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« Reply #10100 on: September 23, 2012, 07:40:29 pm »
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So Obama has a 51% approval rating while Carter had a 37% approval rating? Yep, this is exactly like 1980.
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« Reply #10101 on: September 23, 2012, 09:19:28 pm »
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Stop deflating Republican fantasies with factual evidence.
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« Reply #10102 on: September 23, 2012, 09:29:08 pm »
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So Obama is running 12-14 points ahead of the last two Presidents to lose re-election while within the margin of error of the last President to win re-election?

The dude is finished.
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« Reply #10103 on: September 23, 2012, 09:31:16 pm »
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Romney needed a great summer (ie, horrible for everyone else) to make in-roads. The undecideds in this race are too low to wait until the last few weeks. He needed to define himself early, but he spent that time sucking up to the extreme right-wing and now he's suffering the consequences.
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« Reply #10104 on: September 23, 2012, 09:31:30 pm »
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So Obama is running 12-14 points ahead of the last two Presidents to lose re-election while within the margin of error of the last President to win re-election?

The dude is finished.

But Romney will blow this thing wide open in the debates, which he's known to be very good at!
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« Reply #10105 on: September 24, 2012, 09:27:09 am »
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Rasmussen Obama (National)

Approve 48%, u.

Disapprove 50%, u.

"Strongly Approve" is at 29%, -2.  "Strongly Disapprove" is at  41%, u.

Head to head is tied at 47/46 Obama, but with leaners 48/48.  On 10/1, Rasmussen will start including leaners in their head to head numbers.  http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll
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« Reply #10106 on: September 24, 2012, 12:25:28 pm »
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http://www.gallup.com/poll/124922/Presidential-Job-Approval-Center.aspx

Approve: 51%, u


Disapprove: 42%, -1

Head to head, Obama 48% (u), Romney 46% (u).

It looks like a lag on Gallup from the 47% remark.  Obama's approval rating was down for the last week, which probably doesn't include the results for the 47% remark.
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« Reply #10107 on: September 24, 2012, 02:21:57 pm »
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Gallup's approval numbers don't match up well with their head-to-head numbers at all.
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« Reply #10108 on: September 24, 2012, 07:04:42 pm »
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Romney needed a great summer (ie, horrible for everyone else) to make in-roads. The undecideds in this race are too low to wait until the last few weeks. He needed to define himself early, but he spent that time sucking up to the extreme right-wing and now he's suffering the consequences.

It's not all Romney's fault though. The summer of Bain really defined Romney in a negative way. People were saying the Obama was desperate to use these attacks but the truth is that it was a stroke of genius. The Obama Campaign really knows what it's doing, just like in the 2008 primaries and general election.
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« Reply #10109 on: September 25, 2012, 09:05:03 am »
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Rasmussen Obama (National)

Approve 48%, u.

Disapprove 51%, +1.

"Strongly Approve" is at 29%, -2.  "Strongly Disapprove" is at  43%, +1.

Head to head is 47/46, Obama, but with leaners 47/47.  On 10/1, Rasmussen will start including leaners in their head to head numbers.  http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll
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« Reply #10110 on: September 25, 2012, 12:16:02 pm »
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http://www.gallup.com/poll/124922/Presidential-Job-Approval-Center.aspx

Approve: 50%, -1


Disapprove: 43%, +1

Head to head, Obama 48% (u), Romney 45% (-1).

We've still got a lag with the 47% remark.
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« Reply #10111 on: September 26, 2012, 08:57:42 am »
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Rasmussen Obama (National)

Approve 48%, u.

Disapprove 51%, u.

"Strongly Approve" is at 26%, -1.  "Strongly Disapprove" is at  43%, u.

Watch the strongly approve number.  That is either a bad sample or some very solid movement.  The other numbers are holding.

Head to head is tied at 46%, with leaners, 48/46 Romney.


On 10/1, Rasmussen will start including leaners in their head to head numbers.  http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll
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« Reply #10112 on: September 26, 2012, 09:03:29 am »
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lol rasmussen
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« Reply #10113 on: September 26, 2012, 09:26:59 am »
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lol rasmussen

I'd be watch those Strongly Approve numbers and Gallup over the weekend.  Smiley
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« Reply #10114 on: September 26, 2012, 11:18:42 am »
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If that's what makes it possible for you to sleep at night.
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« Reply #10115 on: September 26, 2012, 11:27:38 am »
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lol rasmussen

I'd be watch those Strongly Approve numbers and Gallup over the weekend.  Smiley

Have fun watching your flawed outlier polls.
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« Reply #10116 on: September 26, 2012, 02:24:33 pm »
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http://www.gallup.com/poll/124922/Presidential-Job-Approval-Center.aspx

Approve: 51%, +1


Disapprove: 43%, u

Head to head, Obama 50% (+2), Romney 44% (-1).

We've still got a lag with the 47% remark.
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« Reply #10117 on: September 26, 2012, 02:28:01 pm »
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lol rasmussen

I'd be watch those Strongly Approve numbers and Gallup over the weekend.  Smiley

Have fun watching your flawed outlier polls.

Just saw the Quiniapiac ones ones on the polling board. 

While their might be a single bad sample, it is almost impossible to get longer term outliers on the tracking polls.
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« Reply #10118 on: September 26, 2012, 03:48:27 pm »
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Uh, no it's not. It's very possible. And Gallup and Ramussen are both good examples of it. Both polls have flawed sample weightings.

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We've still got a lag with the 47% remark.

Do you expect Romney's numbers to quickly rebound after the damage of the 47% remark? Because there's no evidence (besides Rasmussen) that this is happening. Obama's lead has only grown in the last few days.
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« Reply #10119 on: September 26, 2012, 05:16:17 pm »
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The World's Longest Lag.
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« Reply #10120 on: September 27, 2012, 12:03:52 am »
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Uh, no it's not. It's very possible. And Gallup and Ramussen are both good examples of it. Both polls have flawed sample weightings.

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We've still got a lag with the 47% remark.

A weighting problem is not an outlier.

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Do you expect Romney's numbers to quickly rebound after the damage of the 47% remark? Because there's no evidence (besides Rasmussen) that this is happening. Obama's lead has only grown in the last few days.

No, I expect it to rebound, because they were not a major component of the sample last week, when Romney's numbers went up.  They were not a major part of the sample.

As noted, the Rasmussen numbers went down when the comment came out.


Rasmussen Obama (National)

Approve 51%, +2.

Disapprove 48%, -2.

"Strongly Approve" is at 31%, +1.  "Strongly Disapprove" is at  40%, -2.


It could be tied to Romney's 47% comment.  Tracking shows 47%/45% Obama in the horse race poll.



Stick a fork in him. He's done.

I guess since the number's flipped, you think Obama is "done" now, right Lief?
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« Reply #10121 on: September 27, 2012, 08:51:14 am »
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Rasmussen Obama (National)

Approve 48%, u.

Disapprove 51%, u.

"Strongly Approve" is at 28%, +2.  "Strongly Disapprove" is at  42%, -1.

Head to head is tied at 46/46 Obama, but with leaners 48/48. 

The strongly approved numbers are still running lower and there appears to some erosion (2-3 points).

 On 10/1, Rasmussen will start including leaners in their head to head numbers.  http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll
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« Reply #10122 on: September 27, 2012, 08:57:11 am »
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Doesn't recovery from a major campaign gaffe have to be earned?  I don't think it goes away because it was a week ago.  Maybe if something had happened in the news (the Libya ambassador death ended the convention bounce), but there really hasn't been anything helpful to Romney hooking Obama.

The debate could kill this... next week. If he wins the debate that is,  otherwise it might be permanent.
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« Reply #10123 on: September 27, 2012, 09:22:54 am »
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Doesn't recovery from a major campaign gaffe have to be earned?  I don't think it goes away because it was a week ago.  Maybe if something had happened in the news (the Libya ambassador death ended the convention bounce), but there really hasn't been anything helpful to Romney hooking Obama.



No, it is internalized.  After the initial hype, people treat it as one piece of data.

The relations with the Islamic are a ongoing problem for Obama, because:

1.  There was more unrest after the apologies.

2.  The assassination of Stevens was a terrorist attack and it took the administration too long to admit it.  It was just probably spin or muddle, but people are saying "conspiracy."

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« Reply #10124 on: September 27, 2012, 10:34:02 am »
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The relations with the Islamic are a ongoing problem for Obama, because:

1.  There was more unrest after the apologies.

All of the unrest was after the so-called 'apologies'. The so-called 'apologies' came before there was much unrest. Also, 'Islamic' isn't a noun.

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2.  The assassination of Stevens was a terrorist attack and it took the administration too long to admit it.  It was just probably spin or muddle, but people are saying "conspiracy."

Who are these people and why are they not showing up in the polls showing that Obama has a considerable lead on foreign policy? For that matter, why is none of this claim of yours showing up in the polls?
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