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« on: January 21, 2009, 04:09:57 pm »
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since he was cheated out of his reelection to the senate, perhaps he should run for president?

he would be a good, non-southern, moderate voice for the gop.
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« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2009, 04:10:42 pm »
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since he was cheated out of his reelection to the senate, perhaps he should run for president?

he would be a good, non-southern, moderate voice for the gop.

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« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2009, 04:15:42 pm »
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He can win Minnesota!
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« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2009, 04:23:43 pm »
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In before BRTD.

This thread has potential.
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« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2009, 04:25:39 pm »
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He can win Minnesota!

that would be a stretch, obviously.

but is it unrealistic to see him winning every mccain state + va + nc + oh + fl (lots of snowbirds there that would love his brooklyn accent) + ia?
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« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2009, 04:43:36 pm »
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Yes.
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« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2009, 04:44:48 pm »
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I actually was thinking about this, maybe if he runs for governor in '10
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« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2009, 05:18:54 pm »
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I've always liked Coleman and spoke of how I would like to see him on a national ticket someday. However, he doesn't have what it takes to get through a primary and I can't see him waging a General election campaign. I don't know that the whole Brooklyn Jew thing is all that appealing to many people.
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« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2009, 06:31:11 pm »
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I honestly don't know.  What makes him moderate?
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« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2009, 07:55:47 pm »
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Yeah, Coleman was completely cheated by those Republican-leaning committees and that Democratic Secretary of State that keeps rejecting Franken's requests
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« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2009, 08:43:28 pm »
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Yes...cheated, CHEATED I SAY! Pesky electorate preferring other candidates...

In all seriousness though, the only distinguishable thing about Norm Coleman is his abnormal facial structure. Senator was his political ceiling and the idea of him running a Presidential campaign is laughable for reasons outside of being a "moderate" in the GOP.
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« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2009, 10:02:54 pm »
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I honestly don't know.  What makes him moderate?

He's a member of the Republican Main Street Partnership, interest group ratings generally rate him as one of the most liberal Republicans in the Senate, former Democrat (obviously)...

To answer your question, I'm not entirely sure... he seems to pretty much toe the Republican line in terms of rhetoric...

To his credit, he was a member of the "Gang of 20".
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« Reply #12 on: January 21, 2009, 11:12:34 pm »
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he would be a good, non-southern, moderate voice for the gop.

Norm Coleman is a moderate?

Norm Coleman is a right-wing rubber stamper.
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« Reply #13 on: January 21, 2009, 11:55:31 pm »
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Right...  because nothing says victory like nominating the guy who lost to a bodybuilder from the movie Predator and Stewart Smalley!
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« Reply #14 on: January 22, 2009, 12:09:53 am »
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Walter, of course, doesn't believe any of what he said, he is merely attempting to start a fight (particularly with BRTD) and attract attention to himself. I really find it odd that I'm the only who seems to see him for the troll he is.
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« Reply #15 on: January 22, 2009, 12:10:33 am »
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LOL. Thanks for a great post-work laugh.

This first sums up my thoughts:

Right...  because nothing says victory like nominating the guy who lost to a bodybuilder from the movie Predator and Stewart Smalley!

Coleman is going to have a tough time saying "I lost to Al Franken so nominate me for President"

He can win Minnesota!

that would be a stretch, obviously.

It would be more than a stretch to think someone who can't beat Al Franken can beat Obama.

but is it unrealistic to see him winning every mccain state + va + nc + oh + fl (lots of snowbirds there that would love his brooklyn accent) + ia?

Oh yes, that's exactly the main thing people vote on, accent, not issues or anything. Roll Eyes

For the rest, I don't see why he would play any better than a generic Republican, and for Iowa he'd do horribly. If we assume Iowa is like rural Minnesota, look at how Coleman ran out there. He ran further behind McCain than Franken did behind Obama in many places. Look at Aitkin and Pine counties. Both were very narrow for Obama with under 50% (Aitkin only by 6 votes.) but voted for Franken. The reason is obviously that Obama voters were more partisan and stuck with Franken while many McCain voters jumped to Barkley. Coleman has hardly any appeal to Iowa.

I actually was thinking about this, maybe if he runs for governor in '10

God yes, I would love for the GOP candidate in 2010 to be someone with net 20 disapprovals!
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« Reply #16 on: January 22, 2009, 12:20:12 am »
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So...even if you did feel that Norm Coleman was cheated, is a guy who can only muster 42% of the voters of his home state to reelect him to the Senate (and has never even broken fifty percent in a statewide competition in his home state) a strong candidate for President?
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« Reply #17 on: January 22, 2009, 12:23:36 am »
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i dont think losing an election automatically ends your presidential chances.

george bush (both of them) lost election(s).  bill clinton lost an election. richard nixon lost elections. lbj lost an election.  fdr lost elections.

come on republicans.  youd rather have the huckster, sarah palin or mitt romney than norm coleman or bob erlich?
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« Reply #18 on: January 22, 2009, 12:25:23 am »
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george bush (both of them) lost election(s).  bill clinton lost an election. richard nixon lost elections. lbj lost an election.  fdr lost elections.

True.  However, none of them lost an election to Al Franken.

And what did Bill Clinton lose?
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« Reply #19 on: January 22, 2009, 12:28:33 am »
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george bush (both of them) lost election(s).  bill clinton lost an election. richard nixon lost elections. lbj lost an election.  fdr lost elections.

True.  However, none of them lost an election to Al Franken.

And what did Bill Clinton lose?

1974 race for congress.  and 1980 reelection for governor.
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« Reply #20 on: January 22, 2009, 12:35:03 am »
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george bush (both of them) lost election(s).  bill clinton lost an election. richard nixon lost elections. lbj lost an election.  fdr lost elections.

True.  However, none of them lost an election to Al Franken.

And what did Bill Clinton lose?

1974 race for congress.  and 1980 reelection for governor.

Neither of which was against Al Franken.
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« Reply #21 on: January 22, 2009, 12:37:58 am »
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I actually was thinking about this, maybe if he runs for governor in '10

God yes, I would love for the GOP candidate in 2010 to be someone with net 20 disapprovals!

     Mark Dayton might actually perform well.
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« Reply #22 on: January 22, 2009, 01:05:23 am »
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Dayton at his worst was like -5, nothing compared to Coleman. He also would've won reelection had he ran in 2006, unlike Coleman. It's moot though, he's very unlikely to be the nominee.
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« Reply #23 on: January 22, 2009, 01:42:00 am »

i dont think losing an election automatically ends your presidential chances.

george bush (both of them) lost election(s).  bill clinton lost an election. richard nixon lost elections. lbj lost an election.  fdr lost elections.

As did Obama.  But all of them, except Nixon, won subsequent elections before becoming president.  And Nixon was kind of a special case, as he was already a major national figure by 1968.  Coleman certainly will not be going in to 2012.

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« Reply #24 on: January 22, 2009, 01:52:49 am »
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Dayton at his worst was like -5, nothing compared to Coleman. He also would've won reelection had he ran in 2006, unlike Coleman. It's moot though, he's very unlikely to be the nominee.

     Also, it's Minnesota, so for a Democrat to get numbers like Coleman's, he would have to publically declare that he was Satan incarnated.
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