louisiana

[© Tweed the Younger]

It's bad in Louisiana... but it's horrific all over Appalachia

Which is where you...'live'

[Sibboleth]

It's bad in Louisiana... but it's horrific all over Appalachia

Which is where you...'live'

It's similer to where I really live though

[MN-Troy]

John Kerry needs about 95% of the black vote + another 35% of the white vote just to win Louisana.

[MN-Troy]

Current unemployment according to Newsweek 3/1/04
(plus electoral votes)
Ohio 6.0% =20
Colorado 5.8% =9
Tennessee 5.7%=11
Kentucky 5.4%=8
Arkansas 5.5%=6
WV 5.3%=5
NV 4.4% =5

Just truly horrible umemployment numbers for those states.

[classical liberal]

That doesn't even include underemployment.

[MN-Troy]

That doesn't even include underemployment.

How does one determine the number of people underemployed? The Labor Department has no clear cut way to determine the number of underemployed.

Any ideas.

[Sibboleth]

A few examples:

1964 Presidential


1988 Presidential


1996 Presidential


2000 Presidential


2003 Gubernatorial

[© Tweed the Younger]

But Blanco is far more conservative than Edwards or Kerry.

Kerry can piss LA goodbye.

[Sibboleth]

As I said earlier Louisiana is right wing on social issues and left wing on economic issues.
In 2003 what probably sunk Jindal was Blanco's ad attacks over health cutbacks.

[opebo]

Current unemployment according to Newsweek 3/1/04
(plus electoral votes)
Ohio 6.0% =20
Colorado 5.8% =9
Tennessee 5.7%=11
Kentucky 5.4%=8
Arkansas 5.5%=6
WV 5.3%=5
NV 4.4% =5

Just truly horrible umemployment numbers for those states.

No, those numbers are not very bad at all.  Horrible would be around 10% like we had around 1980-82.  Certainly 5% unemployment is actually the sustainable level - can't easily remain much lower than that.

[Sibboleth]

What about Disguised Unemployment and Underemployment?
They are serious problems that affect real people.

[muon2]

Current unemployment according to Newsweek 3/1/04
(plus electoral votes)
Ohio 6.0% =20
Colorado 5.8% =9
Tennessee 5.7%=11
Kentucky 5.4%=8
Arkansas 5.5%=6
WV 5.3%=5
NV 4.4% =5

Just truly horrible umemployment numbers for those states.

No, those numbers are not very bad at all.  Horrible would be around 10% like we had around 1980-82.  Certainly 5% unemployment is actually the sustainable level - can't easily remain much lower than that.

I agree that the overall numbers are not as bad now as they were in the early 80's. The 5% unemployment benchmark is widely used, and many economists noted the problem in the late '90's when the unemployment stayed at sub 4%. This created an unsustainably favorable market for labor, such that the local McDonalds was advertising hourly rates of $9-10/hour.

One unemployment cycle in the past that might compare to the present is the period after the first oil crisis in 1973-4. Like that period, recent years have seen significant unemployment in technical jobs.  At that time the job losses in science and engineering came after the boom in that sector from '59 to '73.

[MN-Troy]

Current unemployment according to Newsweek 3/1/04
(plus electoral votes)
Ohio 6.0% =20
Colorado 5.8% =9
Tennessee 5.7%=11
Kentucky 5.4%=8
Arkansas 5.5%=6
WV 5.3%=5
NV 4.4% =5

Just truly horrible umemployment numbers for those states.

No, those numbers are not very bad at all.  Horrible would be around 10% like we had around 1980-82.  Certainly 5% unemployment is actually the sustainable level - can't easily remain much lower than that.

I was being a little sarcastic:)

[HoopsCubs]

does kerry have a shot at carrying louisiana in november?

No, he does not.  Only Clinton and Carter have won LA in the last 40 years.   But, I think Kerry has a good shot at winning Florida, which goes against most people's thinking on this board, I know, but I feel he will do much better with the Hispanic vote, and specifically the Cuban vote, compared to Al Gore's 48% in 2000.  It's just my opinion.  I'm also not throwing in the towel regarding West Virginia and Nevada.