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Topic: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread (Read 600953 times)
J. J.
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Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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Reply #8875 on:
September 08, 2011, 09:51:41 pm »
Quote from: krazen1211 on September 08, 2011, 09:41:27 pm
PPP
Obama trails Palin by 14 with independents in North Carolina, that's when you know you're having a bad month.
8 hours ago
Do you have a link?
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Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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J.J., I wanted to congratulate you on your assignment "A Typical Day In My Life". I think you did a superb job with it. So good that I think I'll share it with everyone else.
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Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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Quote from: The Professor on September 08, 2011, 10:55:00 pm
J.J., I wanted to congratulate you on your assignment "A Typical Day In My Life". I think you did a superb job with it. So good that I think I'll share it with everyone else.
That. Is. BRILLIANT!
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Quote from: The Professor on September 08, 2011, 10:55:00 pm
J.J., I wanted to congratulate you on your assignment "A Typical Day In My Life". I think you did a superb job with it. So good that I think I'll share it with everyone else.
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Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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Quote from: The Professor on September 08, 2011, 10:55:00 pm
J.J., I wanted to congratulate you on your assignment "A Typical Day In My Life". I think you did a superb job with it. So good that I think I'll share it with everyone else.
On a day we have flooding.
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J. J.
"Actually, .. now that you mention it...."
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"Every government are parliaments of whores.
The trouble is, in a democracy the whores are us." - P. J. O'Rourke
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Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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September 09, 2011, 08:36:51 am »
Rasmussen Obama (National)
Approve 42, -1.
Disapprove 56%, u.
"Strongly Approve" is at 19%, -1. "Strongly Disapprove" is at 43%, +1.
Pre-speech numbers, obviously.
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Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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Reply #8880 on:
September 09, 2011, 12:08:03 pm »
Quote from: J. J. on September 08, 2011, 09:51:41 pm
Quote from: krazen1211 on September 08, 2011, 09:41:27 pm
PPP
Obama trails Palin by 14 with independents in North Carolina, that's when you know you're having a bad month.
8 hours ago
Do you have a link?
http://twitter.com/#
!/ppppolls
Electability argument on its head at least in one state: Perry fav with NC independents is 44/34, Romney's is 35/50
Romney favorability with North Carolina Republicans: 39/40. His negatives with party base really seem to be on the rise.
Perry should be a better candidate in North Carolina.
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Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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September 09, 2011, 12:31:56 pm »
North Carolina Independents are very GOP-leaning anyway. McCain won them 60-39.
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pbrower2a
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Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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Reply #8882 on:
September 09, 2011, 02:03:22 pm »
North Carolina Survey Results
Quote
Q1 Do you approve or disapprove of President
Barack Obama’s job performance?
Approve .......................................................... 43%
Disapprove...................................................... 53%
Not sure .......................................................... 4%
Q7 If the candidates for President next year were
Democrat Barack Obama and Republican
Michele Bachmann, who would you vote for?
Barack Obama................................................ 47%
Michele Bachmann ......................................... 45%
Undecided....................................................... 8%
Q8 If the candidates for President next year were
Democrat Barack Obama and Republican
Newt Gingrich, who would you vote for?
Barack Obama................................................ 48%
Newt Gingrich ................................................. 43%
Undecided....................................................... 9%
Q9 If the candidates for President next year were
Democrat Barack Obama and Republican
Sarah Palin, who would you vote for?
Barack Obama................................................ 49%
Sarah Palin ..................................................... 42%
Undecided....................................................... 9%
Q10 If the candidates for President next year were
Democrat Barack Obama and Republican Rick
Perry, who would you vote for?
Barack Obama................................................ 46%
Rick Perry ....................................................... 46%
Undecided....................................................... 8%
Q11 If the candidates for President next year were
Democrat Barack Obama and Republican Mitt
Romney, who would you vote for?
Barack Obama................................................ 45%
Mitt Romney.................................................... 44%
Undecided....................................................... 11%
Poor approval rating, but President Obama apparently beats everyone but Perry (whom he ties) this time. Note that this comes before the "Ponzi scheme" description of Social Security. This model does not allow me to anticipate the consequences of a sudden incidence of "foot-in-the-mouth disease".
I am showing the results of a poll for Alabama (it is a favorability and not an approval poll that shows favorability in the high 30s.. I doubt that anyone will call me on my estimate that favorability in such an incidence is close enough to approval in this zone. President Obama loses to every Republican shown, and I doubt that anyone would have a problem with a guess that the Obama vote in Alabama will be effectively the percentage of the African-American vote. Bachmann isn't included. President Obama would lose the state by roughly 20% to either Perry or Romney, which suggests an approval rating at or below 40%. Alabama will go to the President only in a 45-state landslide.
Key:
<40% with Disapproval Higher: 40% Orange (50% if 60%-69% disapproval)
;
90% red if >70%
40-42% with Disapproval Higher: 50% Yellow
43% to 45% with Disapproval Higher: 40% Yellow
46-49% with Disapproval Higher: 30% Yellow
<50% with Approval Equal: 10% Yellow (really white)
<50% Approval greater: 20% Green
50-55%: 40% Green
56-59%: 60% Green
60%+: 80% Green
Months (All polls are from 2011):
A - January G - July
B - February H - August
C - March I - September
D - April J - October
E - May K - November
F - June L - December
S - suspect poll (examples for such a qualification: strange crosstabs, likely inversion of the report (for inversions, only for polls above 55% or below 45%... let's say Vermont 35% approval or Oklahoma 65% approval), or more than 10% undecided.
Anyone who suggests that a poll is suspect must explain why it is suspect.
Partisan polls and polls for special interests (trade associations, labor unions, ethnic associations) are excluded.
Z- no recent poll
Or here:
MY CURRENT PREDICTION OF THE 2012 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION
(before any campaigning begins in earnest):
assuming no significant changes before early 2012 -- snicker, snicker!
deep red Obama 10% margin or greater
63
medium red Obama, 5-9.9% margin
80
pale red Obama, margin under 5%
89
white too close to call (margin 1% or less)
63
pale blue Republican under 5%
73
medium blue Republican 5-9.9% margin
41
deep blue Republican over 10%
26
44% approval is roughly the break-even point (50/50) for an incumbent's win. I add 6% for approval between 40% and 45%, 5% at 46% or 47%, 4% between 48% and 50%, 3% for 51%, 2% for 52% or 53%, 1% for 54% and nothing above 55% or below 40% for an estimate of the vote.
This model applies only to incumbents, who have plenty of advantages but not enough to rescue an unqualified failure.
Here's the rationale:
http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2010/02/myth-of-incumbent-50-rule.html
...and I am less charitable to an incumbent President than is Nate Silver.
But --
I have added a yellow category for states in which President Obama defeats all recognized major GOP nominees (so far Huckabee, Romney, Gingrich, Palin, and where available, Thune, Daniels, Christie, and Pawlenty). This will be a yellow category supplanting those in pale blue or and white.
I am also adding a green category for those states that would otherwise be in white,
pale pink
, or pale blue
This can be rescinded as one of the potential nominees drops out formally or is rendered irrelevant in primaries. I am also adding a deep green color for states in which only the 'right' nominee has a chance. So far I will label that as "H" for Huckabee or else Obama, "R" for Romney or else Obama, or other initials as appropriate for anyone else (Gingrich? Daniels? Thune?) should such cases emerge. A tan color is used for a tie.
deep red Obama 10% margin or greater
54
medium red Obama, 5-9.9% margin
104
pale red Obama, margin under 5%
102
white too close to call (margin 1% or less)
18
yellow close, but Obama wins against any major Republican candidate
49
orange close, but Obama loses against any major Republican candidate
3
Obama wins against all but Romney
24
Obama ties one candidate, but defeats everyone else 41
close, but Obama wins against
someone
other than Romney
101
pale blue Republican under 5%
12
medium blue Republican 5-9.9% margin
9
deep blue Republican over 10%
35
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J. J.
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Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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September 09, 2011, 02:42:05 pm »
http://www.gallup.com/poll/124922/Presidential-Job-Approval-Center.aspx
Gallup, meh:
Approve: 43%, -1.
Disapprove: 49%, -1.
These numbers are now showing a very good
trend
for Obama. He is off his low. It is possible that he'll sag at a later point, but if the numbers hold through Sunday, he has recovered. (Paris doesn't fall.)
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J. J.
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Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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Reply #8884 on:
September 09, 2011, 06:05:26 pm »
Quote from: krazen1211 on September 09, 2011, 12:08:03 pm
Quote from: J. J. on September 08, 2011, 09:51:41 pm
Quote from: krazen1211 on September 08, 2011, 09:41:27 pm
PPP
Obama trails Palin by 14 with independents in North Carolina, that's when you know you're having a bad month.
8 hours ago
Do you have a link?
http://twitter.com/#
!/ppppolls
Electability argument on its head at least in one state: Perry fav with NC independents is 44/34, Romney's is 35/50
Romney favorability with North Carolina Republicans: 39/40. His negatives with party base really seem to be on the rise.
Perry should be a better candidate in North Carolina.
Stick that dumbass Perry on the bottom of the ticket and hope he never becomes president. Problem solved.
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Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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Reply #8885 on:
September 09, 2011, 10:13:15 pm »
Quote from: Politico on September 09, 2011, 06:05:26 pm
Quote from: krazen1211 on September 09, 2011, 12:08:03 pm
Quote from: J. J. on September 08, 2011, 09:51:41 pm
Quote from: krazen1211 on September 08, 2011, 09:41:27 pm
PPP
Obama trails Palin by 14 with independents in North Carolina, that's when you know you're having a bad month.
8 hours ago
Do you have a link?
http://twitter.com/#
!/ppppolls
Electability argument on its head at least in one state: Perry fav with NC independents is 44/34, Romney's is 35/50
Romney favorability with North Carolina Republicans: 39/40. His negatives with party base really seem to be on the rise.
Perry should be a better candidate in North Carolina.
Stick that dumbass Perry
in a roadside gas station
and hope he never becomes president. Problem solved.
Fixed.
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J. J.
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Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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Reply #8886 on:
September 10, 2011, 09:55:31 am »
Rasmussen Obama (National)
Approve 42, u.
Disapprove 55%, -1.
"Strongly Approve" is at 20%, +1. "Strongly Disapprove" is at 43%, u.
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J. J.
"Actually, .. now that you mention it...."
- Londo Molari
"Every government are parliaments of whores.
The trouble is, in a democracy the whores are us." - P. J. O'Rourke
"Wa sala, wa lala."
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J. J.
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Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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Reply #8887 on:
September 11, 2011, 09:19:46 am »
Rasmussen Obama (National)
Approve 42, u.
Disapprove 55%, u.
"Strongly Approve" is at 21%, +1. "Strongly Disapprove" is at 43%, u.
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J. J.
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The trouble is, in a democracy the whores are us." - P. J. O'Rourke
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Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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Reply #8888 on:
September 11, 2011, 12:53:51 pm »
Gallup:
42-48 (-1, nc)
No speech bump so far.
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J. J.
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Reply #8889 on:
September 11, 2011, 03:09:41 pm »
Quote from: Tender Branson on September 11, 2011, 12:53:51 pm
Gallup:
42-48 (-1, nc)
No speech bump so far.
But they have turned off the lows. Obama might slump again, but, for now, he's improving.
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J. J.
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The trouble is, in a democracy the whores are us." - P. J. O'Rourke
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September 12, 2011, 11:53:52 am »
Rasmussen Obama (National)
Approve 44, +2.
Disapprove 55%, u.
"Strongly Approve" is at 22%, +2. "Strongly Disapprove" is at 42%, -1.
Possibly some movement toward Obama.
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J. J.
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The trouble is, in a democracy the whores are us." - P. J. O'Rourke
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Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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Quote from: The Professor on September 08, 2011, 10:55:00 pm
J.J., I wanted to congratulate you on your assignment "A Typical Day In My Life". I think you did a superb job with it. So good that I think I'll share it with everyone else.
Wait hold on I'm still laughing at this.
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Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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PPP:
43% Approve
53% Disapprove
Public Policy Polling, 1000 Registered Voters, MoE 3.1%, September 8, 2011 - September 11, 2011.
http://dailykos.com/weeklypolling/2011/9/8
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Rasmussen Obama (National)
Approve 45, +1.
Disapprove 54%, -1.
"Strongly Approve" is at 22%, u. "Strongly Disapprove" is at 41%, -1.
Possibly some movement toward Obama, again. Either that or statistical noise.
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J. J.
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The trouble is, in a democracy the whores are us." - P. J. O'Rourke
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Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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Reply #8894 on:
September 13, 2011, 09:01:26 pm »
The PPP and Rasmussen Polls are very close.
Something's wrong.
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September 14, 2011, 05:56:33 am »
California (Field):
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September 14, 2011, 07:24:04 am »
Bloomberg/Selzer:
45% Approve
49% Disapprove
http://media.bloomberg.com/bb/avfile/rcBTdobXyUWg
CNN/ORC:
43% Approve
55% Disapprove
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/09/13/cnn-poll-president-gets-no-bounce-from-speech-but-disapproval-rating-peaks
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Quote from: Tender Branson on September 14, 2011, 05:56:33 am
California (Field):
Those CA numbers are starting to be brutal.
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J. J.
"Actually, .. now that you mention it...."
- Londo Molari
"Every government are parliaments of whores.
The trouble is, in a democracy the whores are us." - P. J. O'Rourke
"Wa sala, wa lala."
(Zulu for, "You snooze, you lose.")
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Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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Reply #8898 on:
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Quote from: J. J. on September 14, 2011, 07:25:27 am
Those CA numbers are starting to be brutal.
I guess many California Democrats are disapproving right now because they think Obama is not liberal enough. But during the 2012 campaign this will change and they will never vote for someone like Rick Perry.
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Quote from: Tender Branson on September 14, 2011, 07:36:53 am
Quote from: J. J. on September 14, 2011, 07:25:27 am
Those CA numbers are starting to be brutal.
I guess many California Democrats are disapproving right now because they think Obama is not liberal enough. But during the 2012 campaign this will change and they will never vote for someone like Rick Perry.
I think it is the unemployment rate, which is 12%.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/19/california-unemployment-rate-july-2011_n_931989.html
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- Londo Molari
"Every government are parliaments of whores.
The trouble is, in a democracy the whores are us." - P. J. O'Rourke
"Wa sala, wa lala."
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