Federal Election Tracker (FINAL RESULT)

[GMantis]

Absolutely. Remember what office he's currently holding.

And this is why people think Atlasia is dead! People not caring about activity at all while complaining the system is dead.

True. Look what JCP zombie voters are doing! Reelecting a president who did nothing and electing a senator who know nothing about Atlasia.

Do you mean me?

[Hash]

Absolutely. Remember what office he's currently holding.

And this is why people think Atlasia is dead! People not caring about activity at all while complaining the system is dead.

True. Look what JCP zombie voters are doing! Reelecting a president who did nothing and electing a senator who know nothing about Atlasia.

Do you mean me?

He means realisticidealist, the JCP's candidate in the Pacific.

[ilikeverin]

It would be nice if more people would start declaring before the deadline, though. We always have an awful lot of write-ins.

It would be nice if the declaration deadline were mentioned openly and/or said deadline were moved back

[minionofmidas]

Um. Apparently Eraserhead is registered in Montana. My bad. Can he still be Northeast Senator if he wins or what?

     I think that if he moves to the Northeast in time to swear in it's not a problem, though that would need to be looked into.

No legally relevant difference between his situation and MasterJedi's, anyhow. Meaning that either candidate is ineligible under the Candidate Regulations, it's just that we haven't a clue whether the SoFA will obey them or what courts will say about the issue if his decision is challenged.
(Obviously, if he doesn't move then he's ineligible. Oh yeah, I need to look up the verdict in that one Sam Spade case, that might indirectly touch on the issue as well.)

     I noticed that too. However, a write-in candidate can declare any time up until the end of voting. The question would be when must a write-in candidate meet the requirements for eligibility according to the candidate regulations?

According to the Candidate Regulations, at the declaration deadline. But they're only regulations issued by a government agency. And (other, less important) parts of them have been ignored for a long time.

[MasterJedi]

The question I have, would I be able to vote for myself in the runnoff with GMantis?

[Franzl]

The question I have, would I be able to vote for myself in the runnoff with GMantis?

Yes, I believe so.

Legally speaking, I'd consider it a different election, and you'll have been in the Midwest for a long enough time by the time that election starts to be eligible to vote.

[bgwah]

I find it interesting that Realisticidealist is too new to be a Senator, but the SDP didn't have a problem supporting Eraserhead. Who almost won, but failed to make the run-off since he didn't actually live in the region. Some stunning hypocrisy here. Realistic has shown more of an interest in Atlasia than Eraserhead. He first got invovled in Atlasia with out being asked by me. The party he first involved himself with collapsed and I saw someone who I thought fit my party well--someone who was interested in the game. I approached him asking him if he would be interested in running for the Senate as the JCP candidate. He may have otherwise lost interest in Atlasia in disappeared, but no, a new person is still playing the game. What's so wrong with this? Is MaxQue throwing a hissy fit because he didn't get to run unopposed?

Here is a simple fact many of you are ignoring: I campaigned. I PMed people I thought might vote for me and asked them to consider my ticket. I told them I would be more than happy to answer any questions if they needed some convincing. Did any other candidates do this? I doubt many if any did, aside from similarly attacked DWDL. I didn't even ask Phil to vote for me--he just did--and I must say I find it preposterous that someone who served as President eight  months ago is somehow unqualified to vote.

And I don't just campaign exclusively for myself. I take it upon myself as party chairman to support my party's candidates.

Sorry to sound harsh, but some of you are really being sore losers. I hope we can get over any hard feelings and work together in the coming months to better Atlasia.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Here is a simple fact many of you are ignoring: I campaigned. I PMed people I thought might vote for me and asked them to consider my ticket. I told them I would be more than happy to answer any questions if they needed some convincing.

Which is, of course, the way you've always done things (and how I did things as well, as it happens), though you should get why it looks mysterious to people who've not been here so long. There is a certain element of a culture clash here, I think.

[Marokai Backbeat]

I find it interesting that Realisticidealist is too new to be a Senator, but the SDP didn't have a problem supporting Eraserhead. Who almost won, but failed to make the run-off since he didn't actually live in the region. Some stunning hypocrisy here. Realistic has shown more of an interest in Atlasia than Eraserhead. He first got invovled in Atlasia with out being asked by me. The party he first involved himself with collapsed and I saw someone who I thought fit my party well--someone who was interested in the game. I approached him asking him if he would be interested in running for the Senate as the JCP candidate. He may have otherwise lost interest in Atlasia in disappeared, but no, a new person is still playing the game. What's so wrong with this? Is MaxQue throwing a hissy fit because he didn't get to run unopposed?

Here is a simple fact many of you are ignoring: I campaigned. I PMed people I thought might vote for me and asked them to consider my ticket. I told them I would be more than happy to answer any questions if they needed some convincing. Did any other candidates do this? I doubt many if any did, aside from similarly attacked DWDL. I didn't even ask Phil to vote for me--he just did--and I must say I find it preposterous that someone who served as President eight  months ago is somehow unqualified to vote.

And I don't just campaign exclusively for myself. I take it upon myself as party chairman to support my party's candidates.

Sorry to sound harsh, but some of you are really being sore losers. I hope we can get over any hard feelings and work together in the coming months to better Atlasia.

I see your point, Bgwah, and I understand. I'm not holding you at fault for all the zombies, but it seems as if the JCP is full of them. Where were the JCP members in the runup to my bid for Lt. Governor several months ago? Nowhere, not until election day and a campaign for Alcon suddenly sparked up and elected him sweepingly, and after Alcon became Lt. Governor (Didn't he resign as Governor at one point?) for the fourth time he's posted only twice in the legislature, only one was anything of substance.

Now in the Pacific's Regional Senate seat race, where were the JCP members? Certainly none in the poll NCYankee ran. And who did you run? You ran an Atlasian newbie who was previously a right-hand-man for Ogis in a troll party. Are we sore losers? Maybe. But I know Max is qualified for more than where he is now, he's a dedicated and active member of Atlasia and has been for a good long while and he deserves more than the 'JCP Candidate To Be Determined' does. Max isn't throwing a hissy fit because he didn't run unopposed, we're upset because he ran against a JCP nobody who was elected by people who barely had a grasp on anything concerning Atlasia. (Whenever they bothered to show their faces.)

Has PBrunsel done anything lately? Has Phil posted even three times (aside from the last couple days) in the Fantasy Elections board since we came into a new year? Has BRTD done anything, ever? What about phknrocket1k? Sensei? Opebo? Lunar? Volksliberalist? I didn't even know half these people were registered until they voted!

I'm not blaming you for this, I hardly consider you the person at fault for this, but the fact is zombies have infiltrated every election and thrown it away from people that deserve it. Your Vice President doesn't even deserve to be on the ticket considering how much the senators have had to fight to get his attention on legislation. And no, I'm not saying Andrew was the epitome of activity, but I would have rather had something different rather than just casting my vote for the same thing. (Though admittedly I 2nd pref'd you).

I don't like being angry, I don't like being bitter, I don't like being partisan here in Atlasia. But Max is one of the most dedicated members of my party and one of the most active here in Atlasia, and he's most certainly not a sore loser throwing a hissy fit.

Edit: Afleitch was right, it's not about positions, its not about governing, its not about being active or even proposing anything. It's about getting as many zombies on your team as possible, it's about getting the herd to the polls to elect you (not you specifically) and nothing more. If we had stricter activity requirements we wouldn't be in such a deep pile of the undead, but something tells me half the JCP would disappear if we actually started ramping up posting requirements.

[bgwah]

I see your point, Bgwah, and I understand. I'm not holding you at fault for all the zombies, but it seems as if the JCP is full of them. Where were the JCP members in the runup to my bid for Lt. Governor several months ago? Nowhere, not until election day and a campaign for Alcon suddenly sparked up and elected him sweepingly, and after Alcon became Lt. Governor (Didn't he resign as Governor at one point?) for the fourth time he's posted only twice in the legislature, only one was anything of substance.

Now in the Pacific's Regional Senate seat race, where were the JCP members? Certainly none in the poll NCYankee ran.

Even I didn't vote in that poll. What was the point? Not to mention the awful public format.

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If what you were saying is true, then Torie would have never won. JCP members do pay attention and they don't always vote for the JCP candidate.

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I did not ask Phil to vote for me. He found the voting booth on his own and decided to vote for me. Someone who doesn't pay any attention to Atlasia would not have done that on their own. Furthermore, I again must state how ridiculous I find your "activity" definition. Being President as recently as eight months ago is inactive? All I can say to that is "whatever." Neither of them are JCP, either.

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BRTD has done lots. He was Mideast Senator most recently. Rocket, no. Sensei was definitely an active member within the past year (didn't ask him to vote for me either, nor is he JCP). Opebo serves on the Supreme Court (and has voted for Xahar over the JCP candidate in the past). Lunar has definitely been posting in the Atlasian sections quite a bit lately, and I'm surprised you included him here. Volksliberalist is again, not a JCP member, nor did I contact him, though I of course am grateful for his support.

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Aside from Ogis, Max only got two votes. Even with your ultra-strict definition of activity, he would have lost to Realisticidealist by at least a 2-to-1 margin.

Did Max ever contact any of us and ask us for our support? I sure never received any PMs. He didn't even try. Torie and Xahar reached out to JCP members with some success--you simply demonize us and whine.

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And you would reduce Atlasia to about a dozen or so people. Talk about a nail in the coffin.

I also noticed you skipped the Eraserhead part of my post. Why is it only okay when your party supports a newbie?

[RI]

I find it interesting that Realisticidealist is too new to be a Senator, but the SDP didn't have a problem supporting Eraserhead. Who almost won, but failed to make the run-off since he didn't actually live in the region. Some stunning hypocrisy here. Realistic has shown more of an interest in Atlasia than Eraserhead. He first got invovled in Atlasia with out being asked by me. The party he first involved himself with collapsed and I saw someone who I thought fit my party well--someone who was interested in the game. I approached him asking him if he would be interested in running for the Senate as the JCP candidate. He may have otherwise lost interest in Atlasia in disappeared, but no, a new person is still playing the game. What's so wrong with this? Is MaxQue throwing a hissy fit because he didn't get to run unopposed?

Here is a simple fact many of you are ignoring: I campaigned. I PMed people I thought might vote for me and asked them to consider my ticket. I told them I would be more than happy to answer any questions if they needed some convincing. Did any other candidates do this? I doubt many if any did, aside from similarly attacked DWDL. I didn't even ask Phil to vote for me--he just did--and I must say I find it preposterous that someone who served as President eight  months ago is somehow unqualified to vote.

And I don't just campaign exclusively for myself. I take it upon myself as party chairman to support my party's candidates.

Sorry to sound harsh, but some of you are really being sore losers. I hope we can get over any hard feelings and work together in the coming months to better Atlasia.

I see your point, Bgwah, and I understand. I'm not holding you at fault for all the zombies, but it seems as if the JCP is full of them. Where were the JCP members in the runup to my bid for Lt. Governor several months ago? Nowhere, not until election day and a campaign for Alcon suddenly sparked up and elected him sweepingly, and after Alcon became Lt. Governor (Didn't he resign as Governor at one point?) for the fourth time he's posted only twice in the legislature, only one was anything of substance.

Now in the Pacific's Regional Senate seat race, where were the JCP members? Certainly none in the poll NCYankee ran. And who did you run? You ran an Atlasian newbie who was previously a right-hand-man for Ogis in a troll party. Are we sore losers? Maybe. But I know Max is qualified for more than where he is now, he's a dedicated and active member of Atlasia and has been for a good long while and he deserves more than the 'JCP Candidate To Be Determined' does. Max isn't throwing a hissy fit because he didn't run unopposed, we're upset because he ran against a JCP nobody who was elected by people who barely had a grasp on anything concerning Atlasia. (Whenever they bothered to show their faces.)

Has PBrunsel done anything lately? Has Phil posted even three times (aside from the last couple days) in the Fantasy Elections board since we came into a new year? Has BRTD done anything, ever? What about phknrocket1k? Sensei? Opebo? Lunar? Volksliberalist? I didn't even know half these people were registered until they voted!

I'm not blaming you for this, I hardly consider you the person at fault for this, but the fact is zombies have infiltrated every election and thrown it away from people that deserve it. Your Vice President doesn't even deserve to be on the ticket considering how much the senators have had to fight to get his attention on legislation. And no, I'm not saying Andrew was the epitome of activity, but I would have rather had something different rather than just casting my vote for the same thing. (Though admittedly I 2nd pref'd you).

I don't like being angry, I don't like being bitter, I don't like being partisan here in Atlasia. But Max is one of the most dedicated members of my party and one of the most active here in Atlasia, and he's most certainly not a sore loser throwing a hissy fit.

Edit: Afleitch was right, it's not about positions, its not about governing, its not about being active or even proposing anything. It's about getting as many zombies on your team as possible, it's about getting the herd to the polls to elect you (not you specifically) and nothing more. If we had stricter activity requirements we wouldn't be in such a deep pile of the undead, but something tells me half the JCP would disappear if we actually started ramping up posting requirements.

I certainly empathize with you. I think that Atlasia would be much better served with increased activity requirements, amongst other things.

That said, the flaw is the system, not those who have used it to the best of their ability. I personally am committed to doing what is best for Atlasia, even at the expense of my party and myself. I am more than willing to work with anyone in the Senate and the other branches for my term, but the name calling and ad hominem's have to stop.

[MaxQue]

Did Max ever contact any of us and ask us for our support? I sure never received any PMs. He didn't even try. Torie and Xahar reached out to JCP members with some success--you simply demonize us and whine.

Last time I tried, I received a answer who was like ''Get in the JCP if you want to get elected''. Perhaps I wrote to the bad persons. I should have followed my first idea to write to everybody.

[ilikeverin]

I campaigned publically, thank you very much.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Has BRTD done anything, ever?

Uh, yeah. I'm a former two-term Senator.

[Marokai Backbeat]

Has BRTD done anything, ever?

Uh, yeah. I'm a former two-term Senator.

From when, exactly, and have you done anything since? It's difficult to tell since the Wiki is wildly inaccurate.

Also, to Bgwah, if I posted only twice from now to Halloween, am I an active member?

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Has BRTD done anything, ever?

Uh, yeah. I'm a former two-term Senator.

From when, exactly, and have you done anything since? It's difficult to tell since the Wiki is wildly inaccurate.

Also, to Bgwah, if I posted only twice from now to Halloween, am I an active member?

From the end of 2006 to mid-2007.

[DownWithTheLeft]

I must say, I am throughly pleased that the Pacific bumped Xahar's puppet in favor of Realisticidealist, but I couldn't believe what a spanking it was

[GMantis]

I must say, I am throughly pleased that the Pacific bumped Xahar's puppet in favor of Realisticidealist, but I couldn't believe what a spanking it was

Do you want to be seen as an idiot, or are you really one?

[DownWithTheLeft]

I must say, I am throughly pleased that the Pacific bumped Xahar's puppet in favor of Realisticidealist, but I couldn't believe what a spanking it was

Do you want to be seen as an idiot, or are you really one?

My bad, I forgot to include that the Midwest also has a choice between a respected former senator and a Xahar puppet

[GMantis]

I must say, I am throughly pleased that the Pacific bumped Xahar's puppet in favor of Realisticidealist, but I couldn't believe what a spanking it was

Do you want to be seen as an idiot, or are you really one?

My bad, I forgot to include that the Midwest also has a choice between a respected former senator and a Xahar puppet

Ah yes, Superhero Xahar. Can teleport to Quebec and Bulgaria, but can't cover up his hacking.
Seriously, do you use the word puppet as an insult or do you really mean these stupid accusations?

[MaxQue]

I must say, I am throughly pleased that the Pacific bumped Xahar's puppet in favor of Realisticidealist, but I couldn't believe what a spanking it was

Do you want to be seen as an idiot, or are you really one?

My bad, I forgot to include that the Midwest also has a choice between a respected former senator and a Xahar puppet

Down, stop saying stupidities, please.

[DownWithTheLeft]

I must say, I am throughly pleased that the Pacific bumped Xahar's puppet in favor of Realisticidealist, but I couldn't believe what a spanking it was

Do you want to be seen as an idiot, or are you really one?

My bad, I forgot to include that the Midwest also has a choice between a respected former senator and a Xahar puppet

Ah yes, Superhero Xahar. Can teleport to Quebec and Bulgaria, but can't cover up his hacking.
Seriously, do you use the word puppet as an insult or do you really mean these stupid accusations?

I do not mean he literally has you as a puppet, but rather he is still controlling you

[Eraserhead]

I was robbed, I tellz ya.

[MaxQue]

I must say, I am throughly pleased that the Pacific bumped Xahar's puppet in favor of Realisticidealist, but I couldn't believe what a spanking it was

Do you want to be seen as an idiot, or are you really one?

My bad, I forgot to include that the Midwest also has a choice between a respected former senator and a Xahar puppet

Ah yes, Superhero Xahar. Can teleport to Quebec and Bulgaria, but can't cover up his hacking.
Seriously, do you use the word puppet as an insult or do you really mean these stupid accusations?

I do not mean he literally has you as a puppet, but rather he is still controlling you

I didn't have contacts with Xahar since he was prosecuted.

[minionofmidas]

Hilariously, the election still has not been certified. Will the runoff voting booth be opened at all? And how will the SoFA rule on the validity of votes for Jedi and Eraserhead? Stay tuned...

(There'd be a runoff even if Jedi is considered ineligible. The only difference is that it's a Gmantis vs Cash runoff:

1st count:
Cash 3 (Cash, Jas, BRTD)
GMantis 3 (Lewis, Sensei, Verin)
Lewis 2 (Gmantis, Gustaf)
dead0man 2 (dead0man, PBrunsel)
exhausted 1 (Speedy)

I didn't do a count on whether dead0 or me goes first - it doesn't matter, as neither picks up pref.s from the other.

3nd count:
Cash 4 (Cash, Jas, BRTD, Gustaf)
GMantis 4 (Lewis, Sensei, Verin, GMantis)
exhausted 3 (dead0man, PBrunsel, Speedy)