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« on: January 17, 2009, 10:58:55 am »
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Rasmussen polled Meg Whitman against 3 possible democratic candidates- former governor Jerry Brown, Gavin Newsom and Anthony Villaraigosa.
The results were-
Whitman 38%- Brown 40%

Whitman 37%- Newsom 34%
 
Whitman 41%- Villaraigosa 34%

Whitman leads amongst unaffiliated voters in all 3 scenarios and receive more than 70% of republicans in all of the scenarios.
Brown earns the backing of 67% of Democrats, more than Newsom and Villaraigosa with 57% and 56% of democrats, respectively.
Whitman favorability rating is +21, Brown's +8, Newsom -5 and Villaraigosa -4. Whitman is also the least known candidate as only 65% of voters have an opinion of her so she could grow in numbers in the next 2 years.
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« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2009, 11:01:28 am »
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The link- http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_2010/election_2010_governor_elections/california/election_2010_california_governor_election
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« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2009, 01:22:48 pm »
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Stop Newsom. Now!
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« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2009, 02:02:38 pm »
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Stop Newsom. Now!
Whether you like it or not.
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« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2009, 02:03:47 pm »
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Stop Newsom. Now!

What about Newsom evokes so much loathing?
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« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2009, 02:48:22 pm »
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Stop Newsom. Now!
Whether you like it or not.

it ain't gonna happen.
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« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2009, 02:51:52 pm »
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Most likely not, but he's not a boogeyman like Lou Dobbs and the Republican talking points say he is.
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« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2009, 03:20:30 pm »
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This is too early to be making any predictions but it does gives us some insight. One Whitman is much more popular then I thought. She is also more known than I would have guessed and while she is the lowest in that it is still higher than I thought. I would have thought that Brown would lead her by 20 instead he only leads by 2. I think I can gather that A. Californians are pissed off, B. They want someone new. Its up to Whitman, if she gets in, to sell herself to the people and get half that 35% that does not know here to support her. I would like to see polling for Poizner and some other Dems like Sanchez.
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« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2009, 05:53:40 pm »
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Newsom ftw. Brown wouldn't be bad either though. Villaraigosa sucks and I'm glad to see him sucking here.
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« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2009, 06:35:09 pm »
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Newsom for Governor! He'd basically be Elliot Spitzer but without the paying the women money before they have affairs with him.
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« Reply #10 on: January 17, 2009, 10:59:24 pm »
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Newsom for Governor! He'd basically be Elliot Spitzer but without the paying the women money before they have affairs with him.

They would pay him.

What surprises me about this poll is that 71% of those polled think they know enough about either Whitman or Newsom to have an opinion.
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« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2009, 11:03:14 pm »
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I have a feeling that this one will be very interesting.
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« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2009, 11:03:36 pm »
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It looks to me like its mostly Democrats who are undecided in this race.  Even Brown gets just 66% of Democrats right now.  
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« Reply #13 on: January 17, 2009, 11:09:31 pm »
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How many of those 37% have any idea how much Whitman hates American workers? As for Newsom, he has made gay marriage his signature issue, but is he really that liberal otherwise?
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« Reply #14 on: January 17, 2009, 11:17:16 pm »
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Newsom all practices free-love when it comes to his best friends' wives, that seems pretty liberal doesn't it?

I have a feeling that Republicans are far more likely to respond in a California poll, especially against Newsom. I suspect most of the undecideds will fall as they should.


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« Reply #15 on: January 17, 2009, 11:24:02 pm »
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How many of those 37% have any idea how much Whitman hates American workers?

You have to be a little bit more specific
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« Reply #16 on: January 17, 2009, 11:41:24 pm »
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How many of those 37% have any idea how much Whitman hates American workers?

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The need for more H1B visas is also a sticking point for her, and one that got many nods in agreement from the audience. Currently, the government allows about 60,000 visas per year, which she called "woefully inadequate." The real need is more like 500,000 visas, she said. Bill Gates has testified before Congress many times on this issue.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/posttech/2008/10/ebays_meg_whitman_talks_tech_and_policy.html
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« Reply #17 on: January 18, 2009, 10:18:31 am »
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How many of those 37% have any idea how much Whitman hates American workers?

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The need for more H1B visas is also a sticking point for her, and one that got many nods in agreement from the audience. Currently, the government allows about 60,000 visas per year, which she called "woefully inadequate." The real need is more like 500,000 visas, she said. Bill Gates has testified before Congress many times on this issue.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/posttech/2008/10/ebays_meg_whitman_talks_tech_and_policy.html

THats not a labor issue, thats an Immigration issue. An let me tell you a secret. OBAMA WANTS TO DO THE SAME THING.
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« Reply #18 on: January 18, 2009, 11:55:42 am »
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Yeah, is there anything wrong with giving more visas?
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« Reply #19 on: January 18, 2009, 12:56:55 pm »
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Yeah, is there anything wrong with giving more visas?

Yeah, this won't hurt her, especially in California where there's already a significant Asian population. After all, the point is to recruit Asians who came to America to study science and engineering in the first place. Might as well have them work here rather than just study here then go back to their home country and work. The way to get Americans in these fields is to invest in science education in public schools, not block immigrants from coming to work here.
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Yeah, is there anything wrong with giving more visas?

Yeah, this won't hurt her, especially in California where there's already a significant Asian population. After all, the point is to recruit Asians who came to America to study science and engineering in the first place. Might as well have them work here rather than just study here then go back to their home country and work. The way to get Americans in these fields is to invest in science education in public schools, not block immigrants from coming to work here.

But when immigrants come here, they tighten the labor market and disincentive American students from studying science and engineering because the American students realize they will be competing with Asians and others from all other the world, whereas if they go into something like law, they don't have to. 500,000 jobs is a lot. California citizen Asians should feel the same way, as they are in the same boat as other Americans.

Also, they really should go back to their home country and work. When Asian countries are a little more prosperous, perhaps they'll be able to consume some of their own produce and actually--shock import more from the United States. That is the only hope of correcting the imbalances in the global economy.
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« Reply #21 on: January 18, 2009, 02:00:38 pm »
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How many of those 37% have any idea how much Whitman hates American workers?

You have to be a little bit more specific

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The need for more H1B visas is also a sticking point for her, and one that got many nods in agreement from the audience. Currently, the government allows about 60,000 visas per year, which she called "woefully inadequate." The real need is more like 500,000 visas, she said. Bill Gates has testified before Congress many times on this issue.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/posttech/2008/10/ebays_meg_whitman_talks_tech_and_policy.html

THats not a labor issue, thats an Immigration issue. An let me tell you a secret. OBAMA WANTS TO DO THE SAME THING.

Of course it's a labor issue. What sort of job do you plan on getting? Would you like for it to have crap wages?


Yeah, is there anything wrong with giving more visas?

They drive down wages.

Yeah, is there anything wrong with giving more visas?

Yeah, this won't hurt her, especially in California where there's already a significant Asian population. After all, the point is to recruit Asians who came to America to study science and engineering in the first place. Might as well have them work here rather than just study here then go back to their home country and work. The way to get Americans in these fields is to invest in science education in public schools, not block immigrants from coming to work here.

Why would Asian-Americans want to be laid off in favor of some H-1B?


Yeah, is there anything wrong with giving more visas?

Yeah, this won't hurt her, especially in California where there's already a significant Asian population. After all, the point is to recruit Asians who came to America to study science and engineering in the first place. Might as well have them work here rather than just study here then go back to their home country and work. The way to get Americans in these fields is to invest in science education in public schools, not block immigrants from coming to work here.

But when immigrants come here, they tighten the labor market and disincentive American students from studying science and engineering because the American students realize they will be competing with Asians and others from all other the world, whereas if they go into something like law, they don't have to. 500,000 jobs is a lot. California citizen Asians should feel the same way, as they are in the same boat as other Americans.

Also, they really should go back to their home country and work. When Asian countries are a little more prosperous, perhaps they'll be able to consume some of their own produce and actually--shock import more from the United States. That is the only hope of correcting the imbalances in the global economy.

Damn straight. Lawyers get to control who work in their field, so naturally they exclude people they don't want. We need to have H-1Bs for lawyers and get rid of the bullsh**t that an expensive law degree is required for some weed out bar exam just so that you can practice. Then the lawyers will eliminate H-1Bs in no time. Lawyers are all about protecting their profession while screwing others over.
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« Reply #22 on: January 18, 2009, 02:02:37 pm »
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How about Sanchez-Whitman, any guesses?
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« Reply #23 on: January 18, 2009, 03:18:34 pm »
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How many of those 37% have any idea how much Whitman hates American workers?

You have to be a little bit more specific

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The need for more H1B visas is also a sticking point for her, and one that got many nods in agreement from the audience. Currently, the government allows about 60,000 visas per year, which she called "woefully inadequate." The real need is more like 500,000 visas, she said. Bill Gates has testified before Congress many times on this issue.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/posttech/2008/10/ebays_meg_whitman_talks_tech_and_policy.html

THats not a labor issue, thats an Immigration issue. An let me tell you a secret. OBAMA WANTS TO DO THE SAME THING.

Of course it's a labor issue. What sort of job do you plan on getting? Would you like for it to have crap wages?


Yeah, is there anything wrong with giving more visas?

They drive down wages.

Yeah, is there anything wrong with giving more visas?

Yeah, this won't hurt her, especially in California where there's already a significant Asian population. After all, the point is to recruit Asians who came to America to study science and engineering in the first place. Might as well have them work here rather than just study here then go back to their home country and work. The way to get Americans in these fields is to invest in science education in public schools, not block immigrants from coming to work here.

Why would Asian-Americans want to be laid off in favor of some H-1B?


Yeah, is there anything wrong with giving more visas?

Yeah, this won't hurt her, especially in California where there's already a significant Asian population. After all, the point is to recruit Asians who came to America to study science and engineering in the first place. Might as well have them work here rather than just study here then go back to their home country and work. The way to get Americans in these fields is to invest in science education in public schools, not block immigrants from coming to work here.

But when immigrants come here, they tighten the labor market and disincentive American students from studying science and engineering because the American students realize they will be competing with Asians and others from all other the world, whereas if they go into something like law, they don't have to. 500,000 jobs is a lot. California citizen Asians should feel the same way, as they are in the same boat as other Americans.

Also, they really should go back to their home country and work. When Asian countries are a little more prosperous, perhaps they'll be able to consume some of their own produce and actually--shock import more from the United States. That is the only hope of correcting the imbalances in the global economy.

Damn straight. Lawyers get to control who work in their field, so naturally they exclude people they don't want. We need to have H-1Bs for lawyers and get rid of the bullsh**t that an expensive law degree is required for some weed out bar exam just so that you can practice. Then the lawyers will eliminate H-1Bs in no time. Lawyers are all about protecting their profession while screwing others over.


Hey, I agree with you it will depress wages. The reason this is an immigration issues is b/c thats how the Dems are framing it so they can justify voting for it. If it were a labor issue they would lose votes in them midwest. So they attach it to things like Amnesty and and the E-verify reauthorization. The two HP's who keep pushing this are Zoe Lofgen(D-CA) and Charles Boustany(R-LA). Whats so surprising is that the Dems have abandoned the unions on the Immigration and are hoping they can pass the Employee Forced Choice act to prevent them from getting angry.

Whitman is wrong on this issue but she is running for Governor not Senate so I am not worried about it. It would proabably help win votes of Asians maybe Hispanics.
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« Reply #24 on: January 18, 2009, 03:23:09 pm »
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How many of those 37% have any idea how much Whitman hates American workers?

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The need for more H1B visas is also a sticking point for her, and one that got many nods in agreement from the audience. Currently, the government allows about 60,000 visas per year, which she called "woefully inadequate." The real need is more like 500,000 visas, she said. Bill Gates has testified before Congress many times on this issue.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/posttech/2008/10/ebays_meg_whitman_talks_tech_and_policy.html

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