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Question: Should government fund religious charities?
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Lean Yes
 
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Lean No
 
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« on: February 02, 2009, 09:05:22 PM »

1Women in the Military83.3; 5.6; 11.1; 0.0; 0.0
9Legalize Prostitution73.1; 11.5; 0.0; 3.8; 11.5
6Allow Gay Marriage75.9; 6.9; 0.0; 0.0; 17.2
4Free Trade Expansion41.7; 25.0; 2.8; 11.1; 19.4
10Legalize Selling Human Body Parts44.0; 16.0; 0.0; 8.0; 32.0
5Legalize Hard Drugs31.3; 28.1; 6.3; 9.4; 25.0
15Campaign Finance Reform40.6; 15.6; 3.1; 6.3; 34.4
8Punish Illegal Immigrants26.9; 11.5; 0.0; 7.7; 53.8
14Privatize Social Security31.3; 3.1; 9.4; 12.5; 43.8
13Reduce Federal-Owned Lands24.0; 8.0; 24.0; 12.0; 32.0
12Stricter Gun Control22.6; 3.2; 9.7; 16.1; 48.4
7Eliminate the Income Tax16.1; 9.7; 0.0; 6.5; 67.7
11Restrict Abortion22.9; 0.0; 5.7; 20.0; 51.4
3Return to the Gold Standard9.1; 4.5; 4.5; 9.1; 72.7
2Support the Patriot Act4.0; 4.0; 4.0; 12.0; 76.0
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« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2009, 09:24:43 PM »

Lean yes; provided that they're treated the same as non-religious charities, and the religious charities are doing similarly charitable work, without discrimination (and not using the money to evangelize), then I'm fine with it.
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« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2009, 09:28:00 PM »

Lean yes; provided that they're treated the same as non-religious charities, and the religious charities are doing similarly charitable work, without discrimination (and not using the money to evangelize), then I'm fine with it.

     I agree with this statement.
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« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2009, 09:51:24 PM »

Lean yes; provided that they're treated the same as non-religious charities, and the religious charities are doing similarly charitable work, without discrimination (and not using the money to evangelize), then I'm fine with it.

Same here.
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« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2009, 10:03:17 PM »

Lean yes; provided that they're treated the same as non-religious charities, and the religious charities are doing similarly charitable work, without discrimination (and not using the money to evangelize), then I'm fine with it.

I'll third that statement.
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« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2009, 11:50:05 PM »

 Religion.
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« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2009, 12:48:31 AM »


Lean yes; provided that they're treated the same as non-religious charities, and the religious charities are doing similarly charitable work, without discrimination (and not using the money to evangelize), then I'm fine with it.


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« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2009, 02:55:11 AM »

lean no, but I agree with repeated quote.
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« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2009, 03:04:05 AM »

Absolutely not.
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« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2009, 03:35:06 AM »

Yes, I don;t see why charities have to be secular and I think studies show that religious charities have far less overhead cost (meaning far more of every dollar spent, far more of it goes to the people that need it than  secular charities).


I'm a apatheist myself, but if I lived in Africa I'd rather get forty bucks than twenty bucks regardless of who gave it to me
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« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2009, 03:45:08 AM »

Something doesn't sit right with me when we're talking about handing money to religious organizations, be they charities or otherwise, sorry. Also, out of curiosity, is there a religious charity money is going to that isn't Christian/Catholic?
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« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2009, 06:49:11 AM »

If government should fund charities at all, they should do it on a strictly secular basis. Ie; no discrimination against a particular charity because they happen to be religious or not. All that should matter is that they do good work and that they aren't all that corrupt.
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« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2009, 12:30:49 PM »

NO!

Government is meant to be secular, it should stay out of anything with the scent of religion on it.
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« Reply #13 on: February 03, 2009, 04:38:32 PM »

Lean no.  Would be a solid NO, but I want to believe we can find a way to separate taxpayer dollars from proselytizing and political activism. 

I have my doubts, of course...
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« Reply #14 on: February 03, 2009, 06:05:50 PM »

Yes, they provide the same services as non-religious ones.
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« Reply #15 on: February 03, 2009, 08:42:18 PM »

Lean yes; provided that they're treated the same as non-religious charities, and the religious charities are doing similarly charitable work, without discrimination (and not using the money to evangelize), then I'm fine with it.
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« Reply #16 on: February 03, 2009, 08:48:51 PM »

Definitely a "Yes, but..." moment for me.  There are some very good religious charities, and prohibiting them from getting federal money is as stupid as the Republicans' gag rule that banned funding any organization that provided overseas abortions.  Petty social issues should not distract us from the important things.

However, I would have a strong problem with my tax money going to distribute copies of Watchtower to the homeless.
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« Reply #17 on: February 03, 2009, 08:49:33 PM »

Lean yes; provided that they're treated the same as non-religious charities, and the religious charities are doing similarly charitable work, without discrimination (and not using the money to evangelize), then I'm fine with it.
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« Reply #18 on: February 03, 2009, 09:21:15 PM »

I'm a strong yes, qualified however with Lief's caveat. Charities should be judged on the work they do and religious charities should be allowed to compete with secular charities on an equal footing, receiving funding if they provide the best service.
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« Reply #19 on: February 03, 2009, 09:49:40 PM »

I don't think there's any way you can really make sure that this money isn't directly or indirectly supporting efforts to proselytize, the fact that pretty much every single organization Ive heard of receiving money has been a Christian/Catholic organization, and the fact that regulations to check up on these organizations has been... "lax" to say the least over the past few years, there is little to no way I could ever say yes to this.

And sorry, but I don't expect a Republican to uphold strict regulations on money going to religious organizations. Call me crazy.
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