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Question: Opinion of China
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« on: January 26, 2009, 04:17:38 PM »


Freedom Country (FC) vs. Horrible Country (HC).

Day 1: Cape Verde: 88.9% positive
Day 2: Namibia: 81.3% positive
Day 3: San Marino: 94.1% positive
Day 4: Slovakia: 85.7% positive
Day 5: Monaco: 58.3% negative
Day 6: Cuba: 50.0% tie
Day 7: Sweden: 73.9% positive
Day 8: Mozambique: 55.6% negative
Day 9: Belarus: 88.5% negative
Day 10: Romania: 83.3% positive
Day 11: Turkmenistan: 94.7% negative
Day 12: Russia: 65.7% negative
Day 13: Saudi Arabia: 100.0% negative
Day 14: Brazil: 83.3% positive
Day 15: Jordan: 68.3% positive
Day 16: Liechtenstein: 56.5% positive
Day 17: Israel: 50.0% tie
Day 18: El Salvador: 62.5% positive
Day 19: Mexico: 76.2% positive
Day 20: Ghana: 88.2% positive
Day 21: Germany: 96.3% positive
Day 22: Italy: 69% positive
Day 23: Greece: 73.1% positive
Day 24: Malta: 88.9% positive 18 votes
Day 25: India: 76% positive 25 votes
Day 26: Thailand: 58.8% positive 17 votes
Day 27: France: 70.6% positive 34 votes
Day 28: Venezuela: 55.6% positive 18 votes

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« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2009, 04:49:42 PM »

Quite a number of negative aspects, yet unlike most oligarchies, this one strikes me as being truly interested in improving the well-being of its subjects, provided they don't try to undermine the authority of the party, or launch independence movements.  Clearly superior to countries such as Russia, Venezuela, Singapore, Zimbabwe, Belarus, etc.  They aren't quite in the Freedom Country camp but they are on the way there and if they can avoid any significant economic turmoil in the next few decades as China tries to develop its economy, it is on course to peacefully becoming a Freedom Country, quite unlike the countries I mentioned earlier, so I hesitate to call them a Horrible Country either.  In the end, for its potential, FC, but its close enough that for people who wish to focus on the past instad of eh future, I can understand a HC vote.
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« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2009, 05:00:38 PM »

Let's save Naso the trouble...as I'm eating wonton soup...

"THEY HAVE GREAT FOOD!"
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« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2009, 05:46:28 PM »

voted HC, but they have been one of the great civilizations in world histoy.
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« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2009, 05:58:11 PM »

They could be a FC in the future, but for now, HC.
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« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2009, 07:07:08 PM »

Quite a number of negative aspects, yet unlike most oligarchies, this one strikes me as being truly interested in improving the well-being of its subjects, provided they don't try to undermine the authority of the party, or launch independence movements.

Yeah, the working conditions, and severe repression are all in the name of improvement.

Clearly superior to countries such as Russia, Venezuela, Singapore, Zimbabwe, Belarus, etc....

Clearly superior to Russia? I very much doubt it.

China, because of it's government, is shít.
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« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2009, 07:09:28 PM »

FC nation but a horrible state
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« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2009, 08:09:37 PM »

HC on so many levels. It's people live in squalor and lack many rights taken for granted in the United States. Media is strictly controlled and censored. Rural peasants are treated like disposable subjects. Labor rights are scant. Not to mention the likelihood that they cannot actually sustain growth at this rate and the future of the country looks grim when their economic machine begins to deteriorate.
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« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2009, 08:17:35 PM »

HC on so many levels. It's people live in squalor and lack many rights taken for granted in the United States. Media is strictly controlled and censored. Rural peasants are treated like disposable subjects. Labor rights are scant. Not to mention the likelihood that they cannot actually sustain growth at this rate and the future of the country looks grim when their economic machine begins to deteriorate.

institutions can work wonders when they keep a permanent underclass of several hundred million people.
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« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2009, 08:54:38 PM »

Quite a number of negative aspects, yet unlike most oligarchies, this one strikes me as being truly interested in improving the well-being of its subjects, provided they don't try to undermine the authority of the party, or launch independence movements.

Yeah, the working conditions, and severe repression are all in the name of improvement.

For the average Chinese person, they are a considerable improvement over what was available to them twenty-five years ago, fifty years ago, or one hundred years ago.  That's not to say that there aren't still considerable improvements for China to make, but unlike countries such as Russia, I'm fairly confident that it will continue to make them.

Clearly superior to countries such as Russia, Venezuela, Singapore, Zimbabwe, Belarus, etc....

Clearly superior to Russia? I very much doubt it.

China, because of it's government, is shít.

Yes.  Superior to Russia.  The Chinese have gotten past the stage of believing in the cult of personality.  Tsar Vladimir I Putin, like the leaders of all the countries I mentioned above, believes that he can maintain power without having to worry about how his policies affect the material circumstances of his subjects. China's rulers are under no such delusion.
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« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2009, 10:53:35 PM »

They need to consume more, and thus reduce their trade deficit with the world. Unfortunately, this is unlikely to happen.

Also it's not clear whether ther world has enough natural resources to sustain a fully industrialized China.
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« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2009, 11:06:43 PM »

HC on so many levels. It's people live in squalor and lack many rights taken for granted in the United States. Media is strictly controlled and censored. Rural peasants are treated like disposable subjects. Labor rights are scant. Not to mention the likelihood that they cannot actually sustain growth at this rate and the future of the country looks grim when their economic machine begins to deteriorate.
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« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2009, 12:19:52 AM »

Which China?  The PRC?  One of the worst places on earth.  Taiwan? FC.
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« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2009, 12:25:17 AM »

Which China?  The PRC?  One of the worst places on earth.  Taiwan? FC.

Yes specificity would help. Assuming that it is the PRC, it is a horrible country with a great culture and people. It's too bad there are so many flaws and degradation of human rights.
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« Reply #14 on: January 27, 2009, 12:41:21 AM »

It looks to me like Venezuela is 55% unfavorable, not favorable.
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« Reply #15 on: January 27, 2009, 04:14:31 AM »

It looks to me like Venezuela is 55% unfavorable, not favorable.

Yep !
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