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Question: Can you be Christian and Favor Death Penalty?
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minionofmidas
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« on: September 28, 2004, 12:28:11 PM »

But, jmf, the authorities referred to in all your quotes are non Christian!
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minionofmidas
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« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2004, 07:15:37 AM »

But, jmf, the authorities referred to in all your quotes are non Christian!

Most importantly, by claiming these "agents of God" who execute wrongdoers can not be Christians because the death penalty is sinful, you're basically saying that God has authorized and commissioned non-Christians to commit sin.

Obviously, such logic is flawed and contrary to the rest of scripture.

I was viewing this more from a historical, rather than logical, perspective. Christians, at the time these letters were written, were living in midst of a nonchristian society. Obeying its laws, which included the Deaht Penalty, strikes me as merely a sane course.
When Jesus had the power to prevent an execution, to be committed by his own people, he did so, at great personal risk to himself (that woman who was supposed to be stoned).
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minionofmidas
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« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2004, 05:19:58 AM »

When Jesus had the power to prevent an execution, to be committed by his own people, he did so, at great personal risk to himself (that woman who was supposed to be stoned).

That execution was based on the moral condemnation of an individual who had been caught committing fornication.  It was a condemnation based on immoral activity, not criminal activity.
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It was based on Jewish common law of the time.
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minionofmidas
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« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2004, 10:31:19 AM »

It was based on Jewish common law of the time.

Actually, the "Jewish common law" had the scepter ALREADY passing to Jesus - the Jews no longer had the authority to put anyone to death.

Gen 49:10 "The scepter will not depart from Judah, until he comes to whom it belongs."
Er...you'll have to explain this a bit further...but it doesn't look very convincing to me till now...
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minionofmidas
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« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2004, 01:24:50 PM »


Actually, the "Jewish common law" had the scepter ALREADY passing to Jesus - the Jews no longer had the authority to put anyone to death.

Gen 49:10 "The scepter will not depart from Judah, until he comes to whom it belongs."
Er...you'll have to explain this a bit further...but it doesn't look very convincing to me till now...

The scepter (authority) had already been passed to Jesus.
So, that would explain why he had the tight to stop the execution based on someone else's verdict, but not why he didn't then hand it out himself.
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