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Topic: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread (Read 601010 times)
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Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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Reply #9200 on:
December 03, 2011, 07:21:24 pm »
Quote from: pbrower2a on December 03, 2011, 04:39:49 pm
Quote from: Skill and Chance on December 03, 2011, 12:37:31 pm
Quote from: CJK on December 03, 2011, 10:34:05 am
Obama Average Approval Rating November 2011 (Gallup)
43% Approve
49% Disapprove
Trends for comparison:
Roosevelt: 58/37 (November 1939)
Truman: 54/33 (November 1947) AND 23/61 (November 1951)
Eisenhower: 78/13 (November 1955)
Kennedy: 58/30 (November 1963)
Johnson: 42/46 (November 1967)
Nixon: 49/37 (November 1971)
Ford: 43/45 (November 1975)
Carter: 35/52 (November 1979)
Reagan: 53/37 (November 1983)
Bush I: 55/37 (November 1991)
Clinton: 52/41 (November 1995)
Bush II: 52/45 (November 2003)
Truman was popular in the fall of 47?! When did he start cratering to fall into the 30's by the summer of 48?
The Korean War. I'm going to guess that as the front line sagged southward so did President Truman's approval rating. The war also got increasingly unpopular as it dragged on.
Goldmined.
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Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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December 04, 2011, 06:06:41 am »
Rasmussen Obama (National)
Approve 45%, +2.
Disapprove 54%, -1.
"Strongly Approve" is at 21%, +1. "Strongly Disapprove" is at 43%, -1.
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Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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December 04, 2011, 06:08:14 am »
Gallup Daily:
http://www.gallup.com/poll/124922/Presidential-Job-Approval-Center.aspx
Approve: 41%, -1.
Disapprove: 51%, +1.
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Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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December 04, 2011, 09:51:41 am »
Rasmussen Obama (National)
Approve 46%, +1.
Disapprove 52%, -2.
"Strongly Approve" is at 21%, u. "Strongly Disapprove" is at 40%, -3.
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"Actually, .. now that you mention it...."
- Londo Molari
"Every government are parliaments of whores.
The trouble is, in a democracy the whores are us." - P. J. O'Rourke
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Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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December 04, 2011, 01:49:28 pm »
Gallup Daily:
http://www.gallup.com/poll/124922/Presidential-Job-Approval-Center.aspx
Approve: 44%, +3.
Disapprove: 49%, -2.
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J. J.
"Actually, .. now that you mention it...."
- Londo Molari
"Every government are parliaments of whores.
The trouble is, in a democracy the whores are us." - P. J. O'Rourke
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Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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December 05, 2011, 02:50:21 pm »
Rasmussen Obama (National)
Approve 46%, u.
Disapprove 53%, +1.
"Strongly Approve" is at 20%, -1. "Strongly Disapprove" is at 39%, -1.
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J. J.
"Actually, .. now that you mention it...."
- Londo Molari
"Every government are parliaments of whores.
The trouble is, in a democracy the whores are us." - P. J. O'Rourke
"Wa sala, wa lala."
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Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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December 05, 2011, 02:52:13 pm »
Gallup Daily:
http://www.gallup.com/poll/124922/Presidential-Job-Approval-Center.aspx
Approve: 43%, -1.
Disapprove: 49%, u.
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J. J.
"Actually, .. now that you mention it...."
- Londo Molari
"Every government are parliaments of whores.
The trouble is, in a democracy the whores are us." - P. J. O'Rourke
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Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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December 06, 2011, 10:43:34 am »
Rasmussen Obama (National)
Approve 45%, -1.
Disapprove 54%, +1.
"Strongly Approve" is at 21%, +1. "Strongly Disapprove" is at 40%, +1.
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J. J.
"Actually, .. now that you mention it...."
- Londo Molari
"Every government are parliaments of whores.
The trouble is, in a democracy the whores are us." - P. J. O'Rourke
"Wa sala, wa lala."
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Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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December 06, 2011, 02:40:33 pm »
Gallup Daily:
http://www.gallup.com/poll/124922/Presidential-Job-Approval-Center.aspx
Approve: 41%, -2.
Disapprove: 51%, +2.
If consistent, it is getting close to that point of no return.
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"Actually, .. now that you mention it...."
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The trouble is, in a democracy the whores are us." - P. J. O'Rourke
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Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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December 06, 2011, 03:37:10 pm »
Quote from: J. J. on December 06, 2011, 02:40:33 pm
Gallup Daily:
http://www.gallup.com/poll/124922/Presidential-Job-Approval-Center.aspx
Approve: 41%, -2.
Disapprove: 51%, +2.
If consistent, it is getting close to that point of no return.
But with Gallup - nothing is consistent
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Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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December 06, 2011, 03:43:28 pm »
A bump is coming. Get ready for Happy New Year. War is over.
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Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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Reply #9211 on:
December 06, 2011, 07:47:08 pm »
Quote from: memphis on December 06, 2011, 03:43:28 pm
A bump is coming. Get ready for Happy New Year. War is over.
If you want it.
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Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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Reply #9212 on:
December 07, 2011, 10:10:08 am »
Rasmussen Obama (National)
Approve 45%, u.
Disapprove 54%, u.
"Strongly Approve" is at 21%, u. "Strongly Disapprove" is at 40%, u.
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"Actually, .. now that you mention it...."
- Londo Molari
"Every government are parliaments of whores.
The trouble is, in a democracy the whores are us." - P. J. O'Rourke
"Wa sala, wa lala."
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Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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Reply #9213 on:
December 07, 2011, 10:13:17 am »
Quote from: Fmr. President Polnut on December 06, 2011, 03:37:10 pm
But with Gallup - nothing is consistent
There is basically a point on Gallup where an incumbent president's numbers cannot recover. It is about 40% or lower in the first year, on the weekly numbers. Obama is not there.
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Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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Reply #9214 on:
December 07, 2011, 12:23:56 pm »
Quote from: J. J. on December 07, 2011, 10:13:17 am
Quote from: Fmr. President Polnut on December 06, 2011, 03:37:10 pm
But with Gallup - nothing is consistent
There is basically a point on Gallup where an incumbent president's numbers cannot recover. It is about 40% or lower in the first year, on the weekly numbers. Obama is not there.
Clinton was below 40% in June of '93.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/116584/presidential-approval-ratings-bill-clinton.aspx
The first year doesn't mean much. That's why it's the time for bold action. The Presidency is a ticking clock and approval gets more important every minute.
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Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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Reply #9215 on:
December 07, 2011, 07:12:16 pm »
Gallup Daily:
http://www.gallup.com/poll/124922/Presidential-Job-Approval-Center.aspx
Approve: 41%, u.
Disapprove: 51%, u.
If consistent, it is getting close to that point of no return.
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J. J.
"Actually, .. now that you mention it...."
- Londo Molari
"Every government are parliaments of whores.
The trouble is, in a democracy the whores are us." - P. J. O'Rourke
"Wa sala, wa lala."
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Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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Reply #9216 on:
December 07, 2011, 07:14:04 pm »
Quote from: memphis on December 07, 2011, 12:23:56 pm
Quote from: J. J. on December 07, 2011, 10:13:17 am
Quote from: Fmr. President Polnut on December 06, 2011, 03:37:10 pm
But with Gallup - nothing is consistent
There is basically a point on Gallup where an incumbent president's numbers cannot recover. It is about 40% or lower in the first year, on the weekly numbers. Obama is not there.
Clinton was below 40% in June of '93.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/116584/presidential-approval-ratings-bill-clinton.aspx
The first year doesn't mean much. That's why it's the time for bold action. The Presidency is a ticking clock and approval gets more important every minute.
June of 1993 was
not
December of 1995. Reagan was actually in the 30's in late 1982 early 1983. He was around 50% at this point.
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J. J.
"Actually, .. now that you mention it...."
- Londo Molari
"Every government are parliaments of whores.
The trouble is, in a democracy the whores are us." - P. J. O'Rourke
"Wa sala, wa lala."
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Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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Reply #9217 on:
December 08, 2011, 10:41:20 am »
Rasmussen Obama (National)
Approve 45%, u.
Disapprove 55%, +1.
"Strongly Approve" is at 22%, +1. "Strongly Disapprove" is at 41%, +1.
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J. J.
"Actually, .. now that you mention it...."
- Londo Molari
"Every government are parliaments of whores.
The trouble is, in a democracy the whores are us." - P. J. O'Rourke
"Wa sala, wa lala."
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Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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Reply #9218 on:
December 08, 2011, 01:55:13 pm »
Gallup Daily:
http://www.gallup.com/poll/124922/Presidential-Job-Approval-Center.aspx
Approve: 42%, +1.
Disapprove: 50%, -1.
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J. J.
"Actually, .. now that you mention it...."
- Londo Molari
"Every government are parliaments of whores.
The trouble is, in a democracy the whores are us." - P. J. O'Rourke
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Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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Reply #9219 on:
December 08, 2011, 01:59:46 pm »
Quote from: J. J. on December 07, 2011, 07:14:04 pm
Quote from: memphis on December 07, 2011, 12:23:56 pm
Quote from: J. J. on December 07, 2011, 10:13:17 am
Quote from: Fmr. President Polnut on December 06, 2011, 03:37:10 pm
But with Gallup - nothing is consistent
There is basically a point on Gallup where an incumbent president's numbers cannot recover. It is about 40% or lower in the first year, on the weekly numbers. Obama is not there.
Clinton was below 40% in June of '93.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/116584/presidential-approval-ratings-bill-clinton.aspx
The first year doesn't mean much. That's why it's the time for bold action. The Presidency is a ticking clock and approval gets more important every minute.
June of 1993 was
not
December of 1995. Reagan was actually in the 30's in late 1982 early 1983. He was around 50% at this point.
You said first year. Did you mean last year?
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Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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Reply #9220 on:
December 08, 2011, 03:32:45 pm »
Quote from: memphis on December 08, 2011, 01:59:46 pm
Quote from: J. J. on December 07, 2011, 07:14:04 pm
Quote from: memphis on December 07, 2011, 12:23:56 pm
Quote from: J. J. on December 07, 2011, 10:13:17 am
Quote from: Fmr. President Polnut on December 06, 2011, 03:37:10 pm
But with Gallup - nothing is consistent
There is basically a point on Gallup where an incumbent president's numbers cannot recover. It is about 40% or lower in the first year, on the weekly numbers. Obama is not there.
Clinton was below 40% in June of '93.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/116584/presidential-approval-ratings-bill-clinton.aspx
The first year doesn't mean much. That's why it's the time for bold action. The Presidency is a ticking clock and approval gets more important every minute.
June of 1993 was
not
December of 1995. Reagan was actually in the 30's in late 1982 early 1983. He was around 50% at this point.
You said first year. Did you mean last year?
Yes, I look at the last 18 months and the last 12 months.
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J. J.
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Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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Reply #9221 on:
December 08, 2011, 03:57:20 pm »
Quote from: J. J. on December 08, 2011, 03:32:45 pm
Quote from: memphis on December 08, 2011, 01:59:46 pm
Quote from: J. J. on December 07, 2011, 07:14:04 pm
Quote from: memphis on December 07, 2011, 12:23:56 pm
Quote from: J. J. on December 07, 2011, 10:13:17 am
Quote from: Fmr. President Polnut on December 06, 2011, 03:37:10 pm
But with Gallup - nothing is consistent
There is basically a point on Gallup where an incumbent president's numbers cannot recover. It is about 40% or lower in the first year, on the weekly numbers. Obama is not there.
Clinton was below 40% in June of '93.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/116584/presidential-approval-ratings-bill-clinton.aspx
The first year doesn't mean much. That's why it's the time for bold action. The Presidency is a ticking clock and approval gets more important every minute.
June of 1993 was
not
December of 1995. Reagan was actually in the 30's in late 1982 early 1983. He was around 50% at this point.
You said first year. Did you mean last year?
Yes, I look at the last 18 months and the last 12 months.
In that case, the counter example is Truman. Below 40% in the 1948, but he still won re-election despite third party runs by both his liberal flank and the Dixiecrat wing of the party.
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Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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December 08, 2011, 07:29:52 pm »
Quote from: memphis on December 08, 2011, 03:57:20 pm
In that case, the counter example is Truman. Below 40% in the 1948, but he still won re-election despite third party runs by both his liberal flank and the Dixiecrat wing of the party.
Truman is a counter example unlikely to ever be repeated. Everyone was so sure Dewey that Dewey was mouthing platitudes instead of stump speeches for the last month or so, and there was no polling to tell him otherwise.
If Dewey had even run a marginal campaign at the end, he could have easily have gotten at least this:
Which would have given Dewey a narrow 267 EV win (266 were needed in 1948) tho Truman would have still won in the PV.
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Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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Reply #9223 on:
December 09, 2011, 09:41:09 am »
Rasmussen Obama (National)
Approve 44%, -1.
Disapprove 55%, u.
"Strongly Approve" is at 23%, +1. "Strongly Disapprove" is at 42%, +1.
There has been a slight upswing in Strongly Approve, but is not reflected in the rest of his numbers. It could indicate that his base is coming back.
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Re: The Official Obama Approval Ratings Thread
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Reply #9224 on:
December 09, 2011, 11:17:34 am »
Quote from: True Federalist on December 08, 2011, 07:29:52 pm
Truman is a counter example unlikely to ever be repeated. Everyone was so sure Dewey that Dewey was mouthing platitudes instead of stump speeches for the last month or so, and there was no polling to tell him otherwise.
Which would have given Dewey a narrow 267 EV win (266 were needed in 1948) tho Truman would have still won in the PV.
I think that there was a noticeable change post Watergate. Both Eisenhower and LBJ had a lower vote percentage that their "low during the year before, (LYB)" approval numbers on Gallup. They had 68% and 73% LYB, respectively. Truman gained about 12 points on his LYB. Nixon about 11 points.
The LYB gain, with rounding, was since then as follows:
Ford: 9 points
Carter: 9 points
Reagan: 8 points
GHWB: 8 points
Clinton: 7 points
GWB: 5 points
Obama is at 42% on the weekly Gallup. He improves at just above average with any other president, he wins re-election. He could, obviously, be in better shape, but it is
still
winnable.
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"Actually, .. now that you mention it...."
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The trouble is, in a democracy the whores are us." - P. J. O'Rourke
"Wa sala, wa lala."
(Zulu for, "You snooze, you lose.")
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