegian/Irish/mixed-white), Borough Park (Jewish), Midwood (Jewish), Bensonhurst (Italian), Bath Beach (Italian), Gravesend (Italian), Marine Park (Irish), Sheepshead Bay (mixed-white), and Brighton Beach and Manhattan Beach (Russian/Ukrainian Jews; aka "Little Odessa"). 

The two Obama areas surrounded by McCain areas in Brooklyn are Dyker Heights (mixed-white; affluent) and Coney Island (Black/Hispanic).

Dyker Heights is very affluent, but is pretty much Italian and is partially in #46 (the red district amidst the blue which is mainly Bay Ridge and in #49 (the blue district to the right below 48)

From the look of the Assembly maps and my knowledge of the area, the part in #46 appears to be the most affluent part of Dyker Heights, if that helps.

The strongest McCain parts of Brooklyn will undoubtedly be the Italian parts (even if affluent, like Dyker Heights), the Orthodox Jew parts (note the area where Williamsburg is within Brooklyn is shaded lighter red as well) and the Russian parts.  McCain probably won many of these precincts, I suspect.  The Russians really don't like black people, when I've talked to them, at least.  Tongue
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« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2009, 10:39:48 pm »
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« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2009, 10:49:47 pm »
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I look forward to the Queens map. 
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« Reply #12 on: January 15, 2009, 02:20:23 am »
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New York Italians hate a black (but we already knew that). Hopefully they'll fear Obama's powers a little less in '12.
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« Reply #13 on: January 15, 2009, 03:00:21 am »
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New York Italians hate a black (but we already knew that).

New York Italians hate everyone. 
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« Reply #14 on: January 15, 2009, 03:42:41 am »
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Quote from: bgwah on January 14, 2009, 08:55:55 pm
Basically, these are areas that aren't going to like a black guy named Hussein. Wink

I think this map is worth reposting now:


Green=White
Blue=Black
Red=Hispanic
Yellow=Asian
White=No majority

are you trying to suggest that race might somehow be related to how people in NYC vote?  I find that suggestion offensive and preposterous
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« Reply #15 on: January 15, 2009, 11:45:40 pm »
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Let's not give people the wrong impression here. While whites may be the ONLY people in NY to vote Republican, it's not like there's some shortage of white liberals in NYC.
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« Reply #16 on: January 16, 2009, 12:05:51 am »
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I actually know quite a few black people who voted for McCain (I'm serious).
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« Reply #17 on: January 16, 2009, 06:35:02 am »
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Just because...



Map shows % leads for the State Assembly elections (2008). Loads of uncontested races, obviously.
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« Reply #18 on: January 16, 2009, 02:47:38 pm »
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The *most* Republican district on there was a gerrymander to protect Brooklyn's last Republican assembly member IIRC.
Fell in 2006, IIRC. In which case the 2008 result is, well, wow.
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« Reply #19 on: January 16, 2009, 05:27:10 pm »
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For reference: The 2005 Mayoral results by AD
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« Reply #20 on: January 16, 2009, 05:32:38 pm »
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A map of 2004 would be interesting.
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« Reply #21 on: January 16, 2009, 06:55:18 pm »
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Here's the 04 results
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« Reply #22 on: January 16, 2009, 07:00:11 pm »
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Great stuff, though you might want to remove my signature from them Smiley
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« Reply #23 on: January 16, 2009, 07:13:57 pm »
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What is that Kerry > McCain AD in Brooklyn?
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« Reply #24 on: January 16, 2009, 08:50:10 pm »
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What is that Kerry > McCain AD in Brooklyn?

AD49.  Mainly Bensonhurst.  Historic home of Italians, though the Russians and Asians have moved in, and the Italian population is getting older.  Has a pretty ugly racist history (not to mention Mafia history).

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